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Why is Fundamental Christians so down on Homosexuality?

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Why is a persons personal sexual orientation a problem to most Christians. All that is required is that you love God and Love your neighbor, so if two Homosexuals are in your Church and they love God and love their neighbors and are going to Church, what is the problem?
Let me ask you a few questions that will probably help answer yours:

Required for what?
What is the difference between fulfilling a requirement and attempting to please?
What does the bible say about those who don’t try to be obedient to God, w.r.t. love?
 
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Why is a persons personal sexual orientation a problem to most Christians. All that is required is that you love God and Love your neighbor, so if two Homosexuals are in your Church and they love God and love their neighbors and are going to Church, what is the problem?

Because it's one of the sins they don't participate in so it takes the heat off of them. On the other hand it's okay if they stuff their faces at a pot luck at church or change spouses like underwear...
 
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Because it's one of the sins they don't participate in so it takes the heat off of them. On the other hand it's okay if they stuff their face at a pot luck at church or change spouses like underwear...
wow, that was profound. WHY is it discussed? CAUSE PEOPLE KEEP MAKING FREAKIN' THREADS on it. STOP doing it and it will go away...duh. Seems simple to me.
 
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Yes, it is profound. Fundies like to point their fingers at the horrible homosexuals while ignoring their own sins...divorce, remarriage, gluttony etc.
my, must be nice to be perfect like you! I for one am NOT divorced..but HAPPILY married to the SAME man for 17 years! AND he is the one I lost my virginity to. SO your attempt at nonsense doens't apply to EVERYONE. YES, people are pointing their finger at GAYS...WHY??? cause PEOPLE ARE STARTING THREADS ABOUT IT! DUH! Give me a break. SO my question is..are YOU perfect?? I THINK not.
 
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my, must be nice to be perfect like you! I for one am NOT divorced..but HAPPILY married to the SAME man for 17 years! AND he is the one I lost my virginity to. SO your attempt at nonsense doens't apply to EVERYONE. YES, people are pointing their finger at GAYS...WHY??? cause PEOPLE ARE STARTING THREADS ABOUT IT! DUH! Give me a break. SO my question is..are YOU perfect?? I THINK not.

You are a minority. Does your pastor perform marriage ceremonies for people who have been divorced, and do you have any fat people in your congregation?
 
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Homosexuals do need to go to Church, as Christ says he came for the sick not the healthy. What you're trying to do is assert that to view homosexualty as a sin you need Mosaic law. This is simply a lie, the first Council at Jerusalem made sexual immorality forbidden, as did St. Paul. Now my question to you is this, do you kill homosexuals you encounter? According to Mosaic law that is the prescribed punishment for it.
 
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You are a minority. Does your pastor perform marriage ceremonies for people who have been divorced, and do you have any fat people in your congregation?
um I don't know! I don'tthink he does to be honest...and YEP! There are a TON of fat people....BUT they aren't saying..HEY look at my lifestyle...come be fat like me...etc. like the gays do. YES< both are SIN...NO one has said differently. BUT....THIS is a let me say it slow so you get it....a thread on homosexuality.....maybe you should start one on sin of being fat!!!
 
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Homosexuals do need to go to Church, as Christ says he came for the sick not the healthy. What you're trying to do is assert that to view homosexualty as a sin you need Mosaic law. This is simply a lie, the first Council at Jerusalem made sexual immorality forbidden, as did St. Paul. Now my question to you is this, do you kill homosexuals you encounter? According to Mosaic law that is the prescribed punishment for it.
HEY, there is a thought!!! LETS DO IT!!!!!!!!! That would help keep it under control!

She said in jest.
 
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OK. But as Christians we are not under the law. We are under grace. Relationships are complicated, people are difficult, so what if the person decides to have a sheep for a sex partner? Is that Ok by the Grace and not law rule?

Where does the Lord Jesus say you can not be Homosexual or have sex with a beast?
 
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um I don't know! I don'tthink he does to be honest...and YEP! There are a TON of fat people....BUT they aren't saying..HEY look at my lifestyle...come be fat like me...etc. like the gays do. YES< both are SIN...NO one has said differently. BUT....THIS is a let me say it slow so you get it....a thread on homosexuality.....maybe you should start one on sin of being fat!!!

No, it's a thread about why some Christians are fixated with gay sex...my point is, by pointing the finger it takes the heat off the common sins of conservative Christians:divorce, remarriage, and gluttony.

a look at me, come be fat like me, organization with conventions in San Fransisco.
http://www.naafa.org/
 
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OK. But as Christians we are not under the law. We are under grace. Relationships are complicated, people are difficult, so what if the person decides to have a sheep for a sex partner? Is that Ok by the Grace and not law rule?

Where does the Lord Jesus say you can not be Homosexual or have sex with a beast?

Can a beast consent to sex? It probably comes down to consent...by the way you will really tick off the PETA people by advocating sex with sheep.
 
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Where does the Apostle Paul get the authority for this ruling?


1CO 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. [2] And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. [3] For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, [4] In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, [5] To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
 
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Is this a trick question for some people Charles?

Homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22.

Is this a trick answer for some people Walch?

(I don't even get the original question so I'm just joking here with the rephrasing of the question. just being silly :p)


So anyways...

If you want to talk about "according to Leviticus" then let's see what else is an abomination.

Levitius 19 says...

9 " 'When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. 10 Do not go over your vineyard a second time or pick up the grapes that have fallen. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God.
15 " 'Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.
17 " 'Do not hate your brother in your heart

18 " 'Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD. 19 " 'Keep my decrees.
" 'Do not mate different kinds of animals.
" 'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.
" 'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of
material.
23 " 'When you enter the land and plant any kind of fruit tree, regard its fruit as forbidden.
27 " 'Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
33 " 'When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. 34 The alien living with you must be treated as one of your native-born. Love him as yourself, for you were aliens in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.



Sorry bro, but quoting Leviticus's laws in this situation isn't the way to prove homosexuality is a sin.

So unless you don't clip off the edges of your beard (you do have a beard, don't you?) then you're just as guilty as a 'homosexual'.


It's ridiculous, Christians will ignore the book of Leviticus' laws when it applies to them (beards, clothing, food, etc.) but when it comes to Homosexuals (who they obviously hate, despite Levitius 19:15,17, & 18) they quote Leviticus like it's undeniable.

It's one thing to say all the laws in the Book of Leviticus is to be followed. It's another to say none of them apply to us.
It's completely different though when you show favoritism and partiality and become a hypocrite and put yourself as God to say what does and what does not apply.

You go ahead and quote Leviticus, but you better have a massive beard and weird clothes. You also better follow all the hundreds of commandments in the Old Testament (there's like 300-600+ commandments, NOT 10.)

Leviticus? L.O.L. You've got to be kidding me.​
 
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Why is a persons personal sexual orientation a problem to most Christians. All that is required is that you love God and Love your neighbor, so if two Homosexuals are in your Church and they love God and love their neighbors and are going to Church, what is the problem?

Here we go again Christians are not down on homosexuals..they are following the words of God that two persons joined together be male and female and that sex is used in marriage.
Homosexual love man loving a man woman loving a woman is not a sin...you can love...having relations with and acting upon the feeling is the sin sex out of marriage is a sin so they are not viewing it any differently than two people unmarried haaving sex same thing sin is sin.
Love is love sex is sex stop confusing the two...be homosexual love men and don't have sex with them and dosn't fantasize about them and there is no sin. That is giving up your wants for God. I am celibate I gave up my needs because I am with noone and with out marriage I will stay celibate dying to self....no sin no sex get it.
 
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