Bob's artistic endeavour

[Tomm]

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[Pete Harcoff]

(Oops, I realized this is the wrong forum. Apologies.)

 

[imind]

this is supposed to convince me that evolution doesn't happen?

care to take another crack at it?

 

[busterdog]

this is supposed to convince me that evolution doesn't happen?

care to take another crack at it?

wrong forum.

 

[busterdog]

Bob's goal is to create a masterpiece painting, then he'd be rich and famous, although he never attended art school and knows nothing about art. Before he retired, he was a car mechanic.

He is getting tired of it. He has been trying to paint a masterpiece for 50 years already. Everyday, he would get a new canvas and try a different combination of brush strokes on it -- purely random brush strokes but different combination -- totally without any planning, design or concentration whatsoever, sometimes even blindfolded.

He has no luck yet. He is still waiting for his luck. He hopes to achieve something at least as good as a Picasso, if not Van Gogh -- without knowing anything about art. But what actually happened was that the art broker has thrown every single one of his works into the garbage bin.

His friend Paul asked him to give up.
But he replied, "No, no... I believe one day I shall make it..."

Paul: "But how could you possibly create a masterpiece if you never attended art school and know nothing about art ??"

Bob: "That's not entirely true ! A friend of mine, he is an evolutionary scientist, he told me if there were enough time, then it is possible for things to evolve into what they are today, some even got beautiful appearances --- all it took was trying different combinations of ... I forgot what that was called..."

Paul: "Genes ?"

Bob: "yes, exactly, genes... by trying different combinations of genes, even if there is no purpose, no planning, no intelligence and no artistic sense involved --- so, the SAME CAN APPLY TO ME..."

Paul: "But YOU ARE ALREADY 97 ! How much more time do you have ?"

Bob: "Well, I don't know, but I've got faith in my evolutionist friend's ideas... although I saw no evidence whatsoever. My friend is a scientist and I thought all scientists are honest and smart ... "

Paul: "That's ridiculous..."

No it isn't. You just move the goal posts a la the NEA, sponsor of the crucifix in a beaker of urine and the madonna adorned by dung and pornographic images. The NEA is more evolved, or course.

 

[crawfish]

Wasn't there a saying that an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters would eventually produce the collected works of Shakespeare?

 

[Dannager]

I'd love the chance to explain to the OP why his perceptions of evolutionary theory are incorrect, but debate is not allowed in this forum. Would you care to discuss in on the main OT board?

 

[Tomm]

I'd love the chance to explain to the OP why his perceptions of evolutionary theory are incorrect, but debate is not allowed in this forum. Would you care to discuss in on the main OT board?

There is no such need - macro evolution* is nothing but theory, and a disproved one, too (go read There is a God, Why 50 scientists choose to believe in creation, The Cave painting,etc).

* But micro evolution is acceptable for me.

 

[busterdog]

Wasn't there a saying that an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters would eventually produce the collected works of Shakespeare?

Give them all screw drivers and they could eventually create a time machine, come back in clever costumes and become the publishers of the journal Nature.

And we would all be none the wiser.

 

[Dannager]

There is no such need - macro evolution* is nothing but theory, and a disproved one, too (go read There is a God, Why 50 scientists choose to believe in creation, The Cave painting,etc).

* But micro evolution is acceptable for me.

Nothing I can do, then. Best wishes.

 

[Tomm]

Give them all screw drivers and they could eventually create a time machine, come back in clever costumes and become the publishers of the journal Nature.

And we would all be none the wiser.

Hmmm....

 

[Tomm]

Give them all screw drivers and they could eventually create a time machine, come back in clever costumes and become the publishers of the journal Nature.

And we would all be none the wiser.

What did you mean, my dear friend ??

 

[busterdog]

What did you mean, my dear friend ??

I think the canard about 1,000 monkeys with 1,000 typewriters and unlimited time eventually writing Hamlet is silly. It basically proves anything you want it to, which is what I was trying to illustrate.

 

[vossler]

I first chuckled and afterward became somber thinking about the effect the lie of evolution has had on our society and how seemingly blindly we follow its precepts and accept them as truth. I'm then encouraged to know that none of this surprises Him and as such it shouldn't surprise us. It then reminds me that my job isn't to change the world but to be an agent of God's for change. That truth encourages me greatly.

 

[suzmot]

I first chuckled and afterward became somber thinking about the effect the lie of <blank> has had on our society and how seemingly blindly we follow its precepts and accept them as truth.

Show this line to 100 random people.

Will they think you're talking about Evolution?

 

[vossler]

Show this line to 100 random people.

Will they think you're talking about Evolution?

That's the point, they're deceived and they don't even know it. The lie has become truth.

 

[suzmot]

That's the point, they're deceived and they don't even know it. The lie has become truth.

The only lies are those spread by creationists.

Evolution is fact. There is no serious debate amongst the scientific community.

If you have real evidence against the fact of evolution, present it professionally and claim your nobel prize.

 

[busterdog]

The only lies are those spread by creationists.

wrong

Evolution is fact. There is no serious debate amongst the scientific community.

wrong

If you have real evidence against the fact of evolution, present it professionally and claim your nobel prize.

Been there, done that. The committee can reach me here by email.

That should answer all your questions.

 

[pgp_protector]

Protected area never mind.

 

[The Barbarian]

It's always stunning to realize that in the middle of a society where almost anyone can read, and libraries are free, we still see people who actually believe evolution works randomly.