why do jews reject jesus?

[LoAmmi]

That remains your own interpretation and what's that to do with the messiah anyway?

What the text literally says is my own interpretation? Is my reading of what you wrote there my own interpretation or are there some things that are clearly written?

 

[Hawkins]

What the text literally says is my own interpretation? Is my reading of what you wrote there my own interpretation or are there some things that are clearly written?

Since when the texts explicitly says that "IT IS A PROPHECY OF THE MESSIAH"?


You treat whatever a verse a messianic prophecy based on a re-developed concept after AD 70 by the rabbis. That's the point.

 

[LoAmmi]

Since when the texts explicitly says that "IT IS A PROPHECY OF THE MESSIAH"?


You treat whatever a verse a messianic prophecy based on a re-developed concept after AD 70 by the rabbis. That's the point.

Oh, well I'll throw it at you. Go find a passage that explicitly states "IT IS A PROPHECY OF THE MESSIAH" anywhere in the Tanakh.

When do you suppose war is going to end as Isaiah speaks about?

 

[LoAmmi]

And to play the game as well....

You treat whatever a verse a messianic prophecy based upon a re-developed concept by the disciples after Jesus's death to account for the sudden, unexpected death of their messiah claimant. Works just as well as your accusation.

 

[Robban]

No, you came in the thread twisting it to something totally off topic!

Does it not say in the book/letter of James,

It only takes one spark to set a whole forest on fire?

This what I am bringing up, if the story is true,

"The Jews", unfortunately that has been used to breed hate, but it is a baseless hate.
why not a certain circle, group, leaders.

Was it not Judas who betrayed him?

One more thing that puzzles me,

Paul says that if anyone who calls themselves Christian but does not Believe that Jesus rose from the dead, their faith is not Worth tuppence.

Your Worth as a Christian hangs on this.

How can someone rise from the dead if they are not dead?

The story goes, he was put to death, by who?

 

[Robban]

Also,
"Have I not chosen you twelve, and yet one of you is a "devil"

Further he also knew who was going to betray him,

Probably could go on and on,

But is you folks who need to get your act together.

 

[Hank77]

Perhaps not, but why is it being brought up in this thread then? The intention of its use on the Jews participating in this thread is clear. "How can we expect these people to accept Jesus if they killed their prophets and Jesus?" It's being used as a hammer here.

Maybe because that is what they have been taught? Maybe because they think that is what Yeshua was saying? Maybe because they think that Jerusalem was destroyed for that reason?

I think that much of the time both those in Judaism and in Christianity are so immersed in our traditions that we either don't prayerfully study what the scriptures actually say or we are blinded by our traditions that came from our rabbis/teachers. We wear coke bottle lenses that distort what we read.

 

[Goatee]

We believe in the NT. You hang on to the 'OLD' Covenant which was surpassed when Jesus came etc.

 

[LoAmmi]

We believe in the NT. You hang on to the 'OLD' Covenant which was surpassed when Jesus came etc.

You do realize we don't call it old, yeah?

 

[Goatee]

Isaiah 11:12 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
12 He will raise an ensign for the nations,
and will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
and gather the dispersed of Judah
from the four corners of the earth.

Gather them where? Doesn't say that all Jews will return to Israel!

 

[Goatee]

Plus, the knowledge of God does cover the whole of the earth!

 

[Goatee]

Universal Peace will only arrive when Jesus comes again

 

[LoAmmi]

Isaiah 11:12 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
12 He will raise an ensign for the nations,
and will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
and gather the dispersed of Judah
from the four corners of the earth.

Gather them where? Doesn't say that all Jews will return to Israel!

All of the geographical references that follow that are in relation to people coming to the land of Israel.

 

[LoAmmi]

Plus, the knowledge of God does cover the whole of the earth!

Then why are you telling me I need to follow Jesus? Shouldn't I know? Jeremiah says nobody shall say to their neighbor know the lord for they shall all know him.

 

[Goatee]

Again, its all about interpretation. How you interpret scripture is not always the same as the next person / religion!

 

[LoAmmi]

Universal Peace will only arrive when Jesus comes again

So you admit that the prophecy of universal peace has not been fulfilled? Thanks!

 

[LoAmmi]

Again, its all about interpretation. How you interpret scripture is not always the same as the next person / religion!

It's the text. It says what it says.

 

[Goatee]

Then why are you telling me I need to follow Jesus? Shouldn't I know? Jeremiah says nobody shall say to their neighbor know the lord for they shall all know him.

I am not telling you to follow Jesus. I am only telling you what 'I' believe

 

[LoAmmi]

I am not telling you to follow Jesus. I am only telling you what 'I' believe

OK, but shouldn't I know if there were universal knowledge? Shouldn't there be no disagreement.

 

[Goatee]

So you admit that the prophecy of universal peace has not been fulfilled? Thanks!

Probably many prophecies in the Bible that have not been fulfilled!

We say the Messiah was Jesus you say no! Thats fine. You are free to believe what you want, same as me. Problem you have is that you think the world is gnashing their teeth at you when they are not!