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I am an atheist who sincerely want to become a Christian(or any similiar religion)...

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These are truly amazing replies!

As I was reading this thread, I clicked on a random FM Static song (Mind you, I just heard about FM Static, I don't know any of their songs). As I continued to read this thread, the song "Something to Believe In" by FM Static, the random song that I was listening to, came to life.

I quickly searched the lyrics, and it's amazing that it pertains to this thread exactly! How amazing.

Listen to the song: http://youtube.com/watch?v=rR6sG38k7j4

Here are the lyrics: http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/fmstatic/somethingtobelievein.html

A particular section of the song stood out for me. I felt as though I needed to share it with you.

And if you don't know what i'm talking about
it's probably better cause i'm working out
don't wanna spend my lifetime figuring out
that i coulda just said one prayer

And if you know what i'm talking about
then together were both working it out
don't wanna spend my lifetime figuring out
i missed the point now it's over

I don't know if this means anything to you, but I just had a conviction in my heart to post this here.

James 4:8 - "Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded"
Hi IC, thanks for that, they were very interesting. Blessings to you.
 
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jazzypooh: Thank you very much, I am going to check out those sites for sure.

Elijah2: ""There are many times when something nice happens to me, and I feel overwhelmed with emotion, but I don't think this counts as God's presence, because I could just as easily say it's some sort of brain process."
Sorry mate, that was God talking to your heart, not your brain."

I often get mixed answers about this one. Some people say there will be no confusion if it's God, and others say those strong emotions are God "in disguise". But yes, I suspect revelation would be stronger than rational proof in convincing someone about God's Nature.

All the rest: Than you all very much for your kind words and prayers. All the responses so far have been great.

Much love and appreciation to all of you.:)
Well mate, revelation is the answer to all things, and most Christians had revelations to come to where they are at the present moment.

As each day goes by, we have different sorts of revelations, and when you feel those revelations in your heart, then you know it's our Lord.

Satan is the only one who puts fear into our hearts.
 
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Hey, There's nothing wrong with being an atheist. You don't need god or any other religous figure to make you happy. Don't worry about religion. It is not at all important
Please be respectful. I'm sorry that you feel that way, but one wonders why you sign up on a Christian Forum to tell those who sincerely want to become Christian that they don't need the Lord.

Besides, I'm pretty sure that there are more important things in life than just looking out for No. 1.
 
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Hey, There's nothing wrong with being an atheist. You don't need god or any other religous figure to make you happy. Don't worry about religion. It is not at all important

MY FRIEND,

In other words you are saying, "LIGHT IS NOT ALL THAT IMPORTANT--JUST KEEP YOUR EYES CLOSED AND BE HAPPY IN YOUR DARKNESS."

Some might call that a rather poor life choice.

ephraim
 
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Hi,

I was once in the same place you are now...I also took philosophy classes...but I wasn't seeking God like you are, I thought I had all the answers about Him. I read CS Lewis' "Mere Christianity" and it really helped me sort some things out. I recommend it.

I don't believe that mere logic would lead someone to God, because our minds can't ever understand something so infinite and unimaginable. I've understood much more about God just by experiencing Him..I'm learning to recognize Him and to hear His voice. I've felt His presence, and I'm not sure how to explain it to you but it's like you just know that He's there. I've also found that my way of thinking has completely changed. I haven't left my brain behind, in fact I can understand things now that I've never could understand or even imagine before. In fact, my mind is much stronger now.

In the Bible, it says that only the spiritual man can understand spiritual things...we need to have the Holy Spirit to understand God, because otherwise He's simply too big for us. Otherwise, we're trying to understand something that is completely outside of our experience. Our logic is mostly based on what we've observed. Once I chose to believe in God, His existence started to seem logical because I began a relationship with Him and He was within my experience.

You see, it's really a choice. God doesn't force His way in, He gives us free will. But if we choose Him, it's got to be for the right reasons...if we choose Him just because His existence has been proven to us, that's not a 'free' decision. But if we choose God solely based on our will, by faith, then He reveals Himself to us. It's by His grace that we are able to believe and are saved; faith is made possible by Him and is not something we create in ourselves. We simply have to agree to it.
God knows that you feel skeptical, and maybe the reason He's not answering your prayers right now is because He is waiting for you to choose Him over logic. You want to believe, well God's just waiting for you to make a choice. :) As I said, He won't force His way in. I got evidence of God's existence after I chose to believe, because of free will. If you don't feel that you can choose to believe right now, give it some time..pray, research..sometimes it takes time. It sure did for me.

Thanks for your sincere post. You are in my prayers.
God bless


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Dude you're already feeling God. The simple fact you want to contact Him has got to mean something.

But the problem the OP is facing is that he wants to contact God on his terms, not on God's terms. This never works--as he is finding out.

The key to the door is HUMILITY.


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He was kidding, and you christians took the bait.

Try to save me, I am a deist.

No atheist want to be save by religion. Atheist are sometimes arrogant a-holes. Trust me, to them I am a theist an to you I am a non-theist. Atheist can be arrogant. Theist can be blind.

Again, theist are blinded by faith. It is upsetting that you put good people to hell. C'mon, you interpret you religion in every other way, but sending me to hell is BS.

For atheist who want to label me, bring it on in nuetral turf.
 
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It's all about MOTIVE MOTIVE MOTIVE...
and you simply can't fool God.

God says "if you seek Me you WILL find Me".
This is a truth!
It is also a promise... to anyone who is willing to put in the real effort.
God never left anybody twisting in the wind. Never.

His,
Rev J
 
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He was kidding, and you christians took the bait.

Try to save me, I am a deist.

No atheist want to be save by religion. Atheist are sometimes arrogant a-holes. Trust me, to them I am a theist an to you I am a non-theist. Atheist can be arrogant. Theist can be blind.

Again, theist are blinded by faith. It is upsetting that you put good people to hell. C'mon, you interpret you religion in every other way, but sending me to hell is BS.

For atheist who want to label me, bring it on in nuetral turf.

In all honesty, i am not sure of how a deist would/could be saved in that he accepts a god--but one that is not involved in his creation beyond the act of creation itself.

God was, of course, VERY MUCH INVOLVED with His Creation as per John 3:16, but i am not sure how a deist would avail themselves of this Godly outreach and sacrifice given their belief that "god is no longer in the house."

Using the old deist "clock maker" analogy--if god built the clock but had a hands-off policy towards it afterwards--what good is it once it runs down and is not able to re-wind itself in order to keep itself going?

A BONDSLAVE OF CHRIST,
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Hi, I am a newly converted atheist and all I can really say is that if you just cast away all doubt and pray to God he will answer. That is basically my conversion story in a nutshell and I can't give you much more advice because I don't know very much. I simply know that God loves me and I have a very friendly personal relationship with him. If you want that relationship enough then you will get it. But you must initiate it. I hope you can find some comfort in my advice. And maybe some inspiration too.
 
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Hi, I am a newly converted atheist and all I can really say is that if you just cast away all doubt and pray to God he will answer. That is basically my conversion story in a nutshell and I can't give you much more advice because I don't know very much. I simply know that God loves me and I have a very friendly personal relationship with him. If you want that relationship enough then you will get it. But you must initiate it. I hope you can find some comfort in my advice. And maybe some inspiration too.

MY BROTHER,

From your Post it is obvious that you know everything that needs to be known. Everything else is just frosting on the cake!

THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR TESTIMONY!


A BOND-SLAVE OF CHRIST,
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I TRULY want to believe in an all-loving God, and that I will see all my loved ones again in Heaven. I can't even imagine the thought of getting married, and loving someone with all my heart, and losing them forever (I was reading the "Life Stages: widow/widowers section" and almost broke down crying). I am an atheist because I see no reason for believing in God's existence, and all rational arguments I have seen in favour of His existence are unsound (and as a philosophy student, believe me I've seen them all). I doubt strictly logical argumentaion will lead me to God, but then what? Despite the fact I am an atheist, I have prayed sincerely with all my heart, for a God to reveal himself to me, but I have never felt anything. This is all the more difficult for me because of my skeptical nature (practically anything short of seeing Jesus waving outside my window would leave me not wholly convinced). I mean people often say they "feel" God, but this is sort of unclear. There are many times when something nice happens to me, and I feel overwhelmed with emotion, but I don't think this counts as God's presence, because I could just as easily say it's some sort of brain process. If I could believe in God I feel I would be happy beyond words, so please, anyone who can help me, I would be forever grateful.
WVOQ, I have good news for you, you are on the right track.

i beleive it is John 6:44 “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.”

Excuse the odd font, I had to look it up, to quote exactly

Any way it looks like the Holy Spirit is leading you to God.



You live in a worldly mind, which you should let go of, and trust in God, try to develope a personal relationship with him.


I have also seen alot of arguments against my religion, and have been able to withstand them all, and I myself have seen alot

I also know a devout Christian, who is a philosophy professor.


The Bible is a book that told of the earth being round and the universe expanding, before science ever knew these things.

It has hundreds of prophecies that have been fulfilled, some people will tell you they are subject to interpretation, that is merely heresay, I can think of at least one prophecy that was precisely fulfilled as prophecised, these prophecy was specific to the DAY, and YEAR, that it would happen.


But you do not need to necessarily live in logic, it is there, though, pleanty of logical reasons for an intelligent person to beleive in God, I reccomend looking up "venomfangx" and "thevinerhyme" on youtube, very intelligent Christians who refute alot of arguments.


Again, it is very natural for you to seek logical reasons to beleive in God, and that is not necessisarily a bad thing, but faith is more important than logic, but BOTH ARE FULLY THERE, you can trust in the Lord, that even without scientific evidence, but the evidence is there. With faith you can love God, and live a good life, with logic and reason you can evangelise, and defend your beleifs.

If you have any questions do not hesitate to approach me.
 
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I will share how I became a christian, I was raised in christian family and i read a lot books, all just not help much......what makes a christian is , later in my life, i met some real spiritual filled christians, and they prayed for me and I prayed myself, and i was touched by the spirit so i was saved till then.
For me it is the spirit touch to wake up me.

God leads each in different way, but for sure, if u seek, u will find.
 
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When you open up the Word of God, pray that the Lord will lead you through His Words, for without Him telling His Story with His Spirit, it is just a story. The Word of God is living and alive and well in the Spirit of God.

Ask God

Ask... Mt 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

Mt 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

Seek....

Mt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Knock

God is knocking on your heart... Let Him in.
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup [visit] with him, and he with me.

Search

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
 
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I agree that you are being drawn to God by the holy spirit. That's the state that you are in right now. Many of us believe that we need a supernatural experience like Paul to know that God is in our lives, but many times your relationship with God is going to be based on faith and trust. Don't forget also even when in circumstance God doesn't put his self out there, he has been doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes to bring you to your destiny in him. When you say, I'm going to open myself to Jesus Christ and see where it takes me, this when life truly begins. Not that you weren't living before, but your eyes and ears will begin to open spiritual and you are going to see things differently. As you start to spend time in the word and through prayer the spirit of God will make himself know to you. You have to do these things to get close to God. At this moment God is watching you to see if you will approach him genuinely. I can promise when you keep doing these things, you are going to come in a place where you know God is here. You will at times feel his presence and hear him. And God will speak to you because you have a relationship with him now. Faith brings God's physical manifestations in your life. But don't expect to always feel God or hear God because God is still there even if he seems silent. There's going to be a lot of those times to come. Take that first step. One small step leads to a giant step.
 
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I TRULY want to believe in an all-loving God, and that I will see all my loved ones again in Heaven. I can't even imagine the thought of getting married, and loving someone with all my heart, and losing them forever (I was reading the "Life Stages: widow/widowers section" and almost broke down crying). I am an atheist because I see no reason for believing in God's existence, and all rational arguments I have seen in favour of His existence are unsound (and as a philosophy student, believe me I've seen them all). I doubt strictly logical argumentaion will lead me to God, but then what? Despite the fact I am an atheist, I have prayed sincerely with all my heart, for a God to reveal himself to me, but I have never felt anything. This is all the more difficult for me because of my skeptical nature (practically anything short of seeing Jesus waving outside my window would leave me not wholly convinced). I mean people often say they "feel" God, but this is sort of unclear. There are many times when something nice happens to me, and I feel overwhelmed with emotion, but I don't think this counts as God's presence, because I could just as easily say it's some sort of brain process. If I could believe in God I feel I would be happy beyond words, so please, anyone who can help me, I would be forever grateful.
I'm praying for you as well. And I know God will answer your prayers, despite any doubts you might have. I too am a student of philosphy (though its been awhile) - there's nothing wrong with an inquiring mind and philosophers are by nature some of the most inquisitive. For what it's worth, that simply means you have to work a little harder for some answers, right? :)

There are a lot of good suggestions here and I would encourage you to sift through them as you need and continue your inquiry.

Something I would strongly urge you to do as well is get a Bible and start reading it as you pray. We are told in the book of Romans that "Faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ." The Bible is this word and it is the source of all of our faiths. If you would believe, it is imperative you spend time in His word. The Bible also says that God used to speak to His people through prophets, but that today He speaks to us through His Son (Jesus) - I would urge you then to pick up a Bible and start reading through the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John), read of Jesus and read His words and of the things He did, praying as you read for understanding. I would have you start in the gospel of Matthew - read it once, twice, three times. Take notes of any questions you might have - really read the text, question it, put yourself into the situations it describes and imagine interacting with Jesus yourself.

I would further urge you to find someone near you that knows the Bible and would be willing to study it with you, to give you some guidance as you read and who could answer any questions you might have. If you are uncomfortable or don't know of anyone like this, go to a church and ask the pastor or a teacher there to sit down with you and help you as you need.

A questioning mind is a good thing - God would have us reason together with Him about all the questions and doubts you are having. So go ahead, and give His word a try.

My prayers are with you. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him, whether you believe in Him now or not.

God bless!

P.S. Oh, and as you generate questions - please feel free to continue to ask as you already have. Just holler!
 
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