I didn't defend or justify genocide or any such evil actions, in any way.
No, you just call the ones undergoing the genocide and fighting against it as bad OR EVEN WORSE than the perpetrator of the genocide?!?!?!?!
Because muslims are such a great example to the civilised world, ha?
When we follow Islam, yeah, actually. When Europe was in its Dark Ages, the Muslims were in their Golden Age despite being new to the party (new in the sense of Islam as it was with the final set of rules sent with the last, final, and best Messenger).
Right when the Muslims conquered Palestine, they invited the exiled & persecuted Jews (exiled & persecuted by the Christians) right back in. They didn't have to, but they did. And it is because of this type of justice that many Jews in the Ottoman Empire elected to go to shariah courts rather than their own courts even though they had the option.
Ow, right, it's all the fault of the evil empirial west, I bet?
It's the evil westerners who have installed shariah laws in some of those countries, I bet?
Literally didn't say that. The Westerners have tried to prevent anything even resembling shariah (e.g. in Turkey, Egypt, Algeria, etc.).
What's next? ISIS was founded by Obama?
No, but Obama's evil Iran deal and not following through on his red line allowed the genocide of Sunni Muslims to get to this point. If only McCain won in 2008, we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion because he would've acted against genocide...since, unlike much of this forum, he is principled even if it means helping Muslims against someone touted as a "secularist". He actually would care about the genocidal bit to Assad regime's sectarian "secularism". And then ISIS would have been defeated right away (or wouldn't even have risen) because, instead of having to fight on like 10 fronts, the rebels would only have had to focus on ISIS. And it is only the Sunnis who can defeat ISIS (and not Sunnis like the YPG who persecute non-Kurds).
Not a single of those 600 went their for "humanitarian" reasons.
Now I know you're talking out of your behind. It's typical of Assadists, so I'm not surprised. I've learned to expect the utmost stupidity from Assadists. It's not a good look, especially combined with their pure evil.
You can't possibly know that not a single one of them went for humanitarian reasons. In fact, it is far more likely that a good majority (or all) of them did, besides ISIS fighters since 2014, just like they did for Bosnia, Afghanistan against the Soviets, in Chechnya, etc.
"Julian André Harinton, aka Abu Abdullah al-Belgiki, convert from Antwerp who most likely joined the Free Syrian Army and was killed in April 2012"
Belgian Fighters in Syria and Iraq – A Closer Look at the Converts
-he was killed in April 2012. Tell me about how it was extremism for him to fight against the genocidal dictator and give me a good reason why. Since you like the YPG so much, please either describe why the foreigners who joined it didn't go for humanitarian reasons & are just playing rambo.
Just for the lulz, Exhibit A of Assadist stupidity (this charlatan is actually considered an expert by Assadists on sarin attacks in Syria. They'll take from her but disregard what the UN says loooool):
The other thousands of "foreign fighters", are mostly the same.
1.) And on which study did you base your conclusion that makes the thousands of other foreign fighters fighting against Assad's regime the same as what you describe? Maybe in ISIS, sure, as we can see from their repeated and consistent behavior, but how did you reach that conclusion about any of the other groups (the vast majority of which are comprised mainly of locals)?
2.) Here is one foreigner:
Muslim Sheeshani has been fighting for most of his adult life both in his native Chechnya and in Syria. OGN asked him if he felt he has lost the best years of his life on battlefields. This is what he said...
One of the first things he said was, "In our religion, it is obligatory for men to help the weak and needy people who are oppressed. I have dedicated my life to helping the oppressed. Praise be to Allah, during my time in jihad, I haven't committed oppression or done anything that contradicts Islam. I have never had anything to do with terrorism or banditry and always have been trying to help oppressed people in Chechnya and here in Syria."
If anyone else in the world behaved and acted like him (minus him being a Muslim), he would be hailed a hero. But because his motivation for helping people is Islam (as opposed to, say, Christianity), and he has a big beard, and is religious, he's probably considered a terrorist and untrustworthy to many of those same people.
3.) I do agree that the tens of thousands (perhaps more) of foreign fighters for Assad (which comprise the majority of those fighting for him, since most locals do not fight for or support him) are degenerate, sectarian, genocidal pieces of turd. And I'm including the Christian Russians in that too, not just the Shia militias.
ISIS and al nusrah are basically made up of foreigners who seek to overthrow Assad and install brutal islamic shariah instead.
Idk about ISIS bc it is irrelevant to me when talking about the ranks of the Syrian opposition (since it's not included), but Nusra, when it existed, was not primarily made up of foreigners. 70% of it was comprised of Syrians.
"Brutal Islamic Shariah" -
1.) Shariah is not brutal. Surprise, surprise, yet another thing for which you're talking out of your behind.
2.) Even if they want to have an Islamic government, what's it to you? It's their country, the majority of Syrians are conservative Sunnis, and they're the ones undergoing a genocide. Why is what they want such a bad thing when it's their own country? P.S. the Syrian constitution already pays lip service to using Islam as a major source of legislation.
You can consider that an improvement if you want... I don't. To me, it's like replacing Stalin with Hitler.
1.) What you consider it to be doesn't matter. What matters is what the Syrian people want.
2.) It's like that to you because you're wrong. It's like replacing Hitler with the Jews of the Warsaw ghetto. Or like replacing the apartheid regime in South Africa with Nelson Mandela's group.
3.) Tell me in what way Idlib is just as bad as, if not worse, than Syria under Assad's control. Like I said, I'll be waiting forever because there is no way you can ever compare anything the rebels have done since 2011 with what Assad does in just a month.
None of this is relevant to the point I am making.
Um, it was all entirely relevant. You just didn't know how to answer it because you'd be forced to concede that Assad is worse by basically every metric.
1.) You were making the silly, unfounded point that the rebels would have done just as much damage had they had the means. I pointed out that they did have the means to imprison & torture people to death (including civilians), yet they mainly imprisoned combatants & the percentage (and numbers, importantly) of those they tortured to death is WAY BELOW the percentage (and numbers) of those imprisoned & tortured to death by the regime/allies (mainly non-combatants).
That fact alone crushes your silly statement but you're too proud to admit you were wrong. But it's more shameful to continue to go on with your wrong views when it justifies Assad's existence than it is to admit you were falsely accusing those of undergoing a genocide of being just as bad. It's okay to admit to the latter as long as you desist.
2.) And of course you'd ignore the actual Syrians living in Ghouta. That's what western Assadists do.
3.) I gave you a link showing the intention of foreign fighters against the regime. But of course you'd also ignore that.
I hope I've cleared that up enough for you to be able to understand it, though I think you'll continue to clutch onto your views because you refuse to believe religious Muslims could be better than a sectarian "secular" genocidal dictator.
But I'm not counting on a jihadi supporter to think clearly and objectively about this....
I'm not counting on a genocide supporter to think clearly and objectively about the Syrian genocide.
