The question of the Era

[demoastanes]

In the resent months I have come to question the beliefs of our American nation. Is it not hypocritical with everything accomplished? Do we not, every time we step forward into the future, end up two steps back? I try to question what it is that makes us see our reality in this fog. We ban teachers from actually teaching, turning schools into daycares but still require them to learn. We take God out of every corner of the country, even try to get him out of the national anthem but still it remain law that “in God we trust” stay on every currency minted so to make this nation seem just.
How is it that we can still print this motto on every bill and coin and still have the feeling of justice? Is it not this same principle that America has thrown away? Teachers not allowed to speak of God at all due to religious unrest, Because it would strike anger into those who do not believe in a god or believe in a different god.
When this country, this nation, was being created through treason and war, it was not through themselves they did this but through, and for, God himself. And God seeing this blessed the nation allowing it under his name to prosper and to grow. Our forefathers fought long and hard for what we are destroying.
It is ironic that the only place God still remains in this nation is on the very coin God said “give to Ceaser.” It was with the coin that Jesus was betrayed and crucified. And it is again the same coin that mocks everything he has done for this nation.
We were built by God, for God, with the help of our forefathers and now does God not see what we do? Have we elevated ourselves so high that even God is kicked from his stand? If a nation built by God, rejects its builder will it not become withered and broken to eventually fall?

It is not one person or a few who corrupt this nation, it is all of us, everyone and together we will ether gain back our sight of God, or we will together fall to the pits of destruction.



if you agree with me please say so if not then i would like to know why,

 

[Archaeopteryx]

In the resent months I have come to question the beliefs of our nation. Is it not hypocritical with everything accomplished? Do we not, every time we step forward into the future, end up two steps back? I try to question what it is that makes us see our reality in this fog. We ban teachers from actually teaching, turning schools into daycares but still require them to learn. We take God out of every corner of the country, even try to get him out of the national anthem but still it remain law that “in God we trust” stay on every currency minted so to make this nation seem just.
How is it that we can still print this motto on every bill and coin and still have the feeling of justice? Is it not this same principle that America has thrown away? Teachers not allowed to speak of God at all due to religious unrest, Because it would strike anger into those who do not believe in a god or believe in a different god.
When this country, this nation, was being created through treason and war, it was not through themselves they did this but through, and for, God himself. And God seeing this blessed the nation allowing it under his name to prosper and to grow. Our forefathers fought long and hard for what we are destroying.
It is ironic that the only place God still remains in this nation is on the very coin God said “give to Ceaser.” It was with the coin that Jesus was betrayed and crucified. And it is again the same coin that mocks everything he has done for this nation.
We were built by God, for God, with the help of our forefathers and now does God not see what we do? Have we elevated ourselves so high that even God is kicked from his stand? If a nation built by God, rejects its builder will it not become withered and broken to eventually fall?

It is not one person or a few who corrupt this nation, it is all of us, everyone and together we will ether gain back our sight of God, or we will together fall to the pits of destruction.



if you agree with me please say so if not then i would like to know why,

I'm not American, so I can not say that my opinion would be highly valid, but I am a Westener, and I do agree with you to a large extent.

 

[MsScarlett]

I see God everywhere. I sure don't need the government's help.

 

[dayhiker]

Clearly there is some truth to your post. But I think its an over statement. God is everywhere in this country also. There are a whole lot of Christians that love Jesus and are seeking to be lead by the Holy Spirit.

One of the things we forget about the past is that most often church was the only entertainment in town. There was no bowling alley, no movie theater, etc. Once a year a caneval of some kind might go thru town. But church was the only weekly activity to get people out. So even people that had little interest in God would go to church for he social part.

Today most people that go to church go because they love Jesus or are seeking. If they didn't love Jesus ther are 100 other things they could do. I see this as a good thing personally.

dayhiker

 

[imind]

this country was not founded for god, and we need to get it out of our heads that we need the govt to validate our beliefs.

 

[flicka]

I don't agree with you because a nation can't be Christian, it can't believe in God or accept Jesus as it's savior. Only individuals can. All a nation can do is protect the individuals rights, but it's can't worship right along with them.

 

[BrBob]

Those of us who are Christians and live in America are just that, Christians first and Americans second. It's OK to love our country. It's OK to be politically active and try to change our laws and society to reflect moral and just living.

It's not OK to expect the unsaved to agree with us about morality. Heck, we can't even agree among ourselves! It's also not OK to impose our morality on others, that has to come from the inside out.

Don't ever expect anything that is man made to conform to God's perfect nature. It's not possible. We can't trust our government wholeheartedly, that kind of dedication belongs to the Lord and Him alone. Our country was founded with checks and balances to protect the citizenry from government. That's what the second amendment is really all about, the right to keep and bear arms, to protect ourselves from invaders and from an overzealous government.

When the constitution was written, firearms were the most powerful weapons known to man. They were the primary instrument of war. Joe Citizen was given the right to keep his instrument of war because the wise men who wrote the founding documents knew that government grows and seeks to perpetuate itself. Thomas Jefferson, the man who wrote the Declaration of Independence once said:

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787.

Jefferson knew the value of rebellion. It is the substance of what checks and balances are all about.

Well, I'm getting off topic here.

God Bless
Bob
Spearfish, SD

 

[mont974x4]

God instituted government as a theocracy. Look at Adam and Eve, look at Isreal in the OT. Earthly leaders were given authority by Him. How the leadership goes, so goes the nation. A nation certainly CAN be Christian, it CAN be godly...but sin gets in the way.

Do your part. Reach people for Christ, change one life at a time and vote your concscience as the Lord leads you.

 

[dayhiker]

Mont .. I think your overstating the God instituted theocracy. Yes, in the ultimate sense God ules everything. But in the affairs of men, Jesus didn't speak against Rome and its form of government. I think as one reads the prophets that they never speak against the form of government that they are speaking judgment against. Bu they do speak against the way the govermental leaders treat the people they rule over.

dayhiker

 

[mont974x4]

Mont .. I think your overstating the God instituted theocracy. Yes, in the ultimate sense God ules everything. But in the affairs of men, Jesus didn't speak against Rome and its form of government. I think as one reads the prophets that they never speak against the form of government that they are speaking judgment against. Bu they do speak against the way the govermental leaders treat the people they rule over.

dayhiker

I don't think I overstated it, but I may have failed to explain it right. Look at Israel, until they demanded a king in 1 Samuel (?) God was their literal king. They were a true theocracy until God annointed Saul. Looking at 1 and 2nd Chronicles we see the evidence that the character of the leadership impacts the character of the nation. You know...king so and so did right in the sight of the Lord and so did the people...and sadly the reverse happened far to often....king so and so did evil in the sight of the Lord and so did the people.

 

[imind]

mont974x4, how would you feel about a theocracy here in the US?

 

[mont974x4]

mont974x4, how would you feel about a theocracy here in the US?

In theory, I'd love it. I'd love to have a truly Christian nation.

As a practical matter, it won't work. From my research the Constitution Party would be a move in that direction but I have found them to be little more than a "christian" version of the muslim shiria law system.

 

[The Lady Kate]

In theory, I'd love it. I'd love to have a truly Christian nation.

As a practical matter, it won't work. From my research the Constitution Party would be a move in that direction but I have found them to be little more than a "christian" version of the muslim shiria law system.

What kind of Christian theocracy wouldn't be a Christian version of the muslim shiria law system?

 

[Micah68]

I see God everywhere. I sure don't need the government's help.

nor do I want just anyone teaching my kids about God or religion. Can you honestly say plastering God on everything and posting the 10 commandments, etc. (how many people actually read them?) on every Gov. building will make us any more Christian? How is forcing Christianity on non-Christians productive? What ever happened to walking the talk, living by example, loving our neighbor as our self?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

In theory, I'd love it. I'd love to have a truly Christian nation.

As a practical matter, it won't work. From my research the Constitution Party would be a move in that direction but I have found them to be little more than a "christian" version of the muslim shiria law system.

Man-made artificial theocracy will not work because it is precisely that, man-made, as opposed to the Kingdom which is not of man but of God.