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The New Deal

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I consider the New Deal to be as important to the history of our country and the rights we take for granted as the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. And yet, very rarely do politicians appeal to the New Deal, aside from Dennis Kucinich and some others. Why is that?
 

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...as important as the constitution...

^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

Nice.

When you consider the impact the New Deal had on economic policy, the claim that it's as important as the Constitution is not as far-fetched as it might appear. Roosevelt's policies altered the economic equation in far-reaching, profound ways.
 
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Social security is stupid...
Unions are stupid...
Regulation is stupid...
The New Deal is stupid...
Roosevelt is evil....

Social security was just a secret tax... you got it at 60 back then and you were most likely to die at around 58...

Someone here hates America...
 
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Someone here hates America...

So America is a handout? Do we just give out America? The founding fathers were against hand outs and regulation of the economy. I'm the one being a true American unlike you leftist who undermine capitalism.
 
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So America is a handout? Do we just give out America? The founding fathers were against hand outs and regulation of the economy. I'm the one being a true American unlike you leftist who undermine capitalism.

Hehe! Harupia hates lefties these days..

All I've heard him say is he greatly dislikes lefties..so I wouldn't say he's anything but a conservative. :p
 
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So America is a handout? Do we just give out America? The founding fathers were against hand outs and regulation of the economy. I'm the one being a true American unlike you leftist who undermine capitalism.

When you have an economy where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer? Smells like imperial communism more than a Democracy. Those things were necessary to get us on the right track.

It's one of quite a few things I as a CONSERVATIVE believe the liberals have done right (but have poor followthrough 60 years later, oh my!). People like you just want the poor to get poorer and give up on the American dream. People like you are traitors to America.

Traitor.
 
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When you have an economy where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer? Smells like imperial communism more than a Democracy. Those things were necessary to get us on the right track.

It's one of quite a few things I as a CONSERVATIVE believe the liberals have done right (but have poor followthrough 60 years later, oh my!). People like you just want the poor to get poorer and give up on the American dream. People like you are traitors to America.

Traitor.

Conservative? You not conservative, because Conservatives are smart and you called America Democracy, which we are not a Democracy, we are a Democratically Elected Constitutional REPUBLIC. If the poor are getting poorer, why do they still have money to spend, maybe you don't understand, but if companies are still getting high profits and somehow people don't got money to spend? Anyways there has been studies that show that poverty for very many years is self inflicted stupidity and most people who are considered in poverty move up to the top 3/5ths by 20 years.
 
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Conservative? You not conservative, because Conservatives are smart and you called America Democracy, which we are not a Democracy, we are a Democratically Elected Constitutional REPUBLIC. If the poor are getting poorer, why do they still have money to spend, maybe you don't understand, but if companies are still getting high profits and somehow people don't got money to spend? Anyways there has been studies that show that poverty for very many years is self inflicted stupidity and most people who are considered in poverty move up to the top 3/5ths by 20 years.

You're the type of person who will want the poor to spend until they are bankrupt, so the rich can rake in on the profit.

Half the statistics you make are completely made by the Institute of God Guns And Glory.

When people rack up on debts, when an entire third of America is bankrupt because people like you believe that as long as they have money to spend, even if it's coming out of the last bits of maxing out their credit card when everything goes up but their wages, we should leave them alone...

...Heck, when you get out and actually get a job, you'll know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
 
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Alexander Hamilton would like to have a word with you.

I'm a anti-Federalist and its good to see a Dem admitting the Democrat party we see today is the Federalist and not he Democratic-Republicans.

You're the type of person who will want the poor to spend until they are bankrupt, so the rich can rake in on the profit.

Half the statistics you make are completely made by the Institute of God Guns And Glory.

When people rack up on debts, when an entire third of America is bankrupt because people like you believe that as long as they have money to spend, even if it's coming out of the last bits of maxing out their credit card when everything goes up but their wages, we should leave them alone...

...Heck, when you get out and actually get a job, you'll know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

So if people are maxing out their Credit Cards for things they don't need, its my fault? My family has a saying that if you can't buy it right now don't get it at all...

We remark with special satisfaction those [favorable circumstances] which, under the smiles of Providence, result from the skill, industry and order of our citizens managing their own affairs in their own way and for their own use, unembarrassed by too much regulations, unoppressed by fiscal exactions." --Thomas Jefferson
 
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So if people are maxing out their Credit Cards for things they don't need, its my fault? My family has a saying that if you can't buy it right now don't get it at all...

We remark with special satisfaction those [favorable circumstances] which, under the smiles of Providence, result from the skill, industry and order of our citizens managing their own affairs in their own way and for their own use, unembarrassed by too much regulations, unoppressed by fiscal exactions." --Thomas Jefferson

I said for those that don't deserve it. That are using it to pay for NECESSITIES. I know someone who is struggling just to do that now. Just recently had to go into debt because food prices have skyrocketed.

I don't know where you live, but it sounds like you're one of those rich Evangelicals who prey on people like that, then blame it on them when they don't deserve it.

If you're working two jobs and still can't pay for food, water and shelter, while CEOs rake in record profits year after year, something isn't right.
 
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I said for those that don't deserve it. That are using it to pay for NECESSITIES. I know someone who is struggling just to do that now. Just recently had to go into debt because food prices have skyrocketed.

I don't know where you live, but it sounds like you're one of those rich Evangelicals who prey on people like that, then blame it on them when they don't deserve it.

If you're working two jobs and still can't pay for food, water and shelter, while CEOs rake in record profits year after year, something isn't right.

Prove anything you just said. Have you ever heard of the Sticks? One of the poorest areas in America and its also very Conservative... weird ain't it?
 
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Prove anything you just said. Have you ever heard of the Sticks? One of the poorest areas in America and its also very Conservative... weird ain't it?

Liberalism is often found in more densely populated and often higher educated areas. The sticks is very rural and often where the less educated are found, also where more conservatives are incidentally found. Liberals are progressive and conservatives tend to be stuck in their ways, also corresponds to geographical location.
 
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Prove anything you just said. Have you ever heard of the Sticks? One of the poorest areas in America and its also very Conservative... weird ain't it?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23637018/

http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080416/NRSTAFF/513488403/-1/news

http://askville.amazon.com/cost-food-rising-Americans-back-farming/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=9588711

And just because you're poor and conservative doesn't mean that you can't not understand how people feel.

I still say you're some troll from Europe who picked up the latest U.S. Conservatives for Dummies book, took the most offensive parts of it, turned it into a character, and is living it out right now, doing it for the lulz.

Of course, prove me wrong. I'll find out in the morning.
 
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I'm a anti-Federalist and its good to see a Dem admitting the Democrat party we see today is the Federalist and not he Democratic-Republicans.

You just realized that anti-Federalist means you are against the Constitution, right? Not to mention it was Alexander Hamilton who ended up being the one who defended the Constitution, and whose writings are regarded as some of the most important in legal history in that area.
 
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Prove anything you just said. Have you ever heard of the Sticks? One of the poorest areas in America and its also very Conservative... weird ain't it?

You do realize most rural areas are generally more liberal then conservative when it comes to economics, right? They vote Republican due to social issues mostly. Economically they generally go far more regulation and populist slogans. There is a reason why Republicans like Mike Huckabee are despised by groups like Cato Institute.
 
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Social security is stupid...
Unions are stupid...
Regulation is stupid...
The New Deal is stupid...
Roosevelt is evil....

Social security was just a secret tax... you got it at 60 back then and you were most likely to die at around 58...

So you would rather America had just stuck with lassiez-faire capitalism until the wealth imbalance got so great that the poor revolted and we ended up the People's Republic of America?
 
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