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My Omphalos Challenge
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Oh, I know what you said. But something you said has to be wrong, logically speaking.
Here's a simpler way of looking at it without getting into all your redefining of age, and non-defining of embedded age.
Claim 1:
If something looks old, then that indicates that it has existed, more or less, for the same amount of time as it appears to have.
There is one exception that you have brought up so far,
and that is the bicycle. So, I reject claim 1 and present Claim 2:
If something looks old, then that indicates that it, or all the parts of it that look old, have existed, more or less, for the same amount of time as it, or they, appear to have.
So, since parts of the earth look old, that is indicative of their time in existence. Notice that we're not bringing age into it, so it doesn't matter what you do with English over there. You either have to deny that appearance of age is indicative of existence - something that you probably don't want to do since it's rather handy for all sorts of things - or you have to admit that God is a deceiver.
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thaumaturgy
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No, I'm the product of random chemical reactions, natural selection and dirt.
Did you hear the "whoosh" sound?
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No --- of course not.
It's much easier to say I said stuff I didn't say, than to say I said stuff I did say, isn't it?
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A cake with out sugar is still a cake.
I don't know what maturity is without history.
Sorry, I don't see the correlation either. I agree that a new word needs to be used.
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thaumaturgy
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You're right (and a bit crabby today!) What I meant was that either Maturity or History are indicative of past actions.
BOTH.
If you have one you still have to deal with how to get around the meaning thing.
(I would really like it if you would even agree that you might, indeed, be using somewhat unique versions of words like maturity.)
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Nathan Poe
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Do it yourself -- you're the one trying to shake your Omphalos label.
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thaumaturgy
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I was a bit mistaken in my post. I think the following sentences would be acceptable:
maturity without gornifilormia
or
blagnivlovim without history
Since both needn't be redefined as AV points out. Just so long as one doesn't make impossible the other.
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And I've seen the Bible's descriptions of our history and I don't agree with it. Only one of us is backed by evidence. Yet, you'll continue to believe this no matter what anyone says or produces to try and convince you.
So... who's gonna win the Superbowl dya think?
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Hold on here. AV, when do you think the flood occurred? According to most YEC counting, it occurred around 2300 bc. Would you buy that, or do you have some other date in mind?
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I'm a hardcore NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS fan, so I'm going to have to go with the NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS. To pick another team would be to deny my faith in the NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS. As a consequence I will have to deny any evidence that is contrary to the belief that the NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS are going to win the Superbowl.
C WUT I DID THAR?
In all seriousness, I'm a 3rd generation Bleedin' Blue Giants fan, and my beloved team will rock the house come Feb. 3rd.
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