The Creationist Corner

[juvenissun]

No, its really not.

Yes, it really is.

 

[VirOptimus]

Yes, it really is.

Explain to me how.

 

[juvenissun]

Explain to me how.

The OP did a very good job.

 

[Kylie]

Evidence is not proof. It can not logically "show" the truth. It only points to the truth. You do not really understand what an evidence is.

Hummingbird is an "evidence" of God.

Yeah, you don't seem to know what evidence is. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

 

[AV1611VET]

You spelled "evolution" wrong.

w - i - t - c - h - c - r - a - f - t

 

[Kylie]

w - i - t - c - h - c - r - a - f - t

Yes. All those scientific discoveries were made by witches cooking a potion in their cauldron.

Besides, if you think so lowly of it, why do you benefit from the knowledge evolutionary theory gives us? Or do you not get antibiotics, flu shots, etc?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes. All those scientific discoveries were made by witches cooking a potion in their cauldron.

Why is it everytime someone critiques macroevolution, the reply is from a microevolution standpoint.

Name one medicine we have in existence today, compliments of macroevolution.

Besides, if you think so lowly of it, why do you benefit from the knowledge evolutionary theory gives us?

I don't believe macroevolution has anything to offer us.

Or do you not get antibiotics, flu shots, etc?

I would get them on an as-needed basis, just as Jesus told me to do.

 

[Kylie]

Why is it everytime someone critiques macroevolution, the reply is from a microevolution standpoint.

The process of macroevolution is the same as the process of microevolution, just over a different time scale.

Seriously, what you are saying is that walking a kilometer down the street to the shops is a fundamentally different thing to walking into the kitchen.

Name one medicine we have in existence today, compliments of macroevolution.

As I said, the process is the same. Your attempts to pretend that they are two different things is irrelevant.

I don't believe macroevolution has anything to offer us.

And you'd be wrong

I would get them on an as-needed basis, just as Jesus told me to do.

What passage is it where Jesus recommends getting your flu shots? Book and verse please.

 

[AV1611VET]

The process of macroevolution is the same as the process of microevolution, just over a different time scale.

No, it isn't.

It's much more than that.

Seriously, what you are saying is that walking a kilometer down the street to the shops is a fundamentally different thing to walking into the kitchen.

Except evolution takes it further.

In evolution, once you get to the shops, you have to agree that the shops are an extension of my kitchen.

Taking baby steps from Boston to L.A. is not the same thing as believing Boston and L.A. are cousins.

As I said, the process is the same. Your attempts to pretend that they are two different things is irrelevant.

All that baby-step stuff shows is deep time.

Nothing more.

And you'd be wrong

I seriously doubt it.

What passage is it where Jesus recommends getting your flu shots? Book and verse please.

Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

This passage is the beloved physician (Luke) quoting the Great Physician (Jesus Christ).

 

[Kylie]

No, it isn't.

It's much more than that.

No, the processes are the same in both.

Except evolution takes it further.

In evolution, once you get to the shops, you have to agree that the shops are an extension of my kitchen.

Taking baby steps from Boston to L.A. is not the same thing as believing Boston and L.A. are cousins.

You care to support this? Because none of the stuff I have read about evolution would indicate this.

All that baby-step stuff shows is deep time.

Nothing more.

And microevolution over deep time is macro evolution. Get it?

I seriously doubt it.

Doubt your wrongness all you want. You're still wrong.

Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

This passage is the beloved physician (Luke) quoting the Great Physician (Jesus Christ).

Sorry, I must have missed the words talking about flu shots in that. Perhaps you could highlight them for me?

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, I must have missed the words talking about flu shots in that. Perhaps you could highlight them for me?

It's stuff like this that tells me the questioner isn't really trying to understand.

 

[TrannasapiensRex]

A design requires a Designer, creation requires a Creator. Random chance could not have created the world we live in. The math simply does not allow for that. This world could not have created itself.

These designs do not require a Designer they are created by a purely natural process based on the random nature of fractal math.
There are designs like this found every where in nature.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/173881235588409807/
http://gem-sphalerite.com/inclusions-in-opal/133-dendritic-opal-509

 

[joshua 1 9]

These designs do not require a Designer they are created by a purely natural process based on the random nature of fractal math.
There are designs like this found every where in nature.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/173881235588409807/
http://gem-sphalerite.com/inclusions-in-opal/133-dendritic-opal-509

Whatever design you have it is going to follow the natural laws that were created by God.

 

[Kylie]

It's stuff like this that tells me the questioner isn't really trying to understand.

If you mean that I'm not willing to make the same mental gymnastics that you must do in order to interpret a Bible verse to what you think it means, then no, I'm not.

 

[HitchSlap]

It's stuff like this that tells me the questioner isn't really trying to understand.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you mean that I'm not willing to make the same mental gymnastics that you must do in order to interpret a Bible verse to what you think it means, then no, I'm not.

Yet, you'll challenge me to do it, won't you?

Specifically, you'll challenge me to show you the words "flu" and "shots" next to each other in the Bible, else I can't get flu shots on an as-needed basis?

Speaking of "mental gymnastics," who's the one on the monkey bars?

 

[AV1611VET]

I wonder how many atheist parents won't let their children, who believe in the Bible, get medical attention (or whatever) unless they first admit "it's not in the Bible" or "the Bible is wrong"?

 

[HitchSlap]

I wonder how many atheist parents won't let their children, who believe in the Bible, get medical attention (or whatever) unless they first admit "it's not in the Bible" or "the Bible is wrong"?

I give up. How many?

 

[Foxhole87]

I wonder how many atheist parents won't let their children, who believe in the Bible, get medical attention (or whatever) unless they first admit "it's not in the Bible" or "the Bible is wrong"?

I'd wager that number is eclipsed by the theist parents who won't let their children received medical treatment on the grounds that something in scripture could be interpreted to be critical of a necessary medical treatment.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'd wager that number is eclipsed by the theist parents who won't let their children received medical treatment on the grounds that something in scripture could be interpreted to be critical of a necessary medical treatment.

Either way it's wrong.