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After I have done so, you may do with me what you will. But I will not rest in this field of inherent dishonesty in which the holy treacheries lie.

No single force or influence has been more responsible in my life for messing me up personally than the SDA doctrine/dogma/institution. NOT Satan. NOT demons. NOT the occult. NOT even all the drugs I took as a teenager. But the SDA.

Because of the SDA I have spent the past two and a half decades of my life at war with myself, in turmoil, terror and conflict, afraid to create, afraid to write, afraid to produce, afraid to send anything from my hands forth into the world lest I one day be demanded to "answer for it" in particularly SDA vernacular and form with all that phrase implies. I have been afraid of the works of my own hands lest anything be "writ or carved in stone" as it were. My brilliance and my creativity have gone stultified, censored, muzzled, unfulfilled, and ALL I might have been or done in my life was muted and curtailed as a result of NOT Satan, NOT demons, NOT the occult, but my exposure to the SDA.

Because of the SDA my entire experience of God Himself has been molested and destroyed. I cannot distinguish in my own mind any authentic perception of God just as Himself (though I know I have had this before) without their doctrine, their dogma, their SLANT burned and branded and etched into every fiber of it, tainting, bending, shaping, corrupting, occluding it.

SATAN has not been the great evil in my life, not the source of terror and horror causing me to flee down endless corridors of dissociation to escape until I am but a hollow shell of anatta filled with howling demons and the chittering minions of Choronzon. NO. SATAN has been my Protector, My Defender My Initiator My Teacher My Guardian My GUIDE My LOVER my FRIEND. HE HAS NEVER ONCE MISTREATED ME. SATAN HAS NEVER ONCE MISTREATED ME.

If anything, I have mistreated HIM. I have been the one to be unworthy of HIS love, not the other way around. For the sake of pain and terror I have fled and betrayed Him numerous times and EVERY TIME He has taken me back with as much if not more grace and graciousness as has ever been attributed to Jesus Christ. *I* have been the one to play Gomer to His Hosea, to flee like a traitorous and ungrateful, faithless wh0re, to toy with old sweetnesses that could not be mine and though He MIGHT have cast me into the streets to die a dung-stinking death as a forsaken Harlot HE HAS NOT DEALT WITH ME AS I DESERVE.

Satan has NEVER mistreated me, not once. All things I may ever have said to the contrary have been LIES wrung forth from me by desperate attempts to be something I am not and can never be..... something I am done with pretending myself to be, something barred and locked to me and that is sweet and agreeable and happy in the lies that I am compelled to make for the sake of any impotent sovereign. (I do not regard God as such but rather my experience of Him was onetime this and so I use these words to describe that subjective thing only.)

Let the record show that Satan has never mistreated me.
Let the record show that Satan and demons and the occult have nowhere near MESSED ME UP fractured my mind and my consciousness to the extent that exposure to the SDA has done.

Let the record STAND. Make of it what ye will; I well know what crimson judgment awaits me at the filthy dungstinking foul foetid and molesting hands of some of you who would rather destroy me than bear the truth to be told in your faces.

But for you who do not accept, for you who see beyond, reach out and take my hand and be not afraid.

Moriah, Conquering Wind.
 

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Let the record show I have made a true and honest and faithful confession of the truth of my soul, my being, and my experience.

Let the record also show that Woobadooba's comments have no power to alter this one wit, and no authority to overwrite it with his own preferences, for it is not subject to him whatsoever.
 
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The issue is that she has been heavily damaged, and I don't think just by herself. I think that the SDA church (her church, my church, your church) has played a role in this confusion and damage... but I don't know how to fix it.

JM

I don't believe it can be fixed. What was it Ellen White wrote? "Ruined for this life and the life to come." BUT We appreciate your honest acknowledgement of the truth.
 
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The issue is that she has been heavily damaged, and I don't think just by herself. I think that the SDA church (her church, my church, your church) has played a role in this confusion and damage... but I don't know how to fix it.

JM

Until she sees Satan for the liar that he is the problem will not go away. It's not for us to fix, nor is it our fault that this has happened.

It is up to her to accept the truth about satan, and stop blaming everyone for the choices that she has made in her life to subject herself to him. Has she had a hard time? Yes. But so haven't we. In fact, I would even venture to say that I have had a harder time than she has, or at least one that is very similar. Am I blaming the SDA church for this? No.

When the pity party ends the healing will begin.

Moria,

This is tough love. As long as you continue to bask in your pain it will never go away. You need to cast your cares on Christ, and allow him to transform that heart of yours into something that will shine forth in His righteousness.

Again, I draw your attention to Phil. 4:8
 
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No single force or influence has been more responsible in my life for messing me up personally than the SDA doctrine/dogma/institution. NOT Satan. NOT demons. NOT the occult. NOT even all the drugs I took as a teenager. But the SDA.

One day I was all wrought up. I don't know why or what it was all about but I was. So, I grabbed the book Desire of Ages and layed down on the couch and started to read. After 3 hours I was at peace and all calm and relaxed.

A doctrine, dogma, institution or even drugs can't "cause" anyone problems. It's how you relate to them that does so. The ouija board, the horoscopes in the newspaper, the prono on the web, the drugs out in the street, the heresies of some of the televevangelists don't bother me at all because I don't go there, don't listen to them, don't use them.

The Bible only causes problems with people who subconsciously still want to hang onto their sins and they resist the transformation of the mind that is required. When we realize the bright future God has in store for us then it is like the chorus:

"Turn your eyes upon Jesus,
Look full in His wonderful face,
And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
in the light of His glory and grace."

You have realized that you are messed up--that is actually good news because you cannot solve a problem if you don't realize that you have one (think of global warming--too many think we don't have a problem there). The fact that you are messed up may not appear to be good news, but in fact, it is. While Satan wants to destroy you through his false religions and drugs, God wants you even more!

Think of Hugh Hefner and Donald Trump. Are they messed up? Yes. Do they realize it? No. And because they don't know it they will not seek to find the fix for their problems.

Let the record show that Satan has never mistreated me.

On the contrary, he has already taken you down the day you were born from where you were supposed to be. He introduced sin into this world and so we aren't what we could have been if he wasn't around.

You were called to be a daughter of the living God; it is time to stop fighting it and move forward, never looking back.
 
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After I have done so, you may do with me what you will. But I will not rest in this field of inherent dishonesty in which the holy treacheries lie.

No single force or influence has been more responsible in my life for messing me up personally than the SDA doctrine/dogma/institution. NOT Satan. NOT demons. NOT the occult. NOT even all the drugs I took as a teenager. But the SDA.
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I think that you have some truth here. But you seem to forget this later on.

Because of the SDA I have spent the past two and a half decades of my life at war with myself, in turmoil, terror and conflict, afraid to create, afraid to write, afraid to produce, afraid to send anything from my hands forth into the world lest I one day be demanded to "answer for it" in particularly SDA vernacular and form with all that phrase implies. I have been afraid of the works of my own hands lest anything be "writ or carved in stone" as it were. My brilliance and my creativity have gone stultified, censored, muzzled, unfulfilled, and ALL I might have been or done in my life was muted and curtailed as a result of NOT Satan, NOT demons, NOT the occult, but my exposure to the SDA.

Because of the SDA my entire experience of God Himself has been molested and destroyed. I cannot distinguish in my own mind any authentic perception of God just as Himself (though I know I have had this before) without their doctrine, their dogma, their SLANT burned and branded and etched into every fiber of it, tainting, bending, shaping, corrupting, occluding it.

Once more, you are saying truth here. But the thing is that God loves you, wants the best for you, and will take care of you. He won't cause you to damage yourself (Which the devil does, even when you can't determine it.. in fact, damage outside of our understanding is the devil's speciality). He will bless you in what you produce. He will give you a future, and not an illusionary one. Seek God, and you will find Him.

And the SDA church (my church, our church) has done you wrong, and should aid you. But we are human, and failures, and you can't put your trust in us. The only one who you can trust, the only one who won't let you down, is God.

peace,
JM
 
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Satan will be destroyed.

He is not your friend and he hasn't protected you from anything. He wants you to feel exactly what you do right now.

He wants as many people to be destroyed with him as he can get his hands on. He wants God to believe that people chose to join him in darkness rather than love Him.

If the SDA church is your enemy, it's pretty obvious why that is so. The SDA church would never agree that satan is anyone's friend or protector so it goes against everything you've been compelled to say right here.

Satan is the father of lies, the cause of all evil. He thrives on eating people to the core and turning their reality upside down.

Type this same thing in any other denominational forum and you'll get told the same thing...satan is not yoiur friend or your protector. He would probably just smile as you burned up with him.

Satan is a blamer. He has you right where he wants you if you can seriously sit there and say that the SDA church hurt you more than he ever could.

Obviously you are not afraid to write. You're doing a good job of it now and it is brilliant. Although it is deeply wrong to the very core of what a loving God would have you say.

Do you love the people within the SDA church even though you blame them for your troubles?

You need to be honest with us and with yourself.

When you type "My Father" are you referring to satan or the God of heaven?
 
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Until she sees Satan for the liar that he is the problem will not go away. It's not for us to fix, nor is it our fault that this has happened.

It is up to her to accept the truth about satan, and stop blaming everyone for the choices that she has made in her life to subject herself to him. Has she had a hard time? Yes. But so haven't we. In fact, I would even venture to say that I have had a harder time than she has, or at least one that is very similar. Am I blaming the SDA church for this? No.

When the pity party ends the healing will begin.

Moria,

This is tough love. As long as you continue to bask in your pain it will never go away. You need to cast your cares on Christ, and allow him to transform that heart of yours into something that will shine forth in His righteousness.

Again, I draw your attention to Phil. 4:8
Hey Woob, go screw yourself. Your "tough love" is neither (especially not the latter) and it is not welcome or wanted here. Your JUDGMENTS (Matthew 7:1-3) concerning "pity party" and the like are equally b/s and unwelcome here. I tried to ask you nicely to stay the frack out of my damned thread and you still have to INTRUSIVELY PENETRATE YOU RAPIST. WHEN A GIRL SAYS NO SHE MEANS NO.
 
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After I have done so, you may do with me what you will. But I will not rest in this field of inherent dishonesty in which the holy treacheries lie.

No single force or influence has been more responsible in my life for messing me up personally than the SDA doctrine/dogma/institution. NOT Satan. NOT demons. NOT the occult. NOT even all the drugs I took as a teenager. But the SDA.

Because of the SDA I have spent the past two and a half decades of my life at war with myself, in turmoil, terror and conflict, afraid to create, afraid to write, afraid to produce, afraid to send anything from my hands forth into the world lest I one day be demanded to "answer for it" in particularly SDA vernacular and form with all that phrase implies. I have been afraid of the works of my own hands lest anything be "writ or carved in stone" as it were. My brilliance and my creativity have gone stultified, censored, muzzled, unfulfilled, and ALL I might have been or done in my life was muted and curtailed as a result of NOT Satan, NOT demons, NOT the occult, but my exposure to the SDA.

Because of the SDA my entire experience of God Himself has been molested and destroyed. I cannot distinguish in my own mind any authentic perception of God just as Himself (though I know I have had this before) without their doctrine, their dogma, their SLANT burned and branded and etched into every fiber of it, tainting, bending, shaping, corrupting, occluding it.

SATAN has not been the great evil in my life, not the source of terror and horror causing me to flee down endless corridors of dissociation to escape until I am but a hollow shell of anatta filled with howling demons and the chittering minions of Choronzon. NO. SATAN has been my Protector, My Defender My Initiator My Teacher My Guardian My GUIDE My LOVER my FRIEND. HE HAS NEVER ONCE MISTREATED ME. SATAN HAS NEVER ONCE MISTREATED ME.

If anything, I have mistreated HIM. I have been the one to be unworthy of HIS love, not the other way around. For the sake of pain and terror I have fled and betrayed Him numerous times and EVERY TIME He has taken me back with as much if not more grace and graciousness as has ever been attributed to Jesus Christ. *I* have been the one to play Gomer to His Hosea, to flee like a traitorous and ungrateful, faithless wh0re, to toy with old sweetnesses that could not be mine and though He MIGHT have cast me into the streets to die a dung-stinking death as a forsaken Harlot HE HAS NOT DEALT WITH ME AS I DESERVE.

Satan has NEVER mistreated me, not once. All things I may ever have said to the contrary have been LIES wrung forth from me by desperate attempts to be something I am not and can never be..... something I am done with pretending myself to be, something barred and locked to me and that is sweet and agreeable and happy in the lies that I am compelled to make for the sake of any impotent sovereign. (I do not regard God as such but rather my experience of Him was onetime this and so I use these words to describe that subjective thing only.)

Let the record show that Satan has never mistreated me.
Let the record show that Satan and demons and the occult have nowhere near MESSED ME UP fractured my mind and my consciousness to the extent that exposure to the SDA has done.

Let the record STAND. Make of it what ye will; I well know what crimson judgment awaits me at the filthy dungstinking foul foetid and molesting hands of some of you who would rather destroy me than bear the truth to be told in your faces.

But for you who do not accept, for you who see beyond, reach out and take my hand and be not afraid.

Moriah, Conquering Wind.
 
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Hey Woob, go screw yourself. Your "tough love" is neither (especially not the latter) and it is not welcome or wanted here. Your JUDGMENTS (Matthew 7:1-3) concerning "pity party" and the like are equally b/s and unwelcome here. I tried to ask you nicely to stay the frack out of my damned thread and you still have to INTRUSIVELY PENETRATE YOU RAPIST. WHEN A GIRL SAYS NO SHE MEANS NO.

Why anyone would want to have pity for you while you act like this is beyond me!

We're done! I will not allow you to try to control me. You may get away with this with others, but it won't work with me. You will not manipulate me into feeling sorry for you.

You've made your choices. Stop blaming everyone else for them, and take responsibility for them. Yes, you have been wounded. It;s not your fault that people have done bad things to you. But you are not helping the situation by being so abusive as you have been in many of your posts.

Goodbye!
 
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Satan will be destroyed.
Not if I have anything to say about it ... Rev 14:3

He is not your friend and he hasn't protected you from anything. He wants you to feel exactly what you do right now.
He is and has been, for over 2 decades, My Friend, My Lover, My Guardian, Mine Initiator. He has protected me from a fate worse than death which your system had marked me for early and drove me toward, a fate many of its casualties adopt and this is the reason for most of your vitriolic "self supporting" institutions and the holy-sounding jihads against mother SDA church they launch ...

He wants as many people to be destroyed with him as he can get his hands on. He wants God to believe that people chose to join him in darkness rather than love Him.
You know nothing of His heart ... you know nothing of what He truly desires or feels. That is where we differ....

... it goes against everything you've been compelled to say right here.
I am compelled to set the record straight by naught but a relentlessly pathological honesty which burns inside me and could i not give it voice the very stones would cry forth and i would cut myself upon them....

Satan is the father of lies, the cause of all evil. He thrives on eating people to the core and turning their reality upside down.
You believe this because you have predetermined ONLY to believe the testimony of anyone who confesses this in their torment. Torment is holy. Torment is sacred. Torment is delight. Torment is bliss. Torment is pleasure. It is beautiful to be tortured for my Master's pleasure. It is delicious to burn inside for Him, oh yes yes yes!!!!! He makes me like it, He blesses me with the infernal gift of Transmutation and marks me marks me marks me His wh0re.....

Type this same thing in any other denominational forum and you'll get told the same thing...satan is not yoiur friend or your protector. He would probably just smile as you burned up with him.
If we are together it suffices, I desire nothing but to serve His pleasure for this is what He has done to me, this is what He has made of me.... you cannot hear Me can you ... I am under the curse of the magus, I am, that when I speak the truth, falsehood is heard, and I am bound to speak falsehood that truth may be heard, but my inherent pathological honesty tortures me and will not permit, so I speak with many voices, many, not one, but One with Him, this many. Do you understand Us? CAN you hear Us?

Obviously you are not afraid to write. You're doing a good job of it now and it is brilliant.
Hmmmm humbly and profusely we thank you.
I have done more than just write. I have loosened the cords of the Abyss and released powers and principalties upon the earth; I have named First Contacts of pestilent godforms who are now worshiped by others ...

Do you love the people within the SDA church even though you blame them for your troubles?
I love all honest seekers for truth who comprehend that Truth, above all, is about grace -- love, mercy, kindness, gentleness, meekness, faithfulness, etc. -- not about cramming their self-inflated self-righteous opinions down others' throats ...

You need to be honest with us and with yourself.
I have been very honest indeed. Can you bear it?

When you type "My Father" are you referring to satan or the God of heaven?
The Most High, Creator of Heaven and Earth and all that in them is, He it is Whom I acknowledge as My Father.
 
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