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is the Bible a history book?
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Are you against the people who wants to remove God from everything but curse God if anything like 9/11 happens?
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no im not one of theoes people.
Im just trying to understand, if the Bible is use as a history book or not.
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Actually, the Bible was used as a history book in American schools until relatively recently (don't quote me, but I think this secular shift occured about fifty years ago). Obviously, the Bible would not be a viable textbook in modern times, when many people consider religious books to be offensive. But there was a time not to long ago in American history when Bible study was the status quo in public schools.
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I never saw the Bible used as a text book in school by itself and i was in public school in the 1940's and fifties in US Progressive Education was in vogue...but I would think church schools might use the Bible as a textbook maybe.
The Bible can be studied though as literature and there are some good University level courses on it...and should be included in Western Civilization courses to bettere understand the culture.
The Bible is also a record over a thousand years or so and has been important to study and reflect on... It is part oif the spiritual heritage of mankind.
The concept of history I think was developed by the view that there was a creation and an end of time or apocalypse rather than viewing time as a cycle.
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The Bible can be studied though as literature and there are some good University level courses on it...and should be included in Western Civilization courses to bettere understand the culture.
The Bible is also a record over a thousand years or so and has been important to study and reflect on... It is part oif the spiritual heritage of mankind.
The concept of history I think was developed by the view that there was a creation and an end of time or apocalypse rather than viewing time as a cycle.
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You are arguing fallaciously by thinking that if the Bible was true, then it should be used as a history book in schools since it would contain historical facts. This angle presupposes that all books including historical accounts are to be classified as history books for teaching students, for example. Some books simply contain historical facts while their purpose is not one of historical significance. The proper way of seeing what I mean is by understanding that if the Bible is true, it should have accurate historical information in it, but the historical aspects of it should not be placed in front of its primary objective, which is to teach us about God.
I think that this example will certainly clear things up considerably. The Qu'ran is said by some modern Muslims to be a book of scientific facts. Now if this were true, then according to your outlook, it should be placed in schools and taught as perhaps science 101. The problem with that is that it is void of a scientific context since it objective is concerning a relationship with God. The language itself would allow us to mix sulfuric acid and sodium hydroxide and obtain hydrogen sulfate and water as a product.
The more correct thing to say regarding the Bible is that is contains historical facts, and that is as far as we should go. We should be able to use it as a historical reference though, since it would speak historical truth.
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How can they be proved wrong? Since everytime they are, they are said to be "metaphorical".
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I am talking about the History part in Bible, I don't think anybody will claim below verses as "metaphorical"
Dan 1:1 In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim king of Judah, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came to Jerusalem and besieged it.
Dan 1:2 And the Lord delivered Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, along with some of the articles from the temple of God. These he carried off to the temple of his god in Babylonia and put in the treasure house of his god
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What about the verses of Adam and Eve, Noah and others of the like?
Karma2Grace,
Just because a story uses people/events from history, it doesn't mean that it actually happened. Take a story like Candide for example... it talks about the characters being around the time of the inquisitions... does that mean that Candide, Pangloss and Cunegund really existed?
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Perhaps, but we have enough history and science books in school I think.
But if one wants to read a biography about the "Life of the Lamb", it could be of interest to either Christians or non-Christians just as the Koran is a biography of Muhammad and his people. Thoughts?
Jhn 1:29 The next day 1887 John 2491 seeth 991 Jesus 2424 coming 2064 unto 4314 him 846, and 2532 saith 3004 , Behold 2396 the Lamb 286 of God 2316, which 3588 taketh away 142 the sin 266 of the world 2889.
http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/lb/LB1.htm
(Rev. 13:1,8). According to the Emphatic Diaglott the correct rendering of the latter part of this passage is: "The Book of the Life of the Lamb." Now, what is meant by this term – THE BOOK OF THE LIFE OF THE LAMB? The wise man said, "...of the making of many books there is no end..." (Eccl. 12:12)............
...................There is a branch of literature known as biography. Biographies are the histories of individual lives, an account of a person's life, written or told by another. If the author of the book is the person about whom it is written it is called an autobiography – the story of one's own life written by oneself. The Book of Life is called "The Book of The Life of The Lamb." If I were to give you a book entitled THE BOOK OF THE LIFE OF GEORGE WASHINGTON, you would understand at once that it is a biography or an autobiography of the life of the first president of the United States, George Washington. ...................
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That depends the people you are asking, I believe they are historical and nobody disproved their existance..
It is apparent that Daniel was recorded during the time of actual events not after all the details revealed
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Nobody? Tell that to science...
There was no first man because man evolved.
Noah's story is just that, a story because the DNA of all males do not match to that of Noah's...
Ha! The book of Daniel is a book written after the fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Daniel
Secular scholars however, believe that the prophecy better fits the reign of Antiochus, and that it is an example of vaticinium ex eventu (prophecy after the fact).
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That's a belief not science.
Do we have noah's DNA?
I know these 'secular' scholars (singing the song that the media want to hear).
For the sake of argument , Let us consider it was written at 150 BC, Still it is impossible to be accurate without the help of archeology/science or God
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That is possible.Originally Posted by 0rion
Ha! The book of Daniel is a book written after the fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Daniel
Secular scholars however, believe that the prophecy better fits the reign of Antiochus, and that it is an example of vaticinium ex eventu (prophecy after the fact).
http://www.awitness.org/lostmess/daniel.html
The book of Daniel has become important to Christian theology because the gospel of Mark made constant reference to the book, calling Christ the son of man, and because Mark wrote an apocalypse borrowing the image of the Beast of Daniel's prophecy, which would appear again later in the Christian Apocalypse, the Book of Revelations. For this reason you often hear that Daniel predicted the rise of the Revived Roman empire, but an examination proves that the prophecy in the Book of Daniel can be dated to the time of Antiochus the Selucid Greek beast of Daniel's prophecy. The only reason there is a need to 'revive' someone is that prophecy turned out to be false in that the last few verses never came true.
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