What caused the Universe?

[AV1611VET]

It's not? Matter can be created and destroyed?

Huh.

Cute.

 

[HitchSlap]

Cute.

If you say so.

 

[MasonP]

He said He was.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Amazing.

 

[SteveB28]

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

So sayeth another man who probably didn't know what he was talking about....

 

[SteveB28]

As the verse goes on to say ...

Hebrews 11:3a Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God,

This lines up with what God did in Genesis 1, where ten times we see the phrase: AND GOD SAID.

So my faith is corroborated by the Bible.

By a group of unnamed men telling stories.

 

[SteveB28]

Because God created one: telling us how He did it, where He did it, when He did it, what order He did it in, how long it took Him to do it, why it took Him that long, and who the eyewitnesses were.

He said nothing. Men wrote stories.

 

[SteveB28]

He said He was.

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

He said nothing. Men wrote stories.

 

[AV1611VET]

So sayeth another man who probably didn't know what he was talking about....

Don't worry ... he was persecuted for his beliefs.

 

[AV1611VET]

He said nothing. Men wrote stories.

Someone doesn't understand the art of amanuensis, does he?

 

[SteveB28]

Don't worry ... he was persecuted for his beliefs.

Died by the same sword he previously wielded, right?

C'est la vie.............

 

[SteveB28]

Someone doesn't understand the art of amanuensis, does he?

I understand it very well. There is no evidence that that was the role being performed. Just men making claims and writing stories............

 

[AV1611VET]

I understand it very well.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[MasonP]

And I'm Genghis Khan.

How long have you been Genghis Khan?

 

[AV1611VET]

How long have you been Genghis Khan?

23 minutes now.

 

[Goonie]

And I'm Genghis Khan.

No I'm Genesis Khan! And so's my wife!

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

God spoke "Let there be _______" and a fully formed universe sprung into existence.

Sounds suspiciously similar to "abracadabra" *POOF*

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

And neither #2, #3 nor #4 rule out #1.

Nothing rules #1 in either.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Don't worry ... he was persecuted for his beliefs.

Every religion has had or still has situations where the followers were persecuted for their beliefs.

Christianity is no exception.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Based on the available evidence? We don't know.

From a theological position of ultimate cosmic origins? Christians confess that God is the creator of all things "both seen and unseen" and thus the very existence of anything is attributed to the creative act of God.

I'm not suggesting a God-of-the-gaps here, that "We don't know, therefore God"; but rather that the answer to the question can be two things: 1. the scientific answer, which is at present "we don't know" and 2. the theological confession, which is that God is the maker of all things. And should 1 ever have an answer it is not in opposition to 2, nor does 2 necessarily give an answer to 1--the places of science and theology are different.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Speedwell]

Nothing rules #1 in either.

Exactly. The existence of God, like all decently crafted theological propositions, is unfalsifiable.