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I am not asking you your standpoint. You are asserting I am wrong. I never said you were wrong until you claimed I was wrong.

I have shown how your arguments are invalid and meaningless to Atheists. I do my best to back up my standpoint with reason. When I assert that specific standpoints you make are wrong I back them up with reasons as to why.

And when you respond to mine, you do likewise.

So? The burden of proof still originates from a claim. If someone says you are wrong about X then they have to show why they think such. I do.

Anyway, I am off now. I hope you respond to my original post in time.
 
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But their existence is quick and easy to prove. They just have to physically touch me. Actually, not even that as I can see them, hear them, and (in some cases) smell them. If I bump into one of the members of the crowd I can feel them. Hopefully I don't taste them, but if I was to lick a member of the crowd I could.

Whereas I can't do any of these to your god.

"Way to go on ignoring the premise, and not answer the real issues."
 
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No, the Bible disagrees with your interpretation of reality. Therefore, your reality must be at fault.
No you're wrong.

(This is about what your arguments consist of, come on man, that isn't going to convince anybody)
 
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I have shown how your arguments are invalid and meaningless to Atheists. I do my best to back up my standpoint with reason. When I assert that specific standpoints you make are wrong I back them up with reasons as to why.

And when you respond to mine, you do likewise.

So? The burden of proof still originates from a claim. If someone says you are wrong about X then they have to show why they think such. I do.

Anyway, I am off now. I hope you respond to my original post in time.

Here is a question. What are the Atheist doing in the Non-Christian RELIGION section?
 
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The proof is this. You have done evil. Therefore, you must be punished. Christianity is the only religion that says, you will be punished, but also provides a way for you to be forgiven, while still keeping the idea of divine justice. It's the only religion that makes sense.
I would disagree.

The fact that god had to sacrifice himself, to himself for a rule that he himself set up screams cognative dissonence to me.
 
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The proof is this. You have done evil. Therefore, you must be punished. Christianity is the only religion that says, you will be punished, but also provides a way for you to be forgiven, while still keeping the idea of divine justice. It's the only religion that makes sense.

Sorry, Christianity's idea of justice makes no sense. It presents a cruel illogical God. Once more, if I thought Christianity was the only religion that made sense, I'd be a Christian.

This is not proof.
 
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Creation is not a myth. The flood did happen, and it's obvious. The fact that everyone from that time period had a myth flood is undeniable. That should make you think as to where they would get such an idea if they didn't borrow it from reality.
The same place they got the concepts of griffins, cyclopses, elves, fairies, gnomes, dwarves, giants, hydra, dragons, mermaids, nymphs, elementals, etc.

From their imagination. There is considerable evidence that there used to be massive floods in the land between the euphrates and tigris rivers. They only thought it was the whole world, when in reality, it was only their region.

There are so many holes in the global food theory, it's almost rediculous.
 
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The same place they got the concepts of griffins, cyclopses, elves, fairies, gnomes, dwarves, giants, hydra, dragons, mermaids, nymphs, elementals, etc.

From their imagination. There is considerable evidence that there used to be massive floods in the land between the euphrates and tigris rivers. They only thought it was the whole world, when in reality, it was only their region.
Maybe fundies don't have an imagination.

There are so many holes in the global food theory, it's almost rediculous.
Just almost ridiculous? That's giving it too much credit.
 
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It's called divine justice.
Yeah right. So if Hitler were to accept his faults and give himself to Christ right before he died, he would go to heaven, and all six million Jews he slaughtered are burning hell.

Is that the best responce you got?
 
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ROFL! I think that this is a good place for me to bow out of this conversation.

All I'm seeing here is:

Yes it is!
No it isn't!
Yes it is!
No it isn't!

...and I'm just kinda bored of this game. I'm going out for ice cream now. BBL. :wave:
 
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ROFL! I think that this is a good place for me to bow out of this conversation.

All I'm seeing here is:

Yes it is!
No it isn't!
Yes it is!
No it isn't!

...and I'm just kinda bored of this game. I'm going out for ice cream now. BBL. :wave:
Enjoy yourself. I still have a sadistic desire to argue with Chris. It's just so easy.
 
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