The ACLU campaign to advance communist goals

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Fineous_Reese said:
“I am for socialism,” wrote ACLU founder Roger Baldwin in 1936. “I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”

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Sir Jack Napes said:
That's rich, a lawyer lobbying to deny his adversary attorney's fees, through federal legislation no less.

Perhaps because that adversary keep winning the cases? So if I have a good case for civil liberty and have to pay attorneys fees to fight for what I think is right, the opposing group (who traditionally loses these cases) can now simply keep upping the ante by dragging it out until I run out of money to fight the case. Then, without any recourse, I'm out for the count. That sounds fair? :scratch:

Am I understanding this correctly?

And I love how he says Hollywood is known to coddle communists. Where was he in the 50's? He likes to dig up outdated quotes from the 30's and 40's but totally ignores the 50's? Weird.
 
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I guess some people just can't get over the Cold War...sort of like people who can't forget the time their high school football team won the local championship.

I mean, Roger Baldwin said that in 1936! You think maybe the organization has evolved since then? No, I guess to conservatives nothing ever changes...once a commie, always a commie, eh? How wonderfully cynical.

The Cold War is over, right-wing ideologues. We won. Time to move on.
 
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charmtrap said:
I mean, Roger Baldwin said that in 1936! You think maybe the organization has evolved since then? No, I guess to conservatives nothing ever changes...once a commie, always a commie, eh? How wonderfully cynical.
In the link I posted, it appeared that even Roger Baldwin had changed since 1936.
 
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charmtrap said:
I guess some people just can't get over the Cold War...sort of like people who can't forget the time their high school football team won the local championship.

I mean, Roger Baldwin said that in 1936! You think maybe the organization has evolved since then? No, I guess to conservatives nothing ever changes...once a commie, always a commie, eh? How wonderfully cynical.

The Cold War is over, right-wing ideologues. We won. Time to move on.
How has it changed? FYI, when someone points out "right wing," that's what America used to be like before the socialist left wing started pointed fingers.
 
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Praise2God said:
How has it changed? FYI, when someone points out "right wing," that's what America used to be like before the socialist left wing started pointed fingers.
Well I'm mighty happy there was a left to point fingers so women could vote and minorities could be seen as equals.
 
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Ninja Turtles said:
Well I'm mighty happy there was a left to point fingers so women could vote and minorities could be seen as equals.

don't forget abortion on demand, no fault divorce and sex ed for 8 yr olds.
 
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Fineous_Reese said:
don't forget abortion on demand, no fault divorce and sex ed for 8 yr olds.

These have what to do with the "ACLU-communism connection"?

Also, I'd like to see evidence that 8-year-olds are being given sex education, institutionally.
 
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Ninja Turtles said:
Well I'm mighty happy there was a left to point fingers so women could vote and minorities could be seen as equals.
You think the democrats have the monopoly on minority rights? Remember that Lincoln was a Republican. Also, since you brought up women and minority rights. Where were you guys when Dr. Condoleeza Rice was attacked and her drawings of big lips, etc., like a slave? Where were/are you when mojority of abortion clinics are located NEAR a poor minority neighborhood? And where are you when knowing that minority black Americans don't live as long as whites are forced to deal with the current social security system? The democrats even considering increasing the retirement age. The blacks will never get to see their money because they will die before seeing a penny. And where are you when Terri Schiavo needed you most? And just remember that Senator Bird was a grandmaster of KKK and he's a Democrat. I can go on and on. But you guys are too blind
 
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