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If I may, I saw this discussion on the main board. Normally I would not even enter this kind of unwinable debate. I believe it is usually reduced to "no there ain't" "yes there is" after a while.
I just want to make a couple points and I may come back to see how things progress. Bear with me...
I'll try to be as brief as I can about a long story........
I was seriously addicted to drugs. I mean I was about to die soon. I had Overdosed a couple times and I was getting worse. I was considering suicide as my many attempt at "treatment" had failed and I believed there was something in me...