The Flood

[kidoncoathangers]

Say what???

Go to that site, and hold down your control key, then press "f". You'll find a window pop up (a bar if you're using firefox) type in your screen name, and hit "find" (firefox will find it automatically). You've got two quotes in there.

 

[AV1611VET]

Thank you, Kid, for showing me that.

Go to that site, and hold down your control key, then press "f". You'll find a window pop up (a bar if you're using firefox) type in your screen name, and hit "find" (firefox will find it automatically). You've got two quotes in there.

Wow, folks! Look what the cat (fsfsb - or whatever it's called) dug up!

If your original Hebrew disagrees with my original King James --- your original Hebrew is wrong. If your original Hebrew agrees with my original King James, your original Hebrew is right.

I remember that conversation from some time ago. I believe we were discussing how you can tell if a document was genuine or not; and I said that the way to do it is to compare it to the King James Bible. If it doesn't agree, it's wrong.

For example - if a phonebook says my phone number is 555-5555, and someone says that his phonebook, written in what he thinks is the original Hebrew, says it's 444-4444, I promise you, my phonebook will trump his any day.

He needs to find the original, original phonebook with 555-5555 in it, or his phonebook is not genuine.

 

[kidoncoathangers]

Thank you, Kid, for showing me that.



Wow, folks! Look what the cat (fsfsb - or whatever it's called) dug up!



I remember that conversation from some time ago. I believe we were discussing how you can tell if a document was genuine or not; and I said that the way to do it is to compare it to the King James Bible. If it doesn't agree, it's wrong.

For example - if a phonebook says my phone number is 555-5555, and someone says that his phonebook, written in what he thinks is the original Hebrew, says it's 444-4444, I promise you, my phonebook will trump his any day.

He needs to find the original, original phonebook with 555-5555 in it, or his phonebook is not genuine.

So are you claiming that the King James Version of the Bible is a 100% infallible translation? If so, on what grounds?

Your phonebook metaphor is flawed seeing as your phonebook wasn't originally written in hebrew, and doesn't contain complex literary devices, like most fiction, such as the Bible, does.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I remember that conversation from some time ago. I believe we were discussing how you can tell if a document was genuine or not; and I said that the way to do it is to compare it to the King James Bible. If it doesn't agree, it's wrong.

For example - if a phonebook says my phone number is 555-5555, and someone says that his phonebook, written in what he thinks is the original Hebrew, says it's 444-4444, I promise you, my phonebook will trump his any day.

He needs to find the original, original phonebook with 555-5555 in it, or his phonebook is not genuine.

And I'm curious about when King James became the ultimate arbiter of truth and accuracy?

 

[AV1611VET]

LOL --- I guess this is the other one:

"There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least."

I don't know squat about Evolution, I just know the very first chapter of the Bible trumps it.

If these make me "famous," then I guess fame comes cheap nowadays, eh?

 

[kidoncoathangers]

And I'm curious about when King James became the ultimate arbiter of truth and accuracy?

Ah, so you're the one with the Law named after him? 'tis an honor.

 

[Genre]

Thank you, Kid, for showing me that.



Wow, folks! Look what the cat (fsfsb - or whatever it's called) dug up!



I remember that conversation from some time ago. I believe we were discussing how you can tell if a document was genuine or not; and I said that the way to do it is to compare it to the King James Bible. If it doesn't agree, it's wrong.

For example - if a phonebook says my phone number is 555-5555, and someone says that his phonebook, written in what he thinks is the original Hebrew, says it's 444-4444, I promise you, my phonebook will trump his any day.

He needs to find the original, original phonebook with 555-5555 in it, or his phonebook is not genuine.

You would be assuming that the phone number is actually 555-5555.

Of course in your analogy, this is obviously the case, but lets not look at the situation in terms of analogy.

You don't know that the original Hebrew found is not the truth, and that your King James is wrong because you were not present at the creation of the text.

 

[kidoncoathangers]

LOL --- I guess this is the other one:



I don't know squat about Evolution, I just know the very first chapter of the Bible trumps it.

If these make me "famous," then I guess fame comes cheap nowadays, eh?

The "Famous" comment was a joke. As for the fact that you don't know anything about evolution, how do you know that the Bible contradicts it?

Furthermre, how do you know the bible to be true?

 

[walloffire]

Do you have any objective sources (this would rule out the bible) that stated that Jesus had supernatural powers?

Anything useful you can say about Jesus is in the Bible. Your question is pointless.

 

[walloffire]

The "Famous" comment was a joke. As for the fact that you don't know anything about evolution, how do you know that the Bible contradicts it?

Furthermre, how do you know the bible to be true?

Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Joh 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
Joh 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?


v17 - you try the doctrine (see matt 5-7) it works.

(Mat 6:4) That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

(Mat 6:6) But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

(Mat 6:18) That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.

try it. alms, prayer, fasting --- faith.

only personal experience will suffice as evidence, God's existence cannot be ascertained by science, as science can only form theories about those things which can be measured and have data recorded on.

 

[AV1611VET]

So are you claiming that the King James Version of the Bible is a 100% infallible translation? If so, on what grounds?

It has seven predecessors, five of which are nearly word-for-word copies of itself. They are as follows:

• AV1611 King James Version
• AV1587 Geneva Bible
• AV1568 Bishop's Bible
• AV1526 Tyndale Version
• AV1389 Wycliffe Version
• AV700 Anglo-Saxon Version
• AV350 Gothic Version
• AV100 Koine Greek Version

These show a fulfillment of what God said:

[bible]Psalm 12:6-7[/bible]

I'm sure that at one time the Hebrew Scriptures said the same things these Authorized Versions say - (since they came from the same Source) - specifically the autographs - (very words of the human authors in their handwriting).

 

[AV1611VET]

And I'm curious about when King James became the ultimate arbiter of truth and accuracy?

When God put His stamp of approval on his translation.

 

[Nathan Poe]

It has seven predecessors, five of which are nearly word-for-word copies of itself. They are as follows:

• AV1611 King James Version
• AV1587 Geneva Bible
• AV1568 Bishop's Bible
• AV1526 Tyndale Version
• AV1389 Wycliffe Version
• AV700 Anglo-Saxon Version
• AV350 Gothic Version
• AV100 Koine Greek Version

These show a fulfillment of what God said:

[bible]Psalm 12:6-7[/bible]

I'm sure that at one time the Hebrew Scriptures said the same things these Authorized Versions say - (since they came from the same Source) - specifically the autographs - (very words of the human authors in their handwriting).

So, they all say the same wrong thing. How does this prove your case?

 

[kidoncoathangers]

It has seven predecessors, five of which are nearly word-for-word copies of itself. They are as follows:

• AV1611 King James Version
• AV1587 Geneva Bible
• AV1568 Bishop's Bible
• AV1526 Tyndale Version
• AV1389 Wycliffe Version
• AV700 Anglo-Saxon Version
• AV350 Gothic Version
• AV100 Koine Greek Version

These show a fulfillment of what God said:

[bible]Psalm 12:6-7[/bible]

I'm sure that at one time the Hebrew Scriptures said the same things these Authorized Versions say - (since they came from the same Source) - specifically the autographs - (very words of the human authors in their handwriting).

So how exactly is a translation equal to a purification?

 

[Nathan Poe]

When God put His stamp of approval on his translation.

My KJV is missing a stamp. What does it look like?

 

[AV1611VET]

Ah, so you're the one with the Law named after him? 'tis an honor.

What law?

 

[kidoncoathangers]

When God put His stamp of approval on his translation.

And where did he do this?

 

[kidoncoathangers]

What law?

Poe's Law

 

[Nathan Poe]

Ah, so you're the one with the Law named after him?

The one and only.

'tis an honor.

The honor is mine -- always happy to meet a fan.

 

[kidoncoathangers]

Anything useful you can say about Jesus is in the Bible. Your question is pointless.

Not really, seeing as if one can take the Bible to be a valid source, we can take the Iliad to be a valid source as well. We should start worshiping Zeus immediately.