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Some Planned Parenthood Clinics Closing Due to State Budget Changes

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Hey, here's a twisted reality! Chances are that if fundynuts like you had their way, there still would have been about the same number of abortions - they just would have killed or injured a lot more mothers.

Just out of curiosity, what punishment would a mother who had an abortion get, in you perfect world?

I'd call a woman dying trying to murder her unborn child poetic justice...

why do you put a higher value on her life than that of the innocent child she is killing? Talk about twisted logic.

I guess it's just fundynuts like me who see the value of all life. Fundynuts like me can't turn a blind eye to millions of children being butchered so that women in this country have the "choice" to live loosely.
 
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I'd call a woman dying trying to murder her unborn child poetic justice...

why do you put a higher value on her life than that of the innocent child she is killing? Talk about twisted logic.

I guess it's just fundynuts like me who see the value of all life. Fundynuts like me can't turn a blind eye to millions of children being butchered so that women in this country have the "choice" to live loosely.
No, its fundynuts like you who give a bad name to people like me who dont like abortion, but recognize that its going to happen anyway. And furthermore, no child is being murdered.
 
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I'd call a woman dying trying to murder her unborn child poetic justice...

why do you put a higher value on her life than that of the innocent child she is killing? Talk about twisted logic.

I guess it's just fundynuts like me who see the value of all life. Fundynuts like me can't turn a blind eye to millions of children being butchered so that women in this country have the "choice" to live loosely.

You forgot to add men. Don't forget the other half of the equation that enjoys the "choice" to live loosely without fear of parental responsibility.
 
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I'd be perfectly happy with this if it was only the clinics that offered abortion that were being shut down but that is most likely not the case. More than likely clinics that offer health care and condoms and other forms of birth control are also being shut down and that is sad. Women need access to health care and birth control and Planned Parenthood is a top provider of both. But needless to say, I won't be shedding any tears for any abortion clinics being closed down.
READ THE ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!

THe clinics closing down did NOT perform abortions. They provided cheap effective prenatal care, birth control and counseling to poor women.

The effect of them closing means more unwanted pregnancies and crappier care for those pregnancies.

You guys whine and cry about stopping the murder of children, but I don't buy any of your self-righteous concern when none of you show any concern at all for the health and wellbeing of said children and their mothers. To you, pregnancy is a punishment for women having sex outside marriage, you could care less about the child as long as the mother is burdened with the consequences of her "choices."

It's sick.
 
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You forgot to add men. Don't forget the other half of the equation that enjoys the "choice" to live loosely without fear of parental responsibility.
Likewise, one can wonder how many men have suffered the loss of their child because they had absolutely ZERO legal choices in the decision to abort a child?
 
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READ THE ARTICLE!!!!!!!!!

THe clinics closing down did NOT perform abortions. They provided cheap effective prenatal care, birth control and counseling to poor women.

The effect of them closing means more unwanted pregnancies and crappier care for those pregnancies.

You guys whine and cry about stopping the murder of children, but I don't buy any of your self-righteous concern when none of you show any concern at all for the health and wellbeing of said children and their mothers. To you, pregnancy is a punishment for women having sex outside marriage, you could care less about the child as long as the mother is burdened with the consequences of her "choices."

It's sick.
If PP did all of the things they do without killing children I'd support them. For some reason, I can't seem to let a quarter of a million dead children go unnoticed.

Funny how no one ever argues the alternatives to abortion. Murdering the child because the mother just isn't ready for motherhood isn't the only answer.
 
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No, its fundynuts like you who give a bad name to people like me who dont like abortion, but recognize that its going to happen anyway. And furthermore, no child is being murdered.
No child?
Now who is making an ass of themselves? You really want to talk semantics now?
 
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You know, if Conservatives were serious about ending abortions, they could always back national healthcare, taking away the power of PP.

As it stands now, PP is needed. Until we find something else to take its place, they will always be needed.

Of course, that is if they were serious....
 
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You know, if Conservatives were serious about ending abortions, they could always back national healthcare, taking away the power of PP.

As it stands now, PP is needed. Until we find something else to take its place, they will always be needed.

Of course, that is if they were serious....
National healthcare? Go look at a Veterans Hospital and see how the government handles healthcare then come back and say that with a straight face...
 
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A tiny clump of cells is equivalent to a toddler in your eyes, is that what you're saying?
When those tiny clump of cells are the beginnings of life- yes. You have this idea that so long as it is not viable outside the womb it is subhuman and fair game to destruction on a whim.
Where does science say life begins? Conception.
Where does GOD say life begins? Conception.

Who are you to say otherwise?
 
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Mass executions for Jesus!



Yes, that is what he is saying.
Actually, it is the God of the Jews in the Old Testament (the one they repeatedly ignored) that called for so much destruction (as punishment for those Jews that continuously ignored Him).

Jesus Christ changed that. You'd do well to learn the difference (and stop ignoring Him).
 
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I'm "ignoring" Jesus for the same reasons that you're "ignoring" Allah, or Buddha, or Zeus. Are you really incapable of comprehending a concept like that?
Just giving you a heads up. No need to get your panties in a bunch...
 
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