In Mark 16:16,the bible says:Whoever believes and is baptized,will be saved.But John3:16 says "whosover believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life."
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Yet another question about baptism.(sorry)
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Question1 One verse speaks of being saved throught believing and being baptized,but another speaks of just believing and being saved.If i believe He died for my ins and was resurrected three days after am i saved or not?
Question1 One verse speaks of being saved throught believing and being baptized,but another speaks of just believing and being saved.If i believe He died for my ins and was resurrected three days after am i saved or not?
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RestoreTheRiver
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The bible is not a collection of verses, to be taken in isolation. The clear message of the New Testament is that baptism is the norm, for reasons that several have outlined to you, more than once now.
Is there some reason you cannot be baptized? If so, God will honor the intent of your heart, until such time as you are free to do so. If not, why are you resistent to it?
If your question is "is it possible to be saved without baptism?" Yes, it is. Given that, why seek the minimum necessary? Why not enter into every Grace, every participation in the Life of God, that He offers to us?
Michael
Is there some reason you cannot be baptized? If so, God will honor the intent of your heart, until such time as you are free to do so. If not, why are you resistent to it?
If your question is "is it possible to be saved without baptism?" Yes, it is. Given that, why seek the minimum necessary? Why not enter into every Grace, every participation in the Life of God, that He offers to us?
Michael
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I have ben baptized before as you know,but my family is visiting churches around town and im also very shy to ask my parents if i can get baptized againi dont know why but im shy please pray for me.do you have to be a member of a church to be baptized?
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RestoreTheRiver
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I'd missed the fact that you've been baptized before. Baptism is not a sacrament that need be repeated. Just as Jesus died for our sins once, was burried, and rose again, so our participation in His death, burial, and resurrection is something that takes place once; and then, is lived into all of our lives.
If you wish to share it openly, why do you feel the need to be baptized again? If this is a question you've already answered, and I've missed it, I do apologize.
If it's not a question you wish to answer openly (and I do fully understand being shy, and holding things close to your heart) and, if you wish to do so, please feel free to PM me about this.
You have a heart after God, and I am praying for you.
Michael
If you wish to share it openly, why do you feel the need to be baptized again? If this is a question you've already answered, and I've missed it, I do apologize.
If it's not a question you wish to answer openly (and I do fully understand being shy, and holding things close to your heart) and, if you wish to do so, please feel free to PM me about this.
You have a heart after God, and I am praying for you.
Michael
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I would ask where were you Baptized? Some churches do not baptize in the name of the Triune God and such a "baptism" is not valid in the Christian Church. Knowing which church or by whom you were baptized would help answer the "rebaptism" question better.
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Elijah2
No weapons formed against me will prosper.
Well my dear young brother, put you togs on get to the church a get baptised again, then you won't have to worry about asking questions.
You are saved, and when you jump into the water, you will be rededicating your previous baptising.
Don't go searching for provisos.
You are saved, and when you jump into the water, you will be rededicating your previous baptising.
Don't go searching for provisos.
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heymikey80
Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur
Mmm, realize I'm talking much more deeply here about baptism, because it's such a "once for all" sacrament.
You see God hasn't given up on you. And it's actually more His vow as it is yours. He baptizes; you receive His baptism. He instituted Baptism a certain way to reflect His connection with you. I assure you, He hasn't broken covenant with you. So His action in baptism is completely intact. That means alot.
OK, so that's not the problem. Can we look at your side of this covenant with God, then? You probably feel worried about ignoring God. You want to rededicate yourself to Him, to learn about Him, to learn to love Him, grow closer to Him.
That's terrific. But can you see ... all that spiritual desire to grow near Him is from Someone inside you that God gave to you? He made an agreement with you to be your God. God -- the Spirit of God, inside you -- is moving in you to want God way more. You're sensitive to this gap because the Spirit is making you sensitive. And you're depending on His vow to be your God, to make you sensitive. What vow? His vow at baptism.
If you go through another Baptism, what does that really say about the Spirit of God in you? It tends to imply that you didn't have God before. It tends to imply that God didn't make the commitment and carry through on it for you. You're patching something that broke apart. When in reality God didn't break with you.
Now I know you don't mean what the actions imply; nothing of the sort. And it's not horrifically important. Many a pastor will rebaptize you just because you feel weak, and you want to be baptized. I'm saying it this way for a reason. As God grows you up so much stronger, you may well begin to worry in reverse about multiple baptisms. "Was that too many, did it offend the God of 'one faith, one baptism'?" Or on the other side you may wonder, "Did that baptism really help? Do I need another baptism?" It could skew you to get baptized every time God brings you out of sin in your life.
But God knows what your life's going to be like. And knowing every offense you commit, knowing everything about your life and your thoughts and your sin, in baptism God was saying, "I know the future -- and I'm committed to you through it all. Receive that commitment. Receive Me. We'll go through it together."
I want to relieve you from the worry, as I was relieved. He's always been there.
Take on something that may indeed be tougher for you, being shy: ask your parents about making a renewed public profession of faith. And are you receiving the Lord's Supper? If not, the church should admit you after a public profession of faith.
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Baptism is a work of God that is received by faith. Faith is a gift from God that requires no work or effort or even knowledge on our part. God can and does give His gift of faith to whom He wills, regardless of age.
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I've just been baptized recently... Yes, I know it's a weeee bit late (I'm not THAT old ok?)... And I do realise I'm spiritually an infant and I do make mistakes. I'm just going to share what I know the simple way. I'm born in a non-christian family. You're saved once you accept Jesus as your personal savior. Now about baptism, I assume it's water baptism. Even though we are saved, we're still bounded to our "old"selves. This old self could be your past, your sins and so on. Now this old self prevents you from fully facing down to God. And yeah, you can't face God when you're with sin. (Just imagine God closing His ears saying "lalalala" loudly when you pray)... When you're baptized, that old self is washed away, and you're now a new creation. Of course, the thing you should remember about baptism; it's a public declaration that you're a follower of the Savior Lord Jesus Christ. Even non-Christians are aware of this significance (which is why my family's gonna skin me, shiver).... Of course, it's only necessary to baptise once in your lifetime.... But if you feel insecure, feel free to be baptized again, although there really is no need of it if you've truly accepted Jesus as your personal Savior. Naturally, to me, I think a person should be old enough to choose... and understand baptism befor he/she is baptised.... Sorry if I've mistaken...
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But "accepting" and "choosing" are works that we do. We are not saved by any work that we do. It is totally and wholly the work of God in Christ. He chooses us. He accepts us.
Baptism is something that is done to us and for us by God, not by us.
For someone to say "get baptized again" would mean that God didn't get it right the first time, or the Holy Spirit didn't take and needs to be re-done.
Baptism is something that is done to us and for us by God, not by us.
For someone to say "get baptized again" would mean that God didn't get it right the first time, or the Holy Spirit didn't take and needs to be re-done.
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But even our faith is a gift from God. Eph 2:8-9.
God is not dependant on us for anything. It is we who are totally dependant upon Him for everything.
Baptism is done wholly by God.
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But where does our belief come from? It comes from God as a free gift. We do not need to "choose" or "accept". In fact, as naturally born sinners we are unable to "choose" or "accept" Christ. It is wholly by the grace of God that we believe. And the gift of faith is not dependant on anything we do. God gives His gift to who He wills, regardless of age or reason. Such things are not prerequisites at all, otherwise we could not call it grace.
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