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Why do Baptists reject the Apostles' Creed?

Discussion in 'Baptists' started by SVH, Feb 27, 2005.

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  1. SVH

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    I have always known and acknowlegde the Apostles' Creed. I was quite shocked to hear that Baptists reject this. Why?
     
  2. Charpaul

    Charpaul New Member

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    I am a baptist. I am not aware that we do reject it.
     
  3. arunma

    arunma Flaming Calvinist

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    I'm a Baptist. I have no problem with the Nicene Creed or the Apostle's Creed. Any Bible-based creed is of course the work of man, but most of the ancient creeds are still excellent standards of Christian orthodoxy. I'm especially fond of the Nicene Creed, which helped to protect the faith against the heresy of Arianism. We don't recite it in church, but my pastor has quoted from it before (and Saint Athanaseus is among his heroes, and mine as well). As far as I know, most of us aren't against the creeds. We're just not a liturgical denomination, which is why we don't use them in our worship services.
     
  4. TwinCrier

    TwinCrier Double Blessed and spreading the gospel

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    The only part that we reject is the loyalty to the catholic church.
     
  5. arunma

    arunma Flaming Calvinist

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    I'm loyal to the catholic church, so long as you spell "catholic" with a small c!

    But seriously, I have no problem with the Roman Catholic Church. I think they're a great denomination of Christianity. I just like being a Baptist better.
     
  6. Matthan

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    Many Baptists, myself included, do not need any "creeds" of men. We have the Bible to serve all functions spiritually. So, you might say that Holy Scripture alone is our creed....

    (Don't you just love that Scripture alone philosophy?)

    Matthan <J>< (Festina Lente)
     
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  7. arunma

    arunma Flaming Calvinist

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    Well, let's remember that sola scriptura doesn't mean that we interpret the Bible in a vacuum. As for the creeds, yes they are the works of man. But most of them happen to be correct. Remember, the Nicene Creed is based on the Bible, yet it specifies the deity of Christ even more clearly than the Bible. That doesn't mean the Creed is better than the Bible. It just means that the Creed is useful to us. You should study some of the men who developed early Christian theology. As I said earlier, Saint Athanaseus was a great champion of the faith.

    By the way, you might be interested to know that there is one creed that can be found right in the Bible. It's in Romans 10:9: "Jesus is Lord."
     
  8. mesue

    mesue Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none.

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    :clap: :amen: :clap:
     
  9. BT

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    We reject the Apostle's Creed on the basis of

    "descended into Hell"

    Jesus NEVER went into Hell. In fact it's empty right now. No, the devil isn't in there with a big ol' pitchfork stabbin folks. He's never been there either. But he will be.
     
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  10. Brother Simon

    Brother Simon And His name shall be called Wonderful...

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    I'm not sure what my liberties here are...but, BT and Matthan, if you wanted to come to OBOB and post your problems with the Apostle's Creed - they will both be answered. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say this - but the things you two said are untrue, at least to the Catholic perspective concerning the Creed.

    God Bless you all. If I overstepped any boundaries, feel free to delete and I will not be angry in the least.

    With love,
    Simon
     
  11. BT

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    Your liberty is that you can ask questions, or post fellowship posts.. like "Happy Birthday". That is where it ends.

    Our liberties in OBOB are that we can ask questions, or post fellowship posts.. like "Happy Birthday". That is where it ends for us.

    Have you ever heard the expression, "Don't bring a knife to a gun-fight?" Meaning that this thread has nothing to do with the Catholic perspective concerning the Creed

     
  12. Brother Simon

    Brother Simon And His name shall be called Wonderful...

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    Forgive me.. :sigh: :(

    I wished to cause no contention and that is what I have caused... :cry:

    With love,

    Simon
     
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  13. SumTinWong

    SumTinWong Living with BPD

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    I just don't pay much attention to the creeds to be honest with you. Nicene or Apostles.
     
  14. arunma

    arunma Flaming Calvinist

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    Woah guys, why don't we be nicer to our Catholic friend?
     
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  15. Matthan

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    The things that I posed about "creeds" are totally TRUE. Jesus did not leave us any "creeds". Christianity, at elast as it is taught in the Holy Bible, does not require any "creeds". Man alone seems to need "creeds". And that is fine for those individuals. Personally, I would prefer a millstone around my neck.

    So, any of you who adhere to any "creeds", that's fine with me. But, do not tell me I am wrong in my simple beliefs until you can also demonstrate how Jesus was wrong for not giving us a "creed" or two to folloow.

    Matthan <J>< (Festina Lente)
     
  16. SumTinWong

    SumTinWong Living with BPD

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    I actually think Creeds are more or less a persons way of taking what they have learned from God and putting that into words. Liek a hymn. The guy who wrote Amazing grace, knew of what he worte about because God had shown him amazing grace. The creeds are more or less an attempt to join together with people who believe likewise.

    That being said they are not necessary, but they are not evil either. What disturbs me though are the myths surrounding the apostles creed, and by whom this was supposedly written. That aside New Advent says :"It is highly probable that the Creed was originally nothing else than a profession of faith in the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost of the baptismal formula."
     
  17. Gold Dragon

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    When I first heard the Apostle's Creed, that line got me hunting through the bible as well and I agree that it isn't there. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that the bible doesn't bear witness to whether it happened or not.

    I don't reject the Apostle's Creed and I find it to be a valuable measure of orthodoxy and it was probably a very useful identifying type of statement for the early church and continues to be today.

    Creeds have their purposes and this one fulfills its purpose well.
     
  18. BT

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    Actually the Bible gives ample information about what happened during those three days, and so bears witness just fine. Keep hunting.
     
  19. ksen

    ksen Wiki on Garth!

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    Then your church does not hold to any statement of faith?
     
  20. ksen

    ksen Wiki on Garth!

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    See Exodus 20 for the creed God, and by extension Jesus Christ, gave us. :)
     
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