Secular Argument Against Gay Marriage Before Courts

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I don't assume that allowing gay relationships opens the way for pedophilia. I'm showing you your own logic.

Ah yes, your (flawed) "understanding" of my logic.
 
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Ah yes, your (flawed) "understanding" of my logic.
How is it flawed? It follows exactly.

You believe that allowing gay marriages will somehow provide justification for inappropriate behavior with animals and pedophilia in marriage.

If you think that then how would you not think that allowing gay relationships would provide justification for inappropriate behavior with animals and pedophile relationships?
 
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How is it flawed? It follows exactly.

You believe that allowing gay marriages will somehow provide justification for inappropriate behavior with animals and pedophilia in marriage.

It's not your place to dictate my beliefs.

If you think that then how would you not think that allowing gay relationships would provide justification for inappropriate behavior with animals and pedophile relationships?

Why ask me? Let the pedophiles speak for themselves:
http://standupforthetruth.com/2013/07/it-begins-pedophiles-call-for-same-rights-as-homosexuals/
 
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It's not your place to dictate my beliefs.
I am not dictating your beliefs - I am pointing out that your beliefs are inconsistent.

If you're against legalising gay marriages for the reason that they open the door to inappropriate behavior with animals and pedophile relationships then you should also be against legalising gay relationships for the same reason.

I don't really care what they think.
 
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I am not dictating your beliefs - I am pointing out that your beliefs are inconsistent.

If you're against legalising gay marriages for the reason that they open the door to inappropriate behavior with animals and pedophile relationships then you should also be against legalising gay relationships for the same reason.

Fine, I'm in favor of making gay relationships illegal. Happy?

I don't really care what they think.

Why not? Don't you want to hear about how those who love someone should be allowed to without interference from government or anyone else who doesn't share their views?
 
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Fine, I'm in favor of making gay relationships illegal. Happy?
No. Because that means you're in favour of totalitarianism.

But you are consistent. Do you genuinely believe that now?

Why not? Don't you want to hear about how those who love someone should be allowed to without interference from government or anyone else who doesn't share their views?
Children cannot provide informed consent. Just like animals.
 
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No. Because that means you're in favour of totalitarianism.

I see. So in your view, I'm either in favor of pedophiles and those who molest animals, or I'm in favor of totalitarianism. Sounds like you just can't be pleased.

Children cannot provide informed consent. Just like animals.

Doesn't matter in the case for animals. They are possessions, just as a slave was during the time that was legal.
 
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I see. So in your view, I'm either in favor of pedophiles and those who molest animals, or I'm in favor of totalitarianism. Sounds like you just can't be pleased.
No. I don't believe that being in favour of gay marriage and gay relationships means you're in favour of opening the door to pedophilia. That's your claim (the former certainly is and the latter should be if you're consistent).

I was basically making the point that your argument against homosexual marriages here is bogus. Pedophiles will appeal for children-adult relationships regardless of whether or not homosexual marriage is legal.

But truly, do you actually believe now (as I spelled out your logic for you) that homosexual relationships should be illegal?

Doesn't matter in the case for animals. They are possessions, just as a slave was during the time that was legal.
We already restrict what pet owners can do with their animals. If I start torturing my animal I can be prosecuted and jailed.

By your logic allowing ownership of animals is a slippery slope towards inappropriate behavior with animals.
 
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I was basically making the point that your argument against homosexual marriages here is bogus. Pedophiles will appeal for children-adult relationships regardless of whether or not homosexual marriage is legal.

If you would actually read the material at the link I gave you, you will see that it's because of SSM being legalized that pedophiles are using the same tactics to get their own way. If you're not willing to read the material I show you, then you're not worth discussing this with any further.
 
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If you would actually read the material at the link I gave you, you will see that it's because of SSM being legalized that pedophiles are using the same tactics to get their own way. If you're not willing to read the material I show you, then you're not worth discussing this with any further.
They will use whatever they can. Be it SSM and without it appeal to relationships in general.
 
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