Gays and Lesbians (GLBT) versus Christians

[sidhe]

Just incase you didn't realise... Sidhe was joking.

I have serious concerns about the mental health of anyone who thinks that the question "What's the best camera angle for tribadism?" would actually be seriously asked at a wedding.

I, BTW, offer myself up to be defined by my sex acts. Please PM me for a full list.

 

[WhatThe]

"Lie down and think of England"
Hahaha

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Exactly, good post.

If we defined people by their sex acts we'd have some far more "graphic" names than hetrosexual and homosexual.

Why hide from reality? The Bible doesn't.

personally I'm a pretty big fan of tribidism

Psst, that comes as no suprise.

 

[WhatThe]

Polycarp, why is it that you always read a post and then make it out to mean the total opposite?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

"This may be the worst thing I've ever heard. How wonderful." - Count Rugen

So, I guess we can safely guess that heterosexuals are defined by their unrelenting lust for the opposite gender? That the act of inserting a penis into a vagina is exactly what defines someone as heterosexual?

Heterosexual is a recent word on the world stage. It defines sexuality. Otherwise it was just considered normality for all of the other history.

Seriously, people say things that show that the LGBT community is defined by something beyond sex, and it's people who insist the sex is disgusting who keep bringing it up. It's much easier to demonize something you think of only as a sex act than an actual person, isn't it?

The G and the L and B all denote sexual proclivity.

So, are heterosexuals defined by the missionary position? Lie down and think of England?

The missionary position was taught to induce a more human way of "making love." In the tribal people that missioanries encountered, the men only procreated in one position, leaving the woman little more than just bearing the time interval from start to finish of the man. The Christians were trying to introduce enjoyment, joy and fulfillment to married couples. Even in pagan peoples. Many missionaries were from England. Now, I think it is Korea that has more missionaries out in the world evanglizing than any other counrty.

 

[WhatThe]

Because he's a liar.

That's putting it mildly.

 

[WhatThe]

The G and the L and B all denote sexual proclivity.

Main Entry: 1ho·mo·sex·u·al Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\ Function: adjective
1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex


The desire or attraction is the defining factor, not the act. As it is with heterosexuals.

 

[WarEagle]

Why should they just “move on”?
If a grocery store refused the business of a black woman just because she was black would you be supporting the grocery store and telling the woman to just “move on”?
If an auto insurer refused the business of a Muslim just because of her religion would you be cheering the insurance agent and telling the woman to just “move on”?
If a restaurant refused the business of a paralyzed veteran just because he was in a wheel chair would you be defending the restaurant and telling the veteran to just “move on”?

Yes.

These photographers chose to discriminate against a minority just because they were a minority.

If they refused business to a black couple it would be discrimination
If they refused business to an interracial couple it would be discrimination
If they refused business to a Jewish couple it would be discrimination
If they refused business to a Muslim couple it would be discrimination
If they refused business to a handicapped couple it would be discrimination

Do you believe that all discrimination is bad?

Just because they chose to discriminate against a same gendered couple doesn’t magically change the hatred they engaged in into love

From what I understand, she was very respectful about it, not hateful.

The photographers chose to discriminate and they broke the law and were dealt with just as if they discriminated based on skin color.

Right! Because discriminating against someone because you don't like their skin color is exactly the same as not wanting to appear to endorse behavior that violates your conscience and the teachings of your religion.

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Because he's a liar.

Originally Posted by WhatThe

Polycarp, why is it that you always read a post and then make it out to mean the total opposite?
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S-I,

Is the big bad bully still pouting that he can't bully every Christian that enters this place? Your vitriol is so common.

 

[selfinflikted]

Originally Posted by WhatThe

Polycarp, why is it that you always read a post and then make it out to mean the total opposite?
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S-I,

Is the big bad bully still pouting that he can't bully every Christian that enters this place? Your vitriol is so common.

lol.

The only bully here is you, and the only vitriol is your own - it's just so ironic that you can't see that. Your little quips do absolutely for you, either.

 

[wanderingone]

The missionary position was taught to induce a more human way of "making love." In the tribal people that missioanries encountered, the men only procreated in one position, leaving the woman little more than just bearing the time interval from start to finish of the man. The Christians were trying to introduce enjoyment, joy and fulfillment to married couples. Even in pagan peoples. Many missionaries were from England. Now, I think it is Korea that has more missionaries out in the world evanglizing than any other counrty.

The missionaries observed that not everyone did things the way they did. I doubt any discussion about the right or wrong way to have sex was based on the pleasure of the female. The missionary position is not the perfect position for women when it comes to sexual pleasure and [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]; which means if the missionaries actually "introduced" anything (rather than being observed by the folks they were preaching to) they just introduced a position that may or may not have been pleasurable to individual couples.

Besides if marriage is all about potential procreation who cares if there's enjoyment or not?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Main Entry: 1ho·mo·sex·u·al Pronunciation: \ˌhō-mə-ˈsek-sh(ə-)wəl, -ˈsek-shəl\ Function: adjective
1 : of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex

The desire or attraction is the defining factor, not the act. As it is with heterosexuals.

Then, teaching that GLB and T's, can give up deviant sexual practices when they become Christians isn't a bad "idea" after all. I take your attempt at promoting gay culture doesn't mean gay sex as something to ponder. I always thought that homosexuals didn't "have to" engage in same-gender sex acts. It's enlightening dealing with you. I guess me being called a liar by some bullies here, shatters the accusation on the face of it.

Thanks. I'll sleep so much better now knowimg that it is not hate, bigotry or a phobia to teach that sex doesn't have to define a GLBT. Now we can get on to evangelizing "even" the Gay community without having to worry about them attacking us for doing so. After all, there is no sin or sinner where denial of sin is engaged in.

 

[selfinflikted]

The missionaries observed that not everyone did things the way they did. I doubt any discussion about the right or wrong way to have sex was based on the pleasure of the female. The missionary position is not the perfect position for women when it comes to sexual pleasure and [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]; which means if the missionaries actually "introduced" anything (rather than being observed by the folks they were preaching to) they just introduced a position that may or may not have been pleasurable to individual couples.

Besides if marriage is all about potential procreation who cares if there's enjoyment or not?

I was always under the impression that the missionary position just asserted and reinforced a man's dominance over a woman.

 

[wanderingone]

Heterosexual is a recent word on the world stage. It defines sexuality. Otherwise it was just considered normality for all of the other history.

homosexual and heterosexual have the same etymology. In English common law ANY sexual act not engaged in purely for procreation was considered perverse (included heterosexual sex for pleasure)

 

[wanderingone]

I was always under the impression that the missionary position just asserted and reinforced a man's dominance over a woman.

That would be my opinion as well.--- most people happily copulated like animals until told how terrible it was......

 

[WhatThe]

Then, teaching that GLB and T's, can give up deviant sexual practices when they become Christians isn't a bad "idea" after all. I take your attempt at promoting gay culture doesn't mean gay sex as something to ponder. I always thought that homosexuals didn't "have to" engage in same-gender sex acts. It's enlightening dealing with you. I guess me being called a liar by some bullies here, shatters the accusation on the face of it.

Thanks. I'll sleep so much better now knowimg that it is not hate, bigotry or a phobia to teach that sex doesn't have to define a GLBT. Now we can get on to evangelizing "even" the Gay community without having to worry about them attacking us for doing so. After all, there is no sin or sinner where denial of sin is engaged in.

As someone wrote on another post, i could never have sexual relations again, but i would still be gay. You could never have sex again, but you would still be straight.
You believe homosexual sex is a sin, fine, don't have homosexual sex. Easy fixed. However, not everyone believes the same as you, so not everyone percieves it to be a sin. Preach all you like. Preaching only becomes a problem when you a) start getting nasty, b) keep on preaching even when the person you're preaching to has made it clear that they aren't interested, or c) when you use your beliefs to try and make laws that limit the rights of others.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I was always under the impression that the missionary position just asserted and reinforced a man's dominance over a woman.

Sometimes first impressions are wrong. And the second and the third and so on. That is why Christians are taught to "test all things" and hold firmly onto the truth.

Hubba-hubba.

Now how about back to the "OP" ?????

I believe the answer to the OP was

yes.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

You've completely lost me with this infantile tirade. What are you even talking about?

"I" was never searching for you in the first place. When you arrived, I did indeed try to lose you.

You just try to dodge, insult and set traps. That is all that I mean. Calling me a liar is your last fultile attempts at inflicting some kind of hurt.

I am reminded of Polycarp on that.

"Is THAT all you got?"

Now, my dear adversary, how about the OP?

 

[HaloHope]

Why hide from reality? The Bible doesn't.

Yes because the Bible calls most people "penis to vagina sex havers"? *boggle* . If your referring to the word "Sodomite" though, surely if we are to take the Bible literally and refer to Ezekiel a Sodomite would be a inhospitable person.

Psst, that comes as no suprise.

I should think not, seeing as as Ive said im homosexual and sexually active (two seperate things you see) on a number of occasions. Not all gay women are into tribidism as was said by cantata, but it shoudlnt be that surprising.

I just happen to hold the view that sex is far better when a penis isnt involved.

 

[wanderingone]

Sometimes first impressions are wrong. And the second and the third and so on. That is why Christians are taught to "test all things" and hold firmly onto the truth.

Hubba-hubba.

Now how about back to the "OP" ?????

I believe the answer to the OP was

yes.

So you tested the missionary position and discored it to be the truth?