I was reading some more stuff and things came to me.
I just don't believe that HPD is the female counterpart of ASPD. I think they are similar though.
If I consider the difference between the two the male versions of both coundn't be more radically different. As for the female versions, they are still different.
It may not be on the official symptoms list, but it is in a deep pschological profile. Those with HPD have dependancy issues. You would not find that among those with ASPD of either sex.
Those with ASPD really can't feel emotional dependancy because they usually don't have deep feelings for other people anyway, they don't have too many strong emotions either (except for maybe anger, hostility, frustration). Not that they can't be dependant in another way. They can become dependant- in a practical sense. If they are lazy and they find someone who will "take care" of them practically speaking, they can latch on to that, and will stick around to keep it. (Female or male, ha).
I've heard/read plenty of stories of the boyfriend (maybe husband) living off the girlfriend etc. They have no shame about it either. I guess it's not that bad, if they do something to contribute somewhere. They are absolutely the type who are always looking for something for nothing.It's not like the one with NPD- entitlement, it's more like "why not" and if I can get away with it I will.
Also, those with ASPD seem to obsessed/focused on indepenence. It's very important to them, that's why they have such issues with authority. They absolutely can't stand if others try to direct them, tell them what to do, guide them, if they feel someone is trying to decide something for them. Those with HPD aren't caught up in that, they can be very submissive and even helpless at times. They aren't as bothered at all that as long as they feel they are getting their emotional needs met.
Maybe some don't like it or arebothered by it, but they will trade it for the other. Those with ASPD will not give on those points. I think if there is a conflict between getting what they want and bowing to having an authority over them or someone they feel is trying to direct their life etc. ...I think that causes alot of anger and those people are in danger of an explosive response &/or being left out of the blue- as soon as the one with ASPD find someone else who will meet their practical/bodily needs.
Both can be very charming, engaging, observant,attentive. The other side of the one with the HPD is the dependent, insecure, emtional bottomless pit side.
The other side of the ASPD is the cold, callous, dominating side.
Both can cut out just like that, out of nowhere, though for different reasons.
This is because both are basically impulsive, and optimistic. They usually are optimsitic something better is right around the corner.
I guess that's the thing why people get so crushed or suprised when the HPD dissapears. The other person who sees the HPD side then thinks the HPD are so helpless and incapable of leaving them- because they seem so dependent. They have a breaking point in spite of that, some sooner than later. The optimism & impulsiveness kicks in and others are knocked off guard.
Some others may wait and brood and/ or suffer in silence. I think those with HPD like those with ASPD are people of action. They don't wait or sit around for long. They will/ must do something, even if it something stupid or the wrong thing.
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I just don't believe that HPD is the female counterpart of ASPD. I think they are similar though.
If I consider the difference between the two the male versions of both coundn't be more radically different. As for the female versions, they are still different.
It may not be on the official symptoms list, but it is in a deep pschological profile. Those with HPD have dependancy issues. You would not find that among those with ASPD of either sex.
Those with ASPD really can't feel emotional dependancy because they usually don't have deep feelings for other people anyway, they don't have too many strong emotions either (except for maybe anger, hostility, frustration). Not that they can't be dependant in another way. They can become dependant- in a practical sense. If they are lazy and they find someone who will "take care" of them practically speaking, they can latch on to that, and will stick around to keep it. (Female or male, ha).
I've heard/read plenty of stories of the boyfriend (maybe husband) living off the girlfriend etc. They have no shame about it either. I guess it's not that bad, if they do something to contribute somewhere. They are absolutely the type who are always looking for something for nothing.It's not like the one with NPD- entitlement, it's more like "why not" and if I can get away with it I will.
Also, those with ASPD seem to obsessed/focused on indepenence. It's very important to them, that's why they have such issues with authority. They absolutely can't stand if others try to direct them, tell them what to do, guide them, if they feel someone is trying to decide something for them. Those with HPD aren't caught up in that, they can be very submissive and even helpless at times. They aren't as bothered at all that as long as they feel they are getting their emotional needs met.
Maybe some don't like it or arebothered by it, but they will trade it for the other. Those with ASPD will not give on those points. I think if there is a conflict between getting what they want and bowing to having an authority over them or someone they feel is trying to direct their life etc. ...I think that causes alot of anger and those people are in danger of an explosive response &/or being left out of the blue- as soon as the one with ASPD find someone else who will meet their practical/bodily needs.
Both can be very charming, engaging, observant,attentive. The other side of the one with the HPD is the dependent, insecure, emtional bottomless pit side.
The other side of the ASPD is the cold, callous, dominating side.
Both can cut out just like that, out of nowhere, though for different reasons.
This is because both are basically impulsive, and optimistic. They usually are optimsitic something better is right around the corner.
I guess that's the thing why people get so crushed or suprised when the HPD dissapears. The other person who sees the HPD side then thinks the HPD are so helpless and incapable of leaving them- because they seem so dependent. They have a breaking point in spite of that, some sooner than later. The optimism & impulsiveness kicks in and others are knocked off guard.
Some others may wait and brood and/ or suffer in silence. I think those with HPD like those with ASPD are people of action. They don't wait or sit around for long. They will/ must do something, even if it something stupid or the wrong thing.
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