False Translation of the word "homosexual" - 1 Cor 6:9

[davedjy]

Ah then thats another religion altogether, with a gay jesus and a gay bible and god. I reject that as Christian

I reject one that calls a gay person and their acts disgusting, and that they won't inherit the kingdom. That is not Christ-like!

 

[davedjy]

What havent I brought. Homosexuality is wrong, ever scripture you quoted is about giving your life to christ. You have quoted nothing about homosexuality. Isnt this a homosexuality debate? I think it is....So please bring some true facts about it to the table and not some bogus quotes of articles because thats all you can bring!

Prove something wrong from the Scriptures. You have confessed your ignorance on salvation and inheriting the kingdom!

 

[ILove2Worship]

I reject one that calls a gay person and their acts disgusting, and that they won't inherit the kingdom. That is not Christ-like!

Are you really Christ like???

 

[ILove2Worship]

Prove something wrong from the Scriptures. You have confessed your ignorance on salvation and inheriting the kingdom!

1 CORINTHIANS 6:9-10
it says what it says and means what it means and its straight out of the Bible. Not sugar coated and not changed. Its a sin to change the Bible and its a sin to analyze it. So read it learn something.

 

[davedjy]

But being homosexual that is null and void!

wow...

 

[ILove2Worship]

wow...

Uncover your eyes David because what you are living is a lie.

 

[davedjy]

Uncover your eyes David because what you are living is a lie.

There is not one condemnation of homosexuality as one’s innate sexual constitution in the Scriptures. In fact, any reputable Bible scholar will tell you that when the original manuscripts were written in the languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, in none of these languages did the word "homosexual," or any viable translation of the word, exist.

 

[davedjy]

Uncover your eyes David because what you are living is a lie.

FACT: Your sexual constitution has nothing to do with salvation.

Romans 10:9 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."

 

[ReformedChapin]

FACT: Your sexual constitution has nothing to do with salvation.

Romans 10:9 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."

You do realize that conversions must be genuine and of the spirit? Not just a simple quote?

 

[davedjy]

You do realize that conversions must be genuine and of the spirit? Not just a simple quote?

Explain a genuine conversion!

 

[brightmorningstar]

Dear Davedjy,

I reject one that calls a gay person and their acts disgusting, and that they won't inherit the kingdom. That is not Christ-like

You reject 'one' that calls a gay person and their acts disgusting then I would say you reject Jesus. Surely you mean you reject the teaching? No-one has said they reject any person as far as I can see.

but the scripture suggests that same-sex offenders will not inherit the Kingdom 1 Cor 6, Romans 1, 1 Tim 1, 2 Peter 2, Jude 1. You seem to be saying what is Christ like is the opposite of Christ.

 

[davedjy]

Dear Davedjy,


You reject 'one' that calls a gay person and their acts disgusting then I would say you reject Jesus. Surely you mean you reject the teaching? No-one has said they reject any person as far as I can see.

but the scripture suggests that same-sex offenders will not inherit the Kingdom 1 Cor 6, Romans 1, 1 Tim 1, 2 Peter 2, Jude 1. You seem to be saying what is Christ like is the opposite of Christ.

Read the myths and facts sheet, before posting scriptures, I know ALL of the clobber passages. You may wish to do some research before debating here, and especially with me.

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

http://gaychurch.org/Gay_and_Christian_YES/gay_and_christian_yes.htm

 

[PastorJim]

I believe it is not a false translation, but a closer one used by the translators to end liberal gay interpratations and put an end to the debate.



I think I will trust the translators before I will trust relativist 21st century gay sages with my salvation.

I agree. I've seen this argument before and there doesn't seem to be any substance to it.

It seems to be a case of "defining deviancy down", as Bill Bennett would say.

It's like they say "we don't like what the Bible says so let's just say that it really means something else."

 

[brightmorningstar]

Dear Davedjy,

Read the myths and facts sheet, before posting scriptures, I know ALL of the clobber passages. You may wish to do some research before debating here, and especially with me.

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

http://gaychurch.org/Gay_and_Christi...istian_yes.htm

Yes those links have faulty theology and disbelief... Try for example
http://www.robgagnon.net/

Davedjy, I have given you the text and the words and what the words mean. These meanings are accepted by scholars. You have falied to debate. I am not interested in parrot fashion denial with insults. The clobber passages is your interpretation, they tell you you are clobbered.
For me there is no condmenation in Christ Jesus and bur for Christ Jesus and recongising the sin He has saved me from I am alos clobbered.

 

[PastorJim]

You may wish to do some research before debating here, and especially with me.

Perhaps you meant to say "especially with the cut and pastes I'm posting here".

Might I encourage you to read what the book of Proverbs has to say about such foolish boasting before you say things like this?

 

[davedjy]

Dear Davedjy,
Yes those links have faulty theology and disbelief... Try for example
http://www.robgagnon.net/


try

Faulty theology? you have yet to disprove ONE myth on that fact sheet. Prove one wrong. Prove this wrong:

FACT: There is not one condemnation of homosexuality as one’s innate sexual constitution in the Scriptures. In fact, any reputable Bible scholar will tell you that when the original manuscripts were written in the languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, in none of these languages did the word "homosexual," or any viable translation of the word, exist.

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

 

[davedjy]

Perhaps you meant to say "especially with the cut and pastes I'm posting here".

Might I encourage you to read what the book of Proverbs has to say about such foolish boasting before you say things like this?

FACT: There is not one condemnation of homosexuality as one’s innate sexual constitution in the Scriptures. In fact, any reputable Bible scholar will tell you that when the original manuscripts were written in the languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, in none of these languages did the word "homosexual," or any viable translation of the word, exist.

http://www.opendoorcenter.com/myths_&_facts.htm

 

[MercyBurst]

Dear Davedjy,


You reject 'one' that calls a gay person and their acts disgusting then I would say you reject Jesus. Surely you mean you reject the teaching? No-one has said they reject any person as far as I can see.

but the scripture suggests that same-sex offenders will not inherit the Kingdom 1 Cor 6, Romans 1, 1 Tim 1, 2 Peter 2, Jude 1. You seem to be saying what is Christ like is the opposite of Christ.

Hello Bright Morning Star. Peter says there is no need to worry.

II Peter Chapter 1:

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
spake Matt 22:43

There IS NO private interpretation to scripture. That is the FIRST thing to know. The rest is easy.

That's why we agree with each other. And God did the talking -- make no mistake about it.

Gotta have the Holy Spirit to read it right otherwise you just hear a lot of vain chattering. Get the drift?

Peace and good day to you.

 

[davedjy]

Perhaps you meant to say "especially with the cut and pastes I'm posting here".

I post the copy and pastes, because I post a lot a day! it saves my hands from typing. What do you want to know?

do you want to know about Leviticus and how it was an idolatry ceremonial violation? what about Romans 1 being a temple prostitution violation that included both homosexual and heterosexual orgies? What about Jude talking about strange flesh, when that was talking about raping the angels. Strange means "heteros" in the Greek, which is "another flesh". How about 1 Cor 6:9 being a false translation of a Greek word?

Yes, Pastor Jim, I know the original Hebrew and Greek, so what is that you were talking about with Proverbs again? I guess you should read that verse yourself.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Dear Mercyburst,
The scripture and the Spirit agree, you are right the Holy Spirit reminds us of what Jesus taught, the scripture tells us Jesus pronised that.