Aliens

[Space]

I'm just curious, does the Bible have anything to say about aliens? If it does, then what does it say about them?

And no, I'm not talking about foreigners (or strangers) from other parts of the world. Space aliens!

 

[Mrs12bfishin]

I've never come across or heard of any verses regarding space aliens. Interesting question though.

 

[dvd_holc]

Nothing, some have said that the Ezekiel 1 suggest alien ufo...however, Ezekiel 1 has to be taken within context that it was in. The picture is a chariot. A chariot was a portable throne for pharoah. In this case, Ezekiel 1 was the portable throne of God. Likewise also, the description in Ezekiel 1 parallels the temple and accounts written of in Torah when Moses went up on the mountain. The same picture exist in Revelations. Finally, the coded language used gave specific imagery of God and not aliens.

Why are you concerned with the what if aliens?

 

[Calminian]

I'm just curious, does the Bible have anything to say about aliens? If it does, then what does it say about them?

And no, I'm not talking about foreigners (or strangers) from other parts of the world. Space aliens!

Is there something you're trying to tell us?

 

[Space]

Is there something you're trying to tell us?

Like what?

 

[Calminian]

Like what?

n/m. poor attempt at humor.

Some christians feel the existence of life on other planets is precluded by scripture, particularly because of Gen. 3:20. Personally I think that's a stretch as that passage must be understood to include only human beings. Eve is certainly not the mother of all living creatures even on earth. We are told in the Bible that angels live in the heavens.

Eph. 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Angels are often called stars.

If there are beings of flesh and blood in outer-space I don't see, as of yet, any verse that would contradict this. I highly doubt it, but don't see it as an impossibility.

Interestingly, I do believe in UFO's. But their characteristics seem to resemble spiritual or angellic creatures more than physical ones. They are often described in ways that resemble poltergeists rather than alien astronauts. From their smells to the movements, etc., the similarities are quite amazing. They are even channeled by clairvoyants! So there are beings in the heavens, it’s just a question of their actual nature. I think the heavens were primarily made for angelic creatures. That's my take as of today.

 

[Rafael]

The Bible says that God made the universe and all that is in it to show us who He is - just for us.
The Bible does say that the devil, a very powerful created being given life and power by God, led 1/3 of the angels in a rebellion against God and they were thrown down to earth before even the time Adam and Eve appeared.
Genesis 6 gives and account of how the generations of Noah were "perfect" and the times were when the devils angels mated with women in an attempt to possibly prevent the birth of the Messiah by corrupting the gene pool of man that would lead to His birth. The Nephilim were born of man and angels and were said to be giants on the earth.
The devil still is the "prince of the power of the air" and is also the "father of all liars" and deceit. Could abductions and the harvesting of reproductive cells be another attempt by satan to deceive the world one last time when his power of evil is at a pinnacle? I would be very suspicious of an alien landing, that it might be just another of the devils staged tricks upon mankind to get them to follow him over the edge of the clift. He will even eventually try to say he is the Messiah, claiming all power for himself, and we have been warned that the arrival of the true Messiah will not be missed by any. We are not to go into the desert when people say He is there or somewhere else.
Chuck Misslar has some articles on this subject at his site, and Partrick Heron's book, "The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocolypse", has have some very interesting reading, IMO....

 

[Space]

The Bible does say that the devil, a very powerful created being given life and power by God, led 1/3 of the angels in a rebellion against God and they were thrown down to earth before even the time Adam and Eve appeared.

Where are the 1/3 of the angels that went into rebellion against God, today? What caused them to go in rebellion and the other 2/3 of the angels not to? Did Satan attempt to deceive the 2/3 of the angels that didn't go into rebellion just like he did with the 1/3 of the angels that did go into rebellion?

 

[Robinsegg]

First, the OP: I don't know if there are aliens. I do know that if they're there, God made them and put them there.

Second: There's lots of debate about the Nephilim and who the sons of God were and who the daughters of men were. Many believe the sons of God were the descendents of Seth, while the daughters of men were the descendents of Cain.

Third: Satan simply decided he wanted to take God's place. He led 1/3 of the angels, anyway (as an archangel along with Gabriel and Michael). I don't believe there is a breakdown of the numbers in Scripture, but they may simply have been following orders (even knowing it was wrong).

Rachel

 

[izarya]

Chuck Misslar has some articles on this subject at his site, and Partrick Heron's book, "The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocolypse", has have some very interesting reading, IMO....

Oh boy, not that again.
Aliens created the neanderthal and cro-magnum man, etc, etc,...

I believe that the Bible cleans up all this confusion rather neatly, the only problem is that it is taken way out of context by most, or some when they do get close to understanding, take a wrong turn somewhere (usually at Kookamonga) and end up totally lost.
I do agree with you though, it is some INTERESTING reading. I exchange emails with a man who has written extensively on the subject so I'm quite familiar with it.

 

[izarya]

Where are the 1/3 of the angels that went into rebellion against God, today?

Have you ever read the Goetia?

 

[dvd_holc]

where are the fallen angels?

Heaven, earth, and hell....God uses some fallen angels to test humans. In hell, they are tormented.

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When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were
so violent that no one could pass that way.
29"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"​

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[Space]

Have you ever read the Goetia?

Never heard of it. What does it say about them?

 

[sinner/SAVED]

I have heard some folks who thought that this verse may indicate beings on other worlds, but I think He was just talking about Gentiles:

Joh 10:16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.

 

[Space]

where are the fallen angels?

Heaven, earth, and hell....God uses some fallen angels to test humans. In hell, they are tormented.

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When he arrived at the other side in the region of the Gadarenes, two demon-possessed men coming from the tombs met him. They were
so violent that no one could pass that way.
29"What do you want with us, Son of God?" they shouted. "Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?"​

Are the angels who pour out the seven bowls of God's wrath, in Revelation, ome of God's angels or some of the fallen angels?

 

[izarya]

I have heard some folks who thought that this verse may indicate beings on other worlds, but I think He was just talking about Gentiles:

Joh 10:16And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.

I always took that to be speaking of future generations... like us here today who were not present with him then.

 

[izarya]

Never heard of it. What does it say about them?

Here is something on the subject though it's a pretty long read.

This is a link to the Goetia, also accredited to king Solomon.

 

[dvd_holc]

Are the angels who pour out the seven bowls of God's wrath, in Revelation, ome of God's angels or some of the fallen angels?

There are specific angels in Revelations at are marked as being evil. But the ones that poured out wrath, blow trumphets, and such...weren't necessarily evil.

For instance, in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah were holy angels who poured out wrath. Likewise, 2 Kings 185,000 men were killed by one angel. Now, the angels of the Lord don't tempt people, nor do they possess people to do evilness. It is the angels of sin that posses people, tempt, and so on...

 

[Rafael]

I'm not particularly interested in believing in Aliens, but I do believe the devil still is up to his old tricks and there is nothing wrong with speculating upon what history shows us along with the Bible which gives us good hints even though not all the info on the Nephilim. Now the link to read a little about this topic I will post, but you should read for yourself before scoffing too much. Something is obviously happening to make people believe they are abducted by UFOs and even the astronauts have given specific testimony about UFO encounters.
"Sons of God", translated from the Hebrew, always means "angels". Check out Job 1:6; 2:1, and 38:7. The New Testament - Luke 20:36, according to Chuck Misslar. Luke 20:36 says that angels cannot be given to marriage, but that is when they are in their natural state - not the fallen state of the angels that followed satan in the rebellion described in Revelations.
Revelations 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The superhuman offspring between these angels, the Nephilim, who according to Enoch, quoted by Jude, now wait in chains (Jude 1:6) for judgment. See 2Peter 2:4, also.
Nephilim - "the fallen ones"; also HaiGibborim - "the mighty ones", as Genesis says they were mighty among men like giants physically and renown in deeds of strength. History considers many of these varied accounts as merely myth, occuping the same time frames, in many cases, as those accounts in the Bible. Greek mythology and the Bible speak of men over 10 foot tall. Also, who built these ancient monuments we see scattered around the world with such astromomical precision? I don't think the Bible wants us to major on these things, but leaves it to us to have faith that God is in control, and we should at least be able to give an answer that does not narrow out the power of such beings desribed in the Bible. The Bible says that the lasts days will see a people full of religion but denying the power of God and His word. The devil is to be respected as a powerful being able to deceive the whole world, and even the angels would not bring charge against him, asking that God Himself rebuke his works. We are to be aware of HIs power to deceive and warn against such a great adversary who seeks to devour and destroy God's creation in mankind. (Revelation 16:14; Eph. 6:12; 1Pet. 5:8; 2Pet.2:11; Jude1:9)
Rephaim, Emim, Horim, Zamsummim in Gen. 14,15; Arba, Anak & his seven sons (Anakim) encountered in Canaan (Numbers 13:33); Og King of Bashan (Duet.3:11; Josh.12 ) Goliath and his 4 brothers.
Here's some of the info at Chuck's site:
http://www.khouse.org/topical_bible_study/nephilim/

 

[RonnyRulz]

What do you mean by aliens? There are angels and other creatures that have been created. The four creatures with four heads, cherubim, sepherim (sp?), angels, demons, yadda yadda.

If you're talking about "Greys" then I think it's a possibility they exist, it's a possibility they don't exist, but the greatest possibility (and what I have concluded to be most likely) is that "Greys" are actually demons. I came to this conclusion because of the situations and circumstances of abductee's encounters, their experiences, and the fact that "Greys" strike fear into those that encounter them or see them, and fear is never of God. Of course that could just be human fear, not fear because it's evil. But, from personal experience and from what people claim has happened, I conclude that the most likely circumstance is it's a spiritual thing. It would explain the lack of evidence of the abductions, and completely explain the torment, nightmare, fear, and constant encounters some people really believe they are having.

But I will never rule out the possibility that "Greys" are actually neutral or even good alien creatures just like us human beings. I also will never rule out the possibility that "Greys" don't exist and that there's no life outside our solar system.

I keep an open mind.