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This is off the subject, Jamie, but how old do I say this universe is? (Please answer this.)
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This is off the subject, Jamie, but how old do I say this universe is? (Please answer this.)
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You know, all of your threads really come down to you asking us to assume you are right and then asking us how you can be wrong if we assume you right.
It's completely meaningless as we don't accept your assumption that the bible is literally correct.
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[serious];45952048 said:
Then assume I'm wrong, [serious], and see if the answer is any different.
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I thought you understood that last thursdayism meant a point in time BEFORE this very instant but AFTER the time when the universe appears to have been created? Why are we back here?
Wait, we can now assume you are wrong? Great, I'll have this solved in a second!
In response to the challenge:
Explain Last Thursdayism without violating the literal interpretation of Genesis 5:5.
[bible]Genesis 5:5[/bible]
The answer is simple.
When the world was made last Thursday, it was made to contain a book that had an embedded age of several thousand years (depending what part of it you are talking about), and this book made the claim that a person named Adam had lived for 930 years. And, when the world was made last thursday, there was made the remains of a man named Adam who had lived for 930 years. Any ages needed were embedded.
An alternative answer is that your position that genesis 5:5 is a true factual account is wrong. it is, at best, a metaphorical account.
problem solved.
Wait, we can now assume you are wrong? Great, I'll have this solved in a second!
In response to the challenge:
Explain Last Thursdayism without violating the literal interpretation of Genesis 5:5.
[bible]Genesis 5:5[/bible]
The answer is simple.
When the world was made last Thursday, it was made to contain a book that had an embedded age of several thousand years (depending what part of it you are talking about), and this book made the claim that a person named Adam had lived for 930 years. And, when the world was made last thursday, there was made the remains of a man named Adam who had lived for 930 years. Any ages needed were embedded.
An alternative answer is that your position that genesis 5:5 is a true factual account is wrong. it is, at best, a metaphorical account.
problem solved.
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Because I'm using the original (?) definition of Last Thursdayism. The old, outdated one from many (?) goalposts ago.
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jamielindas
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I'm assuming from your many statements on physical evidence that you take a literal interpretation of the bible and thus believe it to be less than 10,000 years old.
I apologize if this isn't correct.
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I have the burden of showing absolutely nothing.
5 days ago?? I do not see why that should be the case. Especially if Gen 5:5 talks about 930 years.
Last Thursday. That is all what is needed. The 930+ years only clash with last Thursday if you assume uniformitarianism, and that, as far as I gather from your spirit filled literalist brethren, is a big no-no when it comes to a literalist interpretation of the bible.
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jamielindas
When given the option, choose love and compassion
The goalposts never moved, YOU misunderstood what LTism is intended to demonstrate. If you had actually used it's proper name, the Omphalos theory/hypothesis, you wouldn't have made that mistake. We forgive you.
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So I read this thread and I also have been reading the uncommon descent threads for the last two weeks. And there is a common theme. Creationist is wrong. People point this out to creationist. Creationist cannot in any way admit or even accept that he is wrong. Anyone else notice this too?
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It was the 2nd definition --- the current one that I didn't know existed --- that I misunderstood --- not the one in my OP.
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Apology accepted ---
See, that's what normal, intelligent humans do when they get something wrong: they say "oh, sorry, I got that wrong". They don't blame everyone else for their own lack of understanding. Try it sometime.
But anyway, perhaps you'd now be good enough to tell us how old (at least a little more specifically than > 10k yrs) the earth is in your cosmology, and how an Earth older than 10k years fits with a literal reading of the Bible. Feel free to point to other posts or articles if this has been covered succinctly in the past. Thanks in advance.
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