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Christ, or a son, as relative to us, is the end of law of the labor to be, and the beginning of the law of this eternal life, or knowing of our Father presently. It is what we come to, where he is, which all those taught of the Father come to.
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You can’t know God outside of being his son (which is not a split issue), all else falls short as the true foundation of self, which is beyond all scripture, and the life of it.
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The truth of what a word/words mean is finite to the soul we lose, eternal to the soul we have found, and remains when we live in it.
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Religion is a serpent, once bitten one must follow the anecdote prescribed, like the Bible it is a means to an end, this is why the rod in scripture (when cast down) becomes a serpent; it finds it's meaning in the process of the soul.
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The way of Cain is imagining to be; rather, let the truth open up in your imagination and you will keep coming to a greater and greater revelation of what it means to be free.
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The relationship with God is found in us, and becomes seen in how we relate to what is outside of us, as something not separate from us.
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"Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.
Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?
When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?
For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.
For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument, neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin; but the fitches are beaten out with a staff, and the cummin with a rod.
Bread corn is bruised; because he will not ever be threshing it, nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen.
This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working." I saith 28:23
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Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?
When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?
For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.
For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument, neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin; but the fitches are beaten out with a staff, and the cummin with a rod.
Bread corn is bruised; because he will not ever be threshing it, nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen.
This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working." I saith 28:23
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This bears repeating, and I’ll expand it a bit … (though again it is much bigger than this) ... concerning the forties as seen in scripture and how these truths without us relate to us in a manner that reveals the nature of the process found in the soul, which the sacrifice of brings an end to the scattering of self by the sacrifice of the very thing that scattered us to begin with (which is to take thought), but in no other way do we come to understand what our soul/woman is to us, and the feast (or she did give me an I did eat) she prepares for us that defines who we are according to the seed that was sown in her (whether from without or within) which judgment appears in this same manner as true judgment which only comes from within, and is measured in nothing concerning the self this judgment is.
To throw it out there, a ship in scripture is the system set up by a serpent to pass through the waters. As keys, a ship is built by hands (consider the Prince of Tyre as being the one who not only builds ships (his kingdom n the midst of the seas) but provides the timber for the temple of Solomon that God rejects as a truth of the son that he was, which through his wives and concubines causes a dividing of the firstborn Israel was a picture of), the waves of the sea a double mindedness, and a place of the dead (or nothing from life/God) a toiling in the night, a place where the wind is contrary to you, simply because of the system (collectively and individually) you have built yourself (or in the day you eat) or what the perception/law of Moses became to Israel, or Jacob’s fathers God became to him, or Elijah’s God became to Elisha) wherein you oppose yourself or enter into your 2nd forty as something that begins and an ends with a thought, no matter how many times it takes to bring you to the end of every thought that is a seed sown from without, or not your own.
Now, Abraham harkened to his wife the first time as Adam had, just as Peter harkened to his own soul when Jesus told him what he must do (Notice Jesus did not enter into a 2nd forty over what God had said, which was also the case in his wilderness (or Adam and Eve scenario), which you find in Abraham when his wife told him (a second time in relationship to a son) the two sons could not be partakers of one inheritance (which you see in Cain and Abel, and the blessing Cain strived for as a reward for being the first to do it (or the blessing of the first born (forties) or in Jesus’ God and mammon analogy) when he is told by God to harken unto his wife concerning a son born of slavery, and a son born free, as two that cannot be partakers of the promise/inhertiance that only belongs to one (and how it relates to us) in the sense that they/we are this promise, or truth, or son.
Concerning naked and not ashamed, and naked and ashamed … as a truth that is as much of the tree of knowledge as is it is every bottomless pit one would fall in, which is a truth cast down (or star that falls) that opens the mouth/pit of an immoral woman (Jesus’ both fall into the pit of the reasoning to be) a 2nd forty, which is a fleeing seven ways before them, and the second telling of the creative week).
In Leviticus it says Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying (the Law (of the mind/woman) that governs the birthing of a child), “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘If a woman has conceived, and borne a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days; as in the days of her customary impurity she shall be unclean (a week) here your soul becomes this to you when by your soul (through a seed) you become born, which relates as to the seed to not having defiled yourself with a woman, or why David could break the law but not be judged by it, or have no sin). And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. She shall then continue in the blood of her purification thirty-three days (which is a shadow of Jesus’ 33 years and the culmination of the pouring out of his own soul (life is in the blood) which finished Jesus’ forty that he walked out, which began when he came over the Jordan and into the land, that was truth of his soul) seeing that we enter into to process, or in and out, or hill and valley when we enter into a 2nd forty (found in picture of Israel coming out of Egypt when at the mountain of God they do not obey the commandment of Moses as Adam did not in the first garden, or Sarah when it came to the promise of a son, and in reflection Abraham’s soul). She shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary until the days of her purification are fulfilled (which now should be understood in the light it was said in regards to who is the temple, or sanctuary of God).
But if she bears a female child (think of this in relationship to Babylon who (as one thing) is the mother of harlots), then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her customary impurity, and she shall continue in the blood of her purification sixty-six days (and relating this to the city becoming desolate which reveals the true soul one finds, one that comes down from God, out of heaven (though it has remained our soul from the beginning, which we must lose to keep).
One week for a male child plus thirty three days to complete forty days of impurity (as seen in the truth that Jesus became). Or the introduction of the first forty being masculine (which the truth of is a seed of self within the garden that is enclosed). Two weeks for the female child!! Plus sixty six days to complete eighty days of impurity, revealing the second forty as feminine (which in one form is the process we become ensnared (likened to a kingdom, a garden, a mountain, a city, a tower), the process of our soul).
Now …Moses is called up into Mount Sinai fasting forty days and forty nights, and comes to the end of his first forty which afterwards Israel begins the 2nd forty as this truth of Moses soul, as it was this for Adam, or for Isaac, Abraham, or Nebuchadnezzar and his interpreted dream about himself) a serpent always comes after the first forty, which creates a path to follow out of the truth that you are) as it happened to Jesus (the Christ, or son of God, which is relative to us as are all things).
As everyone who has read it knows, the children of Israel corrupted themselves, and rebelled against God by making an image into a God, which is the masculine of building a boat) out of ear rings, or hearing of the ear (feminine), where they are led about as by a nose ring out of which the prophet to Pharaoh formed a golden calf, saying in went the ear rings into the fire, and out came this God who is a beast of the field). Moses has to come down and bring order to the camp, much like the voice of God that Adam and the woman heard walking in the garden. If one reads the account in Exodus, Moses grinds to powder the golden calf making them drink it (whereas for Adam it is the ground he eats of), and the Levite's go into the midst of Israel and kill three (a perception that becomes between them and God) -thousand of their brethren, saying to the levites consecrate yourselves upon your son and your brother to show that you are full of the fire of God, and so that he might bestow upon you a blessing this day (in relationship to Israel as the firstborn, which goes a long way).
If one reads the Deuteronomy account Moses comes down from the Mount breaks the two stones and falls down and fasts another forty days and forty nights. A total of Eighty days of fasting. So we see the literal application of the forty and eighty days explained in the Word.
When the tables are broken, being cast down, and they have drank their God, the Levite’s go throughout the camp and kill three thousand people (which in one sense is the crucifying of the first born, as one who is without sin (individually and collectively). Had the Children of Israel not sinned with the golden calf then there would have only been forty days of fasting (Jesus’ wilderness experience) and therefore the first born would have remained as God's choice or the revealed masculine, but they sinned (which was not outside of the purpose of God) and Moses fasted another forty days a total of eighty days and the firstborn was rejected and the Levite's were taken or chosen instead of God's firstborn son which is feminine because this act introduces the system of religion that one must perform to please God ... a way of Cain.
Let's look at another example... When the Children of Israel went to spy out the land of promise they looked over the land for forty days. We all know this story... The spies came back with a bad report and convinced the people not to go into the land, God spoke of this later as provoking him ten times (through the law of our mind).
The first forty days was the time of impurity for a son ... the time where they searched out the land, and where when their nakedness was revealed the testimony became ten and two just as what Solomon divided Israel into; they rebelled and were forced to roam the wilderness for forty years... Eighty, the time of impurity for a girl... We see here the introduction of the Eve (not the woman).
Remember, Adam needed a helpmate, so God (who creates light and darkness or divides up the inheritance of Adam into two son) opened a door with a rib and revealed the woman, not another person but duality in Adam his mind will and intellect cast down into this worldly realm. As this begins to open up we begin to see that the first forty is masculine, but if there is rebellion then the second forty is revealed which is feminine and reveals our nakedness... When the Children of Israel refused to enter into the land after forty days of spying, a door was opened (for John a door is opened but he sees from a place of no sin, or spirit, remembering that John was in the spirit on the lord’s day (7th) as opposed to Adam’s day (6th) which in the wildness is seen as the bread of Noah, or the bread of two days/sons/fruits/etc.).
The first forty is masculine and the second forty feminine. Our first known forty is with Noah when it rained for forty days and forty nights. So far we see the masculine, because there is no rebellion, or is there? After the flood all get off the Ark (which was filled with clean and unclean animals) and Noah becomes a farmer and plants a vineyard and gets drunk. Ham uncovers his father's nakedness. From Adam to Noah we have ten. Noah has three sons, masculine. However one son (Ham) (youngest of three, even as Jacob was this truth in a different form) uncovers his father's nakedness, just like Adam and Eve's nakedness was uncovered. Just like in the Book of Revelation, a third of the stars have just been cast down, two sons didn't see their father's nakedness and one son did, so here we begin to see the introduction of the feminine. Ham's son Canaan is cursed or we have the revealing of the forty and this gives birth to the line of the feminine or the immoral woman, or the mother of all living. The next time we see a literal forty is when the Children of Israel come out of Israel... They were in captivity for four hundred and thirty years. God rebelled against all of humanity by separating out a people unto Himself or as God called them, His firstborn son, singular. The thirty is a number that is one tenth of three hundred... Remember the Ark? Three hundred cubits long? Thirty is one tenth of three hundred. Enoch walked with God three hundred years or can we say that Enoch walked (three hundred) the perfect will of God and the thirty is the tithe of our individual walk to reveal that perfect walk revealing in us. So far I see Enoch walking out the revealing of one forty, for God took him. So now the children of Israel are in the wilderness... Moses fasts on the mount for forty days and forty nights. The Children of Israel rebel and worship the golden calf, a door is opened. Moses comes down from the mount and fast another forty days and forty nights... We see the woman being revealed... God rejects His Firstborn son whom He delivered out of the bondage of Israel and takes the Levite's, the priesthood, and the law instead. But it gets a little better... Because hidden in the dimensions of the Tabernacle of Moses is the revealing of the sixty six. Or the number left over from the first two weeks of uncleanness of a woman who gave birth to a daughter. Each time we see two forties we see a casting down. So while in the wilderness the spies spy out the land for forty days, masculine... But they rebel and out of fear they don't enter into the land, so they spend forty years in the wilderness revealing the eighty or feminine. So now the Children of Israel enter into a land peopled with the curse of Canaan from the first round of forties with Noah. We now have two women in the land. The first woman is revealed as wisdom, knowledge, and understanding, and the second woman is the immoral woman who peoples the land. It could be summed up in Adam as the picture of the process of the scattering or crucifying (who they were as something hung on a tree) of everyone ever born of a woman.
Adam went into a deep sleep and his rib was taken that was a forty... When they, Adam and the woman ate from the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, their eyes were opened that was the second forty... revealing their nakedness.
Jesus fasts forty days and forty nights... Satan (adversary) came to temp Him... but God does not open the door for him being that to him God is not something separate from who he is.
To throw it out there, a ship in scripture is the system set up by a serpent to pass through the waters. As keys, a ship is built by hands (consider the Prince of Tyre as being the one who not only builds ships (his kingdom n the midst of the seas) but provides the timber for the temple of Solomon that God rejects as a truth of the son that he was, which through his wives and concubines causes a dividing of the firstborn Israel was a picture of), the waves of the sea a double mindedness, and a place of the dead (or nothing from life/God) a toiling in the night, a place where the wind is contrary to you, simply because of the system (collectively and individually) you have built yourself (or in the day you eat) or what the perception/law of Moses became to Israel, or Jacob’s fathers God became to him, or Elijah’s God became to Elisha) wherein you oppose yourself or enter into your 2nd forty as something that begins and an ends with a thought, no matter how many times it takes to bring you to the end of every thought that is a seed sown from without, or not your own.
Now, Abraham harkened to his wife the first time as Adam had, just as Peter harkened to his own soul when Jesus told him what he must do (Notice Jesus did not enter into a 2nd forty over what God had said, which was also the case in his wilderness (or Adam and Eve scenario), which you find in Abraham when his wife told him (a second time in relationship to a son) the two sons could not be partakers of one inheritance (which you see in Cain and Abel, and the blessing Cain strived for as a reward for being the first to do it (or the blessing of the first born (forties) or in Jesus’ God and mammon analogy) when he is told by God to harken unto his wife concerning a son born of slavery, and a son born free, as two that cannot be partakers of the promise/inhertiance that only belongs to one (and how it relates to us) in the sense that they/we are this promise, or truth, or son.
Concerning naked and not ashamed, and naked and ashamed … as a truth that is as much of the tree of knowledge as is it is every bottomless pit one would fall in, which is a truth cast down (or star that falls) that opens the mouth/pit of an immoral woman (Jesus’ both fall into the pit of the reasoning to be) a 2nd forty, which is a fleeing seven ways before them, and the second telling of the creative week).
In Leviticus it says Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying (the Law (of the mind/woman) that governs the birthing of a child), “Speak to the children of Israel, saying: ‘If a woman has conceived, and borne a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days; as in the days of her customary impurity she shall be unclean (a week) here your soul becomes this to you when by your soul (through a seed) you become born, which relates as to the seed to not having defiled yourself with a woman, or why David could break the law but not be judged by it, or have no sin). And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. She shall then continue in the blood of her purification thirty-three days (which is a shadow of Jesus’ 33 years and the culmination of the pouring out of his own soul (life is in the blood) which finished Jesus’ forty that he walked out, which began when he came over the Jordan and into the land, that was truth of his soul) seeing that we enter into to process, or in and out, or hill and valley when we enter into a 2nd forty (found in picture of Israel coming out of Egypt when at the mountain of God they do not obey the commandment of Moses as Adam did not in the first garden, or Sarah when it came to the promise of a son, and in reflection Abraham’s soul). She shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary until the days of her purification are fulfilled (which now should be understood in the light it was said in regards to who is the temple, or sanctuary of God).
But if she bears a female child (think of this in relationship to Babylon who (as one thing) is the mother of harlots), then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her customary impurity, and she shall continue in the blood of her purification sixty-six days (and relating this to the city becoming desolate which reveals the true soul one finds, one that comes down from God, out of heaven (though it has remained our soul from the beginning, which we must lose to keep).
One week for a male child plus thirty three days to complete forty days of impurity (as seen in the truth that Jesus became). Or the introduction of the first forty being masculine (which the truth of is a seed of self within the garden that is enclosed). Two weeks for the female child!! Plus sixty six days to complete eighty days of impurity, revealing the second forty as feminine (which in one form is the process we become ensnared (likened to a kingdom, a garden, a mountain, a city, a tower), the process of our soul).
Now …Moses is called up into Mount Sinai fasting forty days and forty nights, and comes to the end of his first forty which afterwards Israel begins the 2nd forty as this truth of Moses soul, as it was this for Adam, or for Isaac, Abraham, or Nebuchadnezzar and his interpreted dream about himself) a serpent always comes after the first forty, which creates a path to follow out of the truth that you are) as it happened to Jesus (the Christ, or son of God, which is relative to us as are all things).
As everyone who has read it knows, the children of Israel corrupted themselves, and rebelled against God by making an image into a God, which is the masculine of building a boat) out of ear rings, or hearing of the ear (feminine), where they are led about as by a nose ring out of which the prophet to Pharaoh formed a golden calf, saying in went the ear rings into the fire, and out came this God who is a beast of the field). Moses has to come down and bring order to the camp, much like the voice of God that Adam and the woman heard walking in the garden. If one reads the account in Exodus, Moses grinds to powder the golden calf making them drink it (whereas for Adam it is the ground he eats of), and the Levite's go into the midst of Israel and kill three (a perception that becomes between them and God) -thousand of their brethren, saying to the levites consecrate yourselves upon your son and your brother to show that you are full of the fire of God, and so that he might bestow upon you a blessing this day (in relationship to Israel as the firstborn, which goes a long way).
If one reads the Deuteronomy account Moses comes down from the Mount breaks the two stones and falls down and fasts another forty days and forty nights. A total of Eighty days of fasting. So we see the literal application of the forty and eighty days explained in the Word.
When the tables are broken, being cast down, and they have drank their God, the Levite’s go throughout the camp and kill three thousand people (which in one sense is the crucifying of the first born, as one who is without sin (individually and collectively). Had the Children of Israel not sinned with the golden calf then there would have only been forty days of fasting (Jesus’ wilderness experience) and therefore the first born would have remained as God's choice or the revealed masculine, but they sinned (which was not outside of the purpose of God) and Moses fasted another forty days a total of eighty days and the firstborn was rejected and the Levite's were taken or chosen instead of God's firstborn son which is feminine because this act introduces the system of religion that one must perform to please God ... a way of Cain.
Let's look at another example... When the Children of Israel went to spy out the land of promise they looked over the land for forty days. We all know this story... The spies came back with a bad report and convinced the people not to go into the land, God spoke of this later as provoking him ten times (through the law of our mind).
The first forty days was the time of impurity for a son ... the time where they searched out the land, and where when their nakedness was revealed the testimony became ten and two just as what Solomon divided Israel into; they rebelled and were forced to roam the wilderness for forty years... Eighty, the time of impurity for a girl... We see here the introduction of the Eve (not the woman).
Remember, Adam needed a helpmate, so God (who creates light and darkness or divides up the inheritance of Adam into two son) opened a door with a rib and revealed the woman, not another person but duality in Adam his mind will and intellect cast down into this worldly realm. As this begins to open up we begin to see that the first forty is masculine, but if there is rebellion then the second forty is revealed which is feminine and reveals our nakedness... When the Children of Israel refused to enter into the land after forty days of spying, a door was opened (for John a door is opened but he sees from a place of no sin, or spirit, remembering that John was in the spirit on the lord’s day (7th) as opposed to Adam’s day (6th) which in the wildness is seen as the bread of Noah, or the bread of two days/sons/fruits/etc.).
The first forty is masculine and the second forty feminine. Our first known forty is with Noah when it rained for forty days and forty nights. So far we see the masculine, because there is no rebellion, or is there? After the flood all get off the Ark (which was filled with clean and unclean animals) and Noah becomes a farmer and plants a vineyard and gets drunk. Ham uncovers his father's nakedness. From Adam to Noah we have ten. Noah has three sons, masculine. However one son (Ham) (youngest of three, even as Jacob was this truth in a different form) uncovers his father's nakedness, just like Adam and Eve's nakedness was uncovered. Just like in the Book of Revelation, a third of the stars have just been cast down, two sons didn't see their father's nakedness and one son did, so here we begin to see the introduction of the feminine. Ham's son Canaan is cursed or we have the revealing of the forty and this gives birth to the line of the feminine or the immoral woman, or the mother of all living. The next time we see a literal forty is when the Children of Israel come out of Israel... They were in captivity for four hundred and thirty years. God rebelled against all of humanity by separating out a people unto Himself or as God called them, His firstborn son, singular. The thirty is a number that is one tenth of three hundred... Remember the Ark? Three hundred cubits long? Thirty is one tenth of three hundred. Enoch walked with God three hundred years or can we say that Enoch walked (three hundred) the perfect will of God and the thirty is the tithe of our individual walk to reveal that perfect walk revealing in us. So far I see Enoch walking out the revealing of one forty, for God took him. So now the children of Israel are in the wilderness... Moses fasts on the mount for forty days and forty nights. The Children of Israel rebel and worship the golden calf, a door is opened. Moses comes down from the mount and fast another forty days and forty nights... We see the woman being revealed... God rejects His Firstborn son whom He delivered out of the bondage of Israel and takes the Levite's, the priesthood, and the law instead. But it gets a little better... Because hidden in the dimensions of the Tabernacle of Moses is the revealing of the sixty six. Or the number left over from the first two weeks of uncleanness of a woman who gave birth to a daughter. Each time we see two forties we see a casting down. So while in the wilderness the spies spy out the land for forty days, masculine... But they rebel and out of fear they don't enter into the land, so they spend forty years in the wilderness revealing the eighty or feminine. So now the Children of Israel enter into a land peopled with the curse of Canaan from the first round of forties with Noah. We now have two women in the land. The first woman is revealed as wisdom, knowledge, and understanding, and the second woman is the immoral woman who peoples the land. It could be summed up in Adam as the picture of the process of the scattering or crucifying (who they were as something hung on a tree) of everyone ever born of a woman.
Adam went into a deep sleep and his rib was taken that was a forty... When they, Adam and the woman ate from the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, their eyes were opened that was the second forty... revealing their nakedness.
Jesus fasts forty days and forty nights... Satan (adversary) came to temp Him... but God does not open the door for him being that to him God is not something separate from who he is.
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... and being obscured, they are perfectly in tune ... and it's appropriate, it appears by this video to have been written for three instruments.
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Perfectly in tune like a clanging gong playing alongside fingernails running down a chalkboard maybe. My interpretation was different i guess, but that is art for you. It is interpreted differently by different people.
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I'm a musician of forty years ... but even light was called out of something that was without form and void.
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I guess my thoughts were about paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians 13. I was also reminded about how the Lord taught us to not hide our lite but to let it shine.
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