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[srev2004]

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Reduction of Gravitational Intensity in Square ratio (G = mm/d2) to distance is owing to Solar Repulsion force. Otherwise, this would be G = mm/d. The mass of the Sun is 99.85 percent of the Solar System. If the Sun really exerted force of Gravitation, then, all Planets with their Satellites and rest bodies of the System should have collapsed into the Sun with the beginning of the Solar-System billions of years ago. Centrifugal is fictitious force having no existence. Therefore, the existence of the Solar System itself proves the Sun exert REPULSION. This is SOLAR REPULSION FORCE.

http://www.strepulsion.org/sunexertssolar.htm

[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] The confused Science World derived TWO FICTITIOUS FACTORS to counterbalance assumed SOLAR GRAVITATIONAL FORCE and these two are
(1) INERTIAL FORCE and
(2) CENTRIFUGAL FORCE.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] Now about 50% of the Science World believes that INERTIAL FORCE OF THE EARTH (OR PLANETS) COUNTERBALANCES SOLAR GRAVITATIONAL FORCE, SO THE EARTH (OR PLANETS) REMAIN IN ORBIT and about 50% of the Science World believes that CENTRIFUGAL FORCE OF THE EARTH (OR PLANETS) COUNTER BALANCES SOLAR GRAVITATIONAL FORCE, SO THE EARTH (OR PLANETS) REMAIN IN ORBIT.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] This difference in belief is not enough. Both are opposing each other which is clearly stated in the most authentic Book on Space Science of NASA titled “Source Book on the Space Science” – Page 44: [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“The ability of Planet to remain in orbit around the Sun is owing to Gravitational pull of the Sun and CENTRIFUGAL FORCE of the planetary body (The Centrifugal force resulted by orbital motion). THE CENTRIFUGAL FORCE counterbalances Gravitational pull of the Sun. So, Planets remain in orbits.”
This concept is believed by most of Scientists and stated in Books. NASA rejects the above concept:[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“Above statement is wrong. CENTRIFUGAL FORCE is fictitious Force having no existence. “Centrifugal Force” is simply and purely hypothetical. In reality, it is Gravitational pull of the Sun and INERTIA (Inertial Force) OF PLANETS keep planets in orbits around the Sun. That is the INERTIAL FORCE COUNTERBALANCES Solar Gravitational force, so, Planets remain in orbits”[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“If Centrifugal concept is to be retained, it should be referred to as the Centrifugal effect (not force) arising from the INERTIA of a body travelling in a circular path”.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] In reality, above both statements are wrong. INERTIAL FORCE and CENTRIFUGAL FORCE, both are fictitious products of confused human mind, which compelled to imagine for framing the Solar System and its dynamics within Newton’s Law of Gravitation. In the ultimate reality, Newton’s Law of Universal Gravitation is wrong and so are INERTIA and CENTRIFUGAL concepts.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] According to the Ultimate Reality of the Universe (URU), and as per Classical Science ACTION BY FORCE should be followed as below:
(1) If there exist MUTUAL GRAVITATION between the Sun and Planets, then, all Planets should fall into the Sun owing to nearness and owing huge mass of the Sun (99.85% of the Solar-System).
(2) If there exist MUTUAL REPULSION between the Sun and Planets, then, all Planets should flung away in space, ending the Solar System.
(3) But if the SUN exerts REPULSION FORCE and PLANETS exert GRAVITATIONAL FORCE, then, the SUN REPELS Planets while Planets ATTRACTS the Sun. Therefore, both reverse forces mutually counterbalance each other at ORBITAL DISTANCES and Planets should remain at mean constant distance from the Sun in their orbits.[/FONT]

 

[srev2004]

ur turn *yawn* *taps his feet* *leaves for bed*

 

[TemperateSeaIsland]

Tell me if this [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Solar Repulsion force [/FONT]was real why aren't NASA using it when navigating probes through the solar sytem?

 

[MrGoodBytes]

srev,

western science works. Airplanes, cars, X-rays, nuclear reactors, electric guitars, the internet - everything on this list and a million more was made possible solely by the "western" science you claim is fundamentally flawed.


Vedic science has nothing. I repeat, nothing.

 

[arunma]

srev,

western science works. Airplanes, cars, X-rays, nuclear reactors, electric guitars, the internet - everything on this list and a million more was made possible solely by the "western" science you claim is fundamentally flawed.


Vedic science has nothing. I repeat, nothing.

Ironically, I told him the same thing several pages ago.

 

[vedickings]

srev,

western science works. Airplanes, cars, X-rays, nuclear reactors, electric guitars, the internet - everything on this list and a million more was made possible solely by the "western" science you claim is fundamentally flawed.


Vedic science has nothing. I repeat, nothing.

Western science is the study of nature (materialism). Vedic science is the direct experience of nature (spiritualism).

 

[arunma]

Western science is the study of nature (materialism). Vedic science is the direct experience of nature (spiritualism).

Wrong on both counts. So-called "Western" science is the only science. Vedic pseudoscience is a joke. Just try bringing this garbage into a real academic setting and see what happens.

 

[srev2004]

Wrong on both counts. So-called "Western" science is the only science. Vedic pseudoscience is a joke. Just try bringing this garbage into a real academic setting and see what happens.

I'm talking about Western physics.... It's flawed.

If our solar system has one unit of mass. The sun occupies .9985 of it. What is keeping us from falling into the sun. Explain this and I will agree that western physics is not flawed.

srev,

western science works. Airplanes, cars, X-rays, nuclear reactors, electric guitars, the internet - everything on this list and a million more was made possible solely by the "western" science you claim is fundamentally flawed.


Vedic science has nothing. I repeat, nothing.

Just because it works for things we invent, doesn't mean it's universally applicable. 20 years ago the bohr model worked for us.... Now it doesn't and it was part of western physics.

Arunma you still haven't explained any of my questions. How can a photon have momentum with no mass. Momentum = mass * veloctiy. Momentum is defined by the idea that an object with a mass traveling at a speed.

http://web.mit.edu/varun_ag/www/bose_real_inventor.pdf

And western scientists are also well known for their plagiarizing of Indian scientists. here is an article from MIT where this is showcased.

Bose was the real inventor of wireless not Marconi. Ever heard of Bose speakers?

Well tell me then, you still haven't explained why we're not going straight into the sun? How can a photon have momentum? How can light "carry" particles and still go at the speed of light?

I mean it's pretty flawed if you ask me.

Tell me if this [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Solar Repulsion force [/FONT]was real why aren't NASA using it when navigating probes through the solar sytem?

Strepulsion forces have been discovered in 2005. Being influenced by Vedic science. It usually takes any organization well over 4-5 generations to perfect a technology. There is already a US firm working on utilizing strepulsion forces. Ever heard of solar sails?

 

[srev2004]

The fact that I am able to keep a conversation with physics major should speak for the depth of vedic science. Arunma you still haven't proved anything I say.

 

[vedickings]

Wrong on both counts. So-called "Western" science is the only science. Vedic pseudoscience is a joke. Just try bringing this garbage into a real academic setting and see what happens.

Oh, so you disagree with western science being the study of the physical world, (nature)?

 

[arunma]

I'm talking about Western physics.... It's flawed.

If our solar system has one unit of mass. The sun occupies .9985 of it. What is keeping us from falling into the sun. Explain this and I will agree that western physics is not flawed.

You don't seem to understand how gravity works. Gravity is precisely what makes the earth orbit the Sun. It's called uniform circular motion, and it's understood perfectly. The earth doesn't fall into the Sun for precisely the same reason that projectiles move in parabolic trajectories.

Arunma you still haven't explained any of my questions. How can a photon have momentum with no mass. Momentum = mass * veloctiy. Momentum is defined by the idea that an object with a mass traveling at a speed.

Actually I already have; you just don't believe in science. I already told you that your definition of momentum is incorrect. Momentum has a more generalized relativistic definition.

Well tell me then, you still haven't explained why we're not going straight into the sun? How can a photon have momentum? How can light "carry" particles and still go at the speed of light?

Again, as I already told you, light doesn't "carry" anything.

I mean it's pretty flawed if you ask me.

In case you didn't notice, no one asked you. Your ideas would never be taken seriously by real scientists.

Strepulsion forces have been discovered in 2005. Being influenced by Vedic science. It usually takes any organization well over 4-5 generations to perfect a technology. There is already a US firm working on utilizing strepulsion forces. Ever heard of solar sails?

First of all, solar sails work because of the solar wind. Secondly, the solar wind has nothing to do with your fake "strepulsion force." And finally, the solar wind was discovered much earlier than 2005.

The fact that I am able to keep a conversation with physics major should speak for the depth of vedic science. Arunma you still haven't proved anything I say.

Wow, you really don't know how ignorant you sound, do you? Do you really think you're holding a serious conversation with me? I feel as though I'm trying to convince a person that if he has two apples and gets three more, he'll end up with five. Thus far you've demonstrated a lack of understanding on such topics as quantum mechanics, classical dynamics, celestial mechanics, and (of all things) gravity. What concerns me here is that you seem to not realize how foolish you sound.

Don't believe me? Go peddle your ideas on the creation/evolution board and see what happens. Given the recent upsurge in Hindu scientific ignorance on this board, I already started a thread on the topic yesterday. Go ahead; propose your Vedic "science" ideas and see what others think.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Western science is the study of nature (materialism). Vedic science is the direct experience of nature (spiritualism).

Demonstrate me the existence of the spiritual, how it can be measured, predicted and altered etc. and you might have a point.

Just because it works for things we invent, doesn't mean it's universally applicable. 20 years ago the bohr model worked for us.... Now it doesn't and it was part of western physics.

The Bohr model isn't wrong on all counts, it works quite well with some specific problems. Anyway, would you deny that the theoretical foundation of combustion engines are universally applicable?

 

[TemperateSeaIsland]

Strepulsion forces have been discovered in 2005. Being influenced by Vedic science. It usually takes any organization well over 4-5 generations to perfect a technology. There is already a US firm working on utilizing strepulsion forces. Ever heard of solar sails?

Your missing my point, if this Strepulsion force was such a powerful phenomena withing the solar system (holding planets in their orbits no less) why can NASA launch and navigate probes through the solar system without taking this force into account? The answer is quite simple, this force doesn't exist.

 

[srev2004]

Demonstrate me the existence of the spiritual, how it can be measured, predicted and altered etc. and you might have a point.


The Bohr model isn't wrong on all counts, it works quite well with some specific problems. Anyway, would you deny that the theoretical foundation of combustion engines are universally applicable?

yep, they don't work in a place without oxygen. They won't work in a place without an atmosphere. They won't work if the density of the air being combusted is significantly higher or lower.

They won't work in certain temperatures.... So yes I'm saying our science only applies to our Earth.

Western physics is wrong, wrong, wrong...

How can a photon have momentum...... How can a glass box gain weight if you seal light in it? Explain it.....

Last time I checked gravity is a linear force. Linear forces create linear trajectories unless there is a pivot point. There is no pivot point in space, the Earth is floating around.

Arunma, objects move in parabolic trajectories if they are ballistics with Uniform acceleration with a initial velocity in the X and Y component, if you are looking at a two dimensional axis.

How did the Earth, and in that case all the other planets, obtain the velocity to get orbital. How were they able to stabilize themselves in a way that they have the right velocity to be constantly falling towards the sun, but never get there?

Remember there are two outside forces working on the Earth except the sun, and these are variable since they change position and vectors. The force of the Moon, the force of other planets and finally the force of the Sun. This is not a constant acceleration because as the Earth moves away from other planets, their forces go down, hence the net acceleration is in a different vector and in a different magnitude. You can't hold a ballistic trajectory if your net forces are changing. And if the net force is changing the velocity and acceleration of the object will change. If the velocity changes then the Earth will either overshoot or under shoot it's trajectory path. hence either leaving the Sun's gravity or collapsing into it.

When you look at the Earth as part of our solar system, the solar system's center of mass is never in a constant place.

You can't be a satellite with a non constant acceleration. How do you think we put satellites into orbit. We launch them into a trajectory which allows them to be constantly falling towards the Earth, but never be able to reach the Earth.

Now explain how the Earth is maintaining it's distance when forces other than the Sun act upon it.

Your missing my point, if this Strepulsion force was such a powerful phenomena withing the solar system (holding planets in their orbits no less) why can NASA launch and navigate probes through the solar system without taking this force into account? The answer is quite simple, this force doesn't exist.

As the atom is balanced by Repulsion and attractional forces, accordingly, the solar system, Binary systems, galaxies - entire universe is balanced by repulsion and gravitational forces and follows sphericasl motion by retraction force.

We assume it's inertia. Gravity is opposing strepulsion. It's like cycling on a treadmill. No matter how much you tread, you're in the same place. unless you learn how to utilize the strepulsion forces.

So you agree that solar winds exist Arunma. How does the wind get created? It's through a strepulsion force. And if it was fraud, why would MIT and Harvard have conferences on it?

(1) ANTI-SOLAR EJECTION OF SOLAR WIND is by SRF. (2) ANTI-SOLAR DEFLECTION OF COMET'S TAIL is by SRF.
(3) ANTI-SOLAR DEFLECTION OF MAGNETOSPHERE OF PLANETS is by SRF.
(4) HIGHER OCEAN TIDES ON FULL MOON MIDNIGHT THAN ON NEW MOON MIDDAY are owing to repelled hydraulic mass by SRF at day zone of the earth.
(5) ANTI-SOLAR RADIATION CURVE OF STAR RAY IN VICINITY OF THE SUN is by SRF.
(6) RETARDATION OF GALACTIC COSMIC RADIATION inside the Solar System during Active Solar period is owing to intensive SRF.
(7) DISPERSION OF GALACTIC COSMIC PARTICLES from equatorial region of the earth towards polar region is by high intensity of SRF at equatorial region.
(8) RADIATION OF LIGHT, HEAT and COSMIC PARTICLES from the Sun is by SRF.
(9) OFF-SOLAR EJECTION OF ELECTROMAGNETIC PARTICLES from the Sunspots during Active Solar period is by high intensity SRF.
(10) OFF-SOLAR TRANSMISSION OF HEAT from Photosphere of the Sun towards Corona is by SRF. Owing this transmission, the temperature of the Solar surface is only about 6000°K while temperature of Corona exceeds a million degree K.
(11) EJECTION OF GIANT HOT PLASMA CLOUDS from the Sun during active Solar period is by intensive SRF.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

yep, they don't work in a place without oxygen. They won't work in a place without an atmosphere. They won't work if the density of the air being combusted is significantly higher or lower.

They won't work in certain temperatures.... So yes I'm saying our science only applies to our Earth.

You have got to be kidding me.

 

[srev2004]

You have got to be kidding me.

Without oxygen there is no combustion.

Combustion is a chemical reaction which requires a fuel (gas) to be turned into gas. This requires fire. Without oxygen you cannot have fire in a combustion engine. Ever put a glass over a candle before.....?

 

[srev2004]

Anyone except Arunma have any points to raise. He doesn't like to answer my questions.

Flaw #1) How does a photon have momentum according to western physics and have no mass? Momentum = mass * velocity

Flaw #2)And how can light have energy? E=mc^2

If there is no mass, energy will also be zero.

Flaw #3) When the net force in a system is constantly changing vectors and magnitude on an object, how can it stay in an orbit which requires constant acceleration. If you understand basic ballistics you should understand this.

Point #1 in Solar Winds)
A solar wind is a stream of charged particles (i.e., a plasma) which are ejected from the upper atmosphere of a star.

Point #2 in Strepulsion)
Stars project repulsion forces due to thermonuclear reactions. Some thing as small as a probe we sent out into space is constantly under these forces and relative to us, it is acting the same way. But when you look at it through the whole system, strepulsion is acting upon it.

 

[arunma]

You have got to be kidding me.

Yeah, now you feel my pain. How do you have an intelligent conversation with someone who asks unintelligent questions? This isn't intended as a "schoolyard taunt" to Srev. Questioning basic, universally agreed facts isn't an intelligent thing to do. Even creationists aren't this insane.

Incidentally Sravan, MIT and Harvard don't hold conferences on fake science like strepulsion.

 

[RealityCheck]

srev - I advise you take some basic physics courses before you mouth off about physics being wrong.

 

[RealityCheck]

Anyone except Arunma have any points to raise. He doesn't like to answer my questions.

Flaw #1) How does a photon have momentum according to western physics and have no mass? Momentum = mass * velocity

Momentum also equals the product of Planck's constant h, multiplied by the photon's frequency, divided by the speed of light c.

[qutoe]

Flaw #2)And how can light have energy? E=mc^2

If there is no mass, energy will also be zero.
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Incorrect. Energy of a photon is based on its frequency as well.

Look, Einstein demonstrated all of this nearly a century ago, and he won a Nobel prize for it. The experiment he conducted can and has been repeated numerous times. It works. Repeatedly saying "it's unpossible" doesn't make it so.

Flaw #3) When the net force in a system is constantly changing vectors and magnitude on an object, how can it stay in an orbit which requires constant acceleration. If you understand basic ballistics you should understand this.

*sigh* You really don't even understand basic Newtonian mechanics, do you? Acceleration is NOT purely a change in speed, it also constitutes (or can constitute) a change in DIRECTION. That is because Acceleration is "change in velocity" - and velocity has two components, magnitude and direction. Change magnitude, that's acceleration. Change direction, also acceleration. Change both, also acceleration. Got that? If you don't, I REALLY SUGGEST YOU TAKE A PHYSICS CLASS!

Point #1 in Solar Winds)
A solar wind is a stream of charged particles (i.e., a plasma) which are ejected from the upper atmosphere of a star.

Point #2 in Strepulsion)
Stars project repulsion forces due to thermonuclear reactions. Some thing as small as a probe we sent out into space is constantly under these forces and relative to us, it is acting the same way. But when you look at it through the whole system, strepulsion is acting upon it.

No. Mass attracts mass, plain and simple. Electric charges attract or repel, and that's a separate force. Strong nuclear force is attractive.

Again - if you haven't actually studied the physics, then you really don't have much place trying to defy it.