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Taking the Lord's Name in vain
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if you cannot see the problem with the idea that Adam named "all" the animals, then there is not much I can do to enlighten you.... now if you believe that Adam is a name that represents all humankind, then I would agree since there are still animals being discovered and named.....
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The word Adam refers to mankind. Humans are the ones who have been naming the species from the beginning. When we remove the literal from the story and see its representational aspects all these problems disappear. The man Adam knew nothing about amoeba so he could not have named them, for example.
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nor all the fish in the sea.... nor all the animals that were in his immediate environment....
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Are you doubting Adams intelligence? He was by far more intelligent than any of us could ever imagine. I think it is very small thinking to believe what he knew and didnt know.
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thank you for sharing... there is a logistical component that has to be considered, and you have not... its not a question of intelligence....
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Gen. 2:19-23
"19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
But for Adam [h] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [i] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [j] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23 The man said,
"This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called 'woman, [k] '
for she was taken out of man."
"19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
But for Adam [h] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [i] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [j] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. 23 The man said,
"This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called 'woman, [k] '
for she was taken out of man."
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there are several problems with the texts you quoted... you didn't mention them so you haven't thought about them... one day we can discuss it when you see the conundrum....
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some questions then:
On the sixth day man was created. Was the 6th day also a 24 hour period?
Here is what the bible says takes place on the 6th day.
Man is created, man names all the animals (birds and beasts), man sees that he is alone, God puts man asleep, God creates Eve.....
You are suggesting that all of that took place on the 6th day?
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I do believe that the sixth day was a literal 24 hour period. Along with the other days of course.
I suppose if God can create the animals in the way that He did why not be able to name them in a day?
It is amazing to me how out of one side of our mouth we say "with God all things are possible," and then out of the other side we say it is a conundrum.
I suppose if God can create the animals in the way that He did why not be able to name them in a day?
It is amazing to me how out of one side of our mouth we say "with God all things are possible," and then out of the other side we say it is a conundrum.
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No one says God could not name the animals in a day. It was Adam who had to name the animals. To name an animal requires one to observe it and give it a name that suits it.
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BRONX, NEW YORK--Most people can tell the difference between some types of berries, or bugs or trees, but much of the planet's life remains unnamed and unseen.
A stunningly egotistical Swedish naturalist, Carl Linnaeus, tried long ago to set humanity on track to remedy that.
His book, "Systema Naturae," first published in 1735 at 13 pages long, proposed a hierarchical system for classifying plants, animals and minerals (we later chipped away minerals into the domain of geology) and launched an effort to identify and inventory all the world's living things.
Now 250 years after publication of the book's latter editions, scientists still have discovered as few as 10 percent of the species now living on Earth, said Harvard biologist Edward O. Wilson, who spoke here last week at an event at the New York Botanical Garden to celebrate a visit of Linnaeus' personal copy of the book's first edition.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience...yearsofclassifyinglife90percentremainsunknown
the above article states that after 250 yrs, only 10% of the life on this planet has been identified and classified..... 10%.......
think about the ramifications.... that means 90% remains unknown, unidentified and unclassified...
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A stunningly egotistical Swedish naturalist, Carl Linnaeus, tried long ago to set humanity on track to remedy that.
His book, "Systema Naturae," first published in 1735 at 13 pages long, proposed a hierarchical system for classifying plants, animals and minerals (we later chipped away minerals into the domain of geology) and launched an effort to identify and inventory all the world's living things.
Now 250 years after publication of the book's latter editions, scientists still have discovered as few as 10 percent of the species now living on Earth, said Harvard biologist Edward O. Wilson, who spoke here last week at an event at the New York Botanical Garden to celebrate a visit of Linnaeus' personal copy of the book's first edition.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience...yearsofclassifyinglife90percentremainsunknown
the above article states that after 250 yrs, only 10% of the life on this planet has been identified and classified..... 10%.......
think about the ramifications.... that means 90% remains unknown, unidentified and unclassified...
more from the article:
as I said...... of course this is not going to sway anyone who believes in the literal interpretation of the previously discussed text... however for those who are interested, this does make you wonder how all of that could be done on the 6th day...
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Most people are more interested in defending their group than in finding truth.
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It is because we continue to view the bible writers as people who recorded complete 100% factual information.
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