If a split happens, who is who?

[StormyOne]

When it comes to the Traditonals I have more influence than you may realize. There are just a couple of them that give me a hard time, but most of them understand why I speak in the manner that I do, and agree with my thoughts on many things.

I can't say the same for the Progressives, since they utterly despise me. Then again, their opinion of me doesn't really matter.

again you are mistaken. I don't despise you at all Woob, while I don't agree with you, I do not despise you... interesting that you feel that way.... your language and attitude seems to suggest that you despise those who don't share your views, but again, I could be mistaken.....

 

[StormyOne]

In its current state both progressives and non-progressives can give their input. But if a split takes place things will change.

time will tell....

 

[OntheDL]

additionally once you start splitting, it never ends.... we will always find a way to divide ourselves....

I agree totally. What about new comers? Where do they go? Who decides? And the moderates?

 

[woobadooba]

I agree totally. What about new comers? Where do they go? Who decides? And the moderates?

All will be welcome, but not all things will be allowed. As for moderates, I think that is something that we need to address, as I do not like the way CF decides who is who. I think it is an issue of approach to the interpretation of scripture that ought to decide who we are--either liberal or conservative. I don't think that just because a person doesn't agree with one or more of the 28 doctrines that that person ought to be called a liberal. One could still be conservative and disagree.

 

[TrustAndObey]

Woob, do you honestly believe that the strife here is more about the subjects discussed or the belittlement used while "discussing"?

I'm just asking.

 

[woobadooba]

Woob, do you honestly believe that the strife here is more about the subjects discussed or the belittlement used while "discussing"?

I'm just asking.

I think it is a combination of both, but mostly the belittlement.

 

[DarylFawcett]

And who has been doing the belittleing?

 

[StormyOne]

And who has been doing the belittleing?

the 64,000 dollar question...

 

[woobadooba]

And who has been doing the belittleing?

It ought to be quite clear by now that most of us our guilty of this. Even you with your 3ABN threads.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

And who has been doing the belittleing?

It ought to be quite clear by now that most of us our guilty of this. Even you with your 3ABN threads.

exactly where did Daryl belittle any one in the 3ABN thread?

 

[woobadooba]

exactly where did Daryl belittle any one in the 3ABN thread?

Danny Shelton

 

[tall73]

We all know you to be a progressive. So don't even go there!

That depends on the standard, which so far no one has tried to clarify.

Is it the old standard?

 

[tall73]

All will be welcome, but not all things will be allowed. As for moderates, I think that is something that we need to address, as I do not like the way CF decides who is who. I think it is an issue of approach to the interpretation of scripture that ought to decide who we are--either liberal or conservative. I don't think that just because a person doesn't agree with one or more of the 28 doctrines that that person ought to be called a liberal. One could still be conservative and disagree.

So please clarify what standard of inspiration needs to be met.

Have you talked this over with folks like honor the sabbath who is quite clear that those who don't accept the 28 are offshoots?

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Danny Shelton

it don't think a public figure in an financial and marital scandal exactly quallifies as off limits and raising awareness about the issue is not off limits. It is just not your personal preference. Danny Shelton is not a member here. Danny is a public figure and as such is not exempt from critisim. Daryl has done nothing wrong in trying to hold DS and 3ABN accountable for there actions and call for an investigation.

 

[woobadooba]

So please clarify what standard of inspiration needs to be met.

I think Samuel Pipim defined the difference quite well in his book, Receiving The Word

Go here and click on Receiving The Word http://drpipim.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61&Itemid=96

 

[StormyOne]

So please clarify what standard of inspiration needs to be met.

Have you talked this over with folks like honor the sabbath who is quite clear that those who don't accept the 28 are offshoots?

exactly....

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

In answer to this question: Originally Posted by DarylFawcett
And who has been doing the belittleing?

It ought to be quite clear by now that most of us our guilty of this. Even you with your 3ABN threads.

I think this very well points out the Utopian idea of a new forum where suddenly most of us no longer do what we have been doing. As if we are all going to change in a moment just because there are new forums, not likely. And I don't think the 3ABN threads are belittling but I do agree that most of us have at some time belittled others.

 

[StormyOne]

In answer to this question: Originally Posted by DarylFawcett
And who has been doing the belittleing?



I think this very well points out the Utopian idea of a new forum where suddenly most of us no longer do what we have been doing. As if we are all going to change in a moment just because there are new forums, not likely. And I don't think the 3ABN threads are belittling but I do agree that most of us have at some time belittled others.

Daryl made a good point.... the forum is split now, so how is a new split going to differ from the current one...

 

[woobadooba]

Daryl made a good point.... the forum is split now, so how is a new split going to differ from the current one...

This makes no sense.

It's split now because there are two groups at war within it. Allow each group to have their own forum and the problem is solved. Hence, this forum will no longer be split. Instead it will be united in the same purpose, to promote growth in Christ, rather than to do nothing but murmur and complain about every little thing that is wrong with our doctrines, the church, and the members thereof.

 

[longhair75]

It's split now because there are two groups at war within it. Allow each group to have their own forum and the problem is solved. Hence, this forum will no longer be split. Instead it will be united in the same purpose, to promote growth in Christ, rather than to do nothing but murmur and complain about every little thing that is wrong with our doctrines, the church, and the members thereof.

Wasn't the creation of the Traditional and Progressive subforums within the SDA forum supposed to address these issues?