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The next time we shall discuss the furnitures in the outter court (the copper altar, the copper laver) and the daily sacrifices in the detail.
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I have debated if I should continue this thread or not. At times I felt no desire due to the very few response. But since I already have the materials and maybe someone might benefit and receive blessing from them, I will continue it for now...
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Please!! Continue! If I speak for those watching, and studying, then it has been a great help!
Thanks for all your efforts and keep it up its excellent!
God Bless
Jon
dont know if someone is posting it but right now there is a 5 night study going on right now called "The Presence" by Shawn Boostra i think his name is but this night is the last night...........
When the Bible speaks of doing away with the daily in Dan8:11-12 is it not specifically speaking of the apostate practice of confessing sin before man and not the Christ? What specific text in the Bible says the heavenly sanctuarial ceremonies would be conducted as the earthly ones were. IOW, is there direct Biblical support that Christ entered the most Holy at the end of the 2300 day prophecy? Thanks in advance for any comments.
God bless
Jim Larmore
Hi,
About your original question in the other thread... yes, Jesus made an atoning sacrifice at the cross. However the process of atonement is not finished at the cross.
Atonement means at one ment. It means to restore back the original condition. So when we look at it from that sense, the cross did not complete that. Or the cross is not the end of the our christian walk, but the beginning of it, if you will.
The cross provides the possible beginning of justification. We will still need to go through the sanctification (make holy) process. And finally after the glorification (final judgment), all the redeemed are vindicated and atoned. Then the original face-to-face relationship which was severed by sin will forever be restored.
The hebrew word daily in Daniel 8, is tamid. We touched on it earlier in this thread. It refers to the daily service that took place in the sanctuary: in the court: the continue sacrifice for the forgiveness of the confessed sins, the continue washing away of sins; in the holy place: the daily partaking of the bread (the word of God), centered around the continue prayers and finally the believers become that solid gold and the light of the world.
This is happening today in the heavenly sanctuary but in the spiritual aspect.
We know the little horn of Daniel 7, 8 is the Roman Catholism. Yes, by confessing sins to men rather than to God, by removing the bible, by putting the church above the Word of God, by taking the perogatives of God, and by having a mediation in the place of Jesus. Jesus Christ was replaced. In that sense, the papacy is the anti-christ (substitute). The daily was taken away by the RC system.
The earthly sanctuary was a copy of the heavenly not only in proportion but also in functionality because it was a visual illustration of the plan of redemption.
One of the issues they bring up in Heb 9:26 is where it says He went in ONCE . They say that He did this right after He ascended to heaven, not 1800 years later. What do you think about that part?
BTW, thanks so much for you input on this.
God Bless
Jim Larmore
Not to stir things up (OntheDL I think your study is excellent and keep up the good work!), but I don't think the 'daily' in Daniel 8 refers to Christ's heavenly ministry in the sanctuary.
The Hebrew text does not support that the daily was 'removed' from the Prince of the Host; it literally reads
"Even unto the Prince of the Host, he exalted himself; and from him the daily was lifted up....' - it is from pagan rome that the 'daily' was lifted up and not from the Prince of Hosts.
The 'daily' in Daniel is used as a cultic term which is the counterfeit of the daily services of the Israelites; it is essentially 'the continual' form of paganism manifesting itself in each of the four beasts.
I think we have spoken on this before but what do you still think about this?
I should ask before I go on is it ok if I post questions in this thread or would you prefer if I started up another one for this?
Jon