Letter to the Editor: Boy Scouts

[Marcel]

Originally posted by gunnysgt
Please remember the Christian Forum Mission Statement: Christian Forums was established as a free, non-profit and non-denominational online
Christian community to unite Christians of every denomination together as one body.

...and isn't it beautifull how it manages to establish more than just that?

(considering some of your post on this thread, that's a question I almost daren't ask)

 

 

[Gunny]

The atheists, pagans and rejecters of Jesus Christ VS. Ole' Man Gunny

Come one, Come all.

Watch the smooth talkers take down the ole' salty dog.

We used to say in the Nam(Vietnam), it ain't nothing but a thing.

Well gents, it ain't nothing but a thing. Con Biet?

 

[Havoc]

So I take it then you wouldn't answer the question even if it was put to you by an American Gunny?

If it "ain't no thing" why is Lecmah's country of origin important?
If it "ain't no thing" why comment on it at all?

Or is it that you've been backed into a corner you can't defend and so now you're just singing "la, la la" with your ears plugged, hoping we'll go away?

 

[Gunny]

If you were in the Nam, on a jungle creep in the middle of the night, then you would know what I mean when I say, "It ain't nothing but a thing"

Gunny out.

 

[Havoc]

Originally posted by gunnysgt
If you were in the Nam, on a jungle creep in the middle of the night, then you would know what I mean when I say, "It ain't nothing but a thing"

Gunny out.

I've been in many places, on a jungle creep in the middle of the night. I know what the phrase means in that context. I also am beginning to see what you mean when you use it in this context.

 

[Lacmeh]

Gunnysgt, I prefer to keep my privacy.
Therefore I only fill out the necessary forms.
Besides that, I could fill in anything and nobody would know, if it is true or not.
I guess, I have proven my accusation about me knowing US laws better than Hector or you quite correct. Or do you know the FDA, GLP, GMP, GCP regulations? Do you know about the mutual recognition of data between the OECD members? Do you know, the extent of controls other countries may do in USA and the FDA in other countries? I used to work in this sort of field, therefore I know some of it. Since Hector refuses to look up those regulations and clearly exhibited nil knowledge in this sort of field, my accusation of him not knowing the law is quite correct.
The usual way to discuss something is, first to inform oneself on the topic of the discussion. Therefore anyone wanting to discuss the lacking efficacy of medications, that are legally sold, should first inform oneself on the process of developing, testing and regulations for medications.

So gunnysgt, you won´t answer my questions, because I am not an American citizen and therefore my opinion is invalid?
I guess, that it must be really horrible to discuss with a non American citizen. Heavens forbid, the non American citizen might even learn something about the USA or get corrected about false information. That must not be. Everyone not living in America msut remain as ignorant as possible.

 

[Gunny]

Originally posted by Havoc
I've been in many places, on a jungle creep in the middle of the night. I know what the phrase means in that context. I also am beginning to see what you mean when you use it in this context.

Well, this a good thing.

Gunny out.

 

[Gunny]

Originally posted by Lacmeh
Gunnysgt, I prefer to keep my privacy.

Well, I like my privacy too.


Gunny out.

 

[Lacmeh]

Hm. so far the reasons, you don´t reply to my specific questions but to anything else:
I am not an American citizen.
I am not a Christian.
I didn´t fill out my profile, which when filled out can be true or not with no one knowing.

Sure, all things considered, very compelling reasons to dodge specific questions.

 

[Gunny]

Originally posted by Lacmeh

Sure, all things considered, very compelling reasons to dodge specific questions.

I am in favor of the goverment aiding the Boy Scouts of America because I believe in the good the Boy Scouts of America do in this country.

I do not care about whether atheists or homosexuals what into the ranks of the Boy Scouts of America, I beleve that the Organization should be allowed to remain to true to it's mission and pledge.

I want prayer and teaching of Creationism returned to public schools.

One need not look too far too see the deprvity created by the rooting out of God in public schools.

What God?

The One and true God. The Father, The Son(Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit.

Jesus stated He was the truth the way the life and that no man comes to the Father lest through Him.

My tax money is used to fund very, very many things I am in total and complete disagreement with including but not limited to any money going to the proliferation and or encouragement of abortion.

So, that's it, period.

I am not in this world to placate someone that seeks me to state that which I don't believe in.

Gunny out.

And, yes I know you shall once again state that I have not answered your questioning to your satisifaction, so be it.

 

[FordPrefect]

So Gunny, if you don't want the government to fund the encouragement of abortion, how can you accept them funding the boy scouts?

 

[Gunny]

Originally posted by Cammie
It's not "discrimination." It's about not giving in to what's "politically correct."

Amen, and AMEN!!!!!!!

 

[Gunny]

Originally posted by FordPrefect
So Gunny, if you don't want the government to fund the encouragement of abortion, how can you accept them funding the boy scouts?

Originally posted by gunnysgt
I am in favor of the goverment aiding the Boy Scouts of America because I believe in the good the Boy Scouts of America do in this country.

 

[crazyfingers]

Originally posted by gunnysgt
I am in favor of the government aiding the Boy Scouts of America because I believe in the good the Boy Scouts of America do in this country.

I do not care about whether atheists or homosexuals what into the ranks of the Boy Scouts of America, I believe that the Organization should be allowed to remain to true to it's mission and pledge.

I don't believe that one can morally expect both. Either they stop discriminating and keep their government money or the continue to discriminate and stop taking government money. 

And by the way, they don't just discriminate.  They are actually using government money to push Christianity. 

My brother was a Boy Scout. He had Downs Syndrome and was in a troop for the mentally handicapped.

Against my parents knowledge, they taught him to pray to Jesus. Of course he had no idea what he was praying about or what a Jesus concept is, but he would say his prayers before bed every night because it was what the boy scouts taught him to do.

This absolutely infuriated my dad when he learned of it. He was completely livid. But my mom convinced my dad that my brother didn't understand what he was doing so dad didn't complain to the troop leader.

It's interesting that the boy scouts decided that it was their job to teach my brother Christianity - with government money. That is unconstitutional.

I want prayer and teaching of Creationism returned to public schools.

So in other words you think that religious freedom is just for Christians?

One need not look too far too see the deprvity created by the rooting out of God in public schools.

Hogwash.  First no one has rooted your god from the public schools.  Kids are free to express themselves, to pray, to read the bible, whatever - so long as they don't try to enforce it onto others or do it to be disruptive.  Schools are not allowed to either endorse or to discourage kids from practicing their religion.  You have swallowed a lot of false ideas from those who think that it's OK to use the power of the government to push one religious point of view over another. 

Read this about what the law actually says about religion in the public schools.  UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION


If you read this you'll have to honestly agree that religious freedom is protected in school - for EVERYONE - by making sure that no group can use the government to force their point of view on everyone else.

Those who say that they lack religious freedom in school are not being truthful.  They have it.  What they don't have is the right to force their views onto everyone else.

What God?

The One and true God. The Father, The Son(Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit.

Well there you go.  You are suggesting that you should be able to use the power of the government for force your religious views onto everyone else.

That's wrong. It's immoral by the standard of the golden rule, and it's unconstitutional.  Did you pledge to defend and protect the constitution when you went into the military or do noncoms not have to pledge to protect the Constitution?

Jesus stated He was the truth the way the life and that no man comes to the Father lest through Him.

hearsay

My tax money is used to fund very, very many things I am in total and complete disagreement with including but not limited to any money going to the proliferation and or encouragement of abortion.

I think that everyone can make the claim that some of their money goes to support things that each of us disagrees with.  However your example, abortion, is protected under the constitution.  But the constitution prohibits the government from being used to push one religious view over another or religion over nonreligion.

So, that's it, period.

Your mind might be set, but by the morality that I live by, the golden rule and empathy for others, your position is morally indefensible.

And, yes I know you shall once again state that I have not answered your questioning to your satisifaction, so be it.

At least you answered.  You do not respect the principle of separation of church and state and the Constitution of the USA.


 

 

[Gunny]

Originally posted by crazyfingers
They are actually using government money to push Christianity.

Praise be to God!!!!!!!!!

 

[crazyfingers]

Originally posted by gunnysgt
Praise be to God!!!!!!!!!

As I said Gunny, you think that religious freedom only applies to Christians.

 

[Gunny]

 

[Lacmeh]

Gunysgt, that is your belief. Now we have a lot of other religions, which, under the law as it is, must get the same treatment as christianity. I guess, that won´t be popular with the average American citizen, because taxes will go up. And many don´t want to pay them.

 

[Gunny]

 

[Havoc]

Well I guess if you've run out of reasonable things to say you can always post propagandaa pictures