Yes, it does matter what I say and is record, since others can read it. I do believe in the future, sins in the future are forgiven if the person is accepting of God’s forgiveness.
Well, I was not talking in a general sense. I was referring in context to when you said this:
“I never said you were “automatically forgiven of future sins”.”
~ Quote by bling.
No offense, but I believe this is misleading because your statement above here makes it sound like you do not believe future sins are forgiven you, and yet, now you are admitting that you actually believe future sins is forgiven you. Just tell it to me straight next time when I call you out on a belief you hold to.
In any event, the teaching that future sin is forgiven you is unbiblical.
The Bible teaches only past sins are forgiven us (not future sins). Believers need to confess and forsake sin to continue to obtain forgiveness (or salvation). Here are the verses in the Bible that teach or imply that past sins only are forgiven: 2 Peter 1:9 KJB “But he that lacketh these...
www.christianforums.com
Yes, my salvation was conditional on my humbly accepting God’s forgiveness as pure undeserved charity.
This is how salvation starts and it only involves the forgiveness of past sins and not your future sins.
If future sins were forgiven, then the Parable of the Prodigal Son in Luke 15 and James 5:19-20 would be a lie.
Jesus warning against how sin can destroy our souls would be a lie.
The apostle Paul warning against how sin can destroy our souls would be a lie.
At least unintentional sins like we find in Lev. 5, but maybe others, but I would want to bring to the sinner’s attention all sins, so he can be humbled in asking for forgiveness and repent.
Yes, we are to seek forgiveness of all our past sins with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Any new sin is not automatically forgiven because of our past acceptance and repentance with Jesus Christ.
Believers must confess and forsake sin in order to have mercy (Proverbs 28:13).
I would say most people who call themselves “Christians” are not Christians. “Christian” is not some title given a person, but a descriptive term meaning “Christ like”, so most Christ like (Christians) are Christ like.
This is the biblical view. Narrow is the way that leads unto life, and few be there that find it.
What do you mean by: “Sin and still be saved”? We all have sinned.
Yes, most Christians believe they have sinned as a part of their old life. I also believe Christians can stumble on rare occasion as they mature, but they confess and forsake such sins and they strive to mature and overcome sin knowing that without holiness no man shall see the Lord. So one’s unregenerate life or life on the road to recovery is obviously not what I am talking about. I am talking about a mindset that Christians have today. You should know what I mean in this Laodicean age. But just in case they pulled the wool over your eyes, I am referring to the believers in Jude 1:4 who turn God’s grace into a license to sin or licentiousness. Meaning, they will say future sin is forgiven them, giving them a license to sin on some level or to treat sin with false consequences. In other words, Christians believe they will just be chastised in this life if they sin, and they will not lose their salvation by sin. Of course each Christian defines what level of sin is acceptable to them. But they all basically have the idea that they could lie or look at a woman in lust tomorrow because they are sinners, and they will be saved even if they do not confess and forsake such sins. Some will say you must confess and forsake such sins as a mark of a saved believer, but they will say you were never in any danger of falling into spiritual death, whereby one would need to repent and get their heart right with the Lord again. Both views is turning God’s grace into a license to sin. It’s not the biblical view of the real punishment of sin. If one commits sins like adultery, coveting, idolatry, murder, hate, they are in danger of hellfire and they need to repent and return to the Lord their God.
Like I might, sometimes watch something stupid on TV, instead of doing something helpful for others.
Loving the things of this world like movies and TV series is something that God will eventually weed out of your life if you give it time and ask for His help. Christian movies are a good alternative to help fill the gap.
Check out my recommendations here:
Please Read This Before Posting: Please do not mention movies such as Chronicles of Narnia or Lord of the Rings (that promote the sin of witchcraft). Please do not mention any movie that is clearly not obviously Christian. For example: The film called Signs is not a Christian movie even...
www.christianforums.com
Keep praying over 1 John 2:15-17 in fully understanding its meaning. Ask God for help on making this passage a reality someday.
Perhaps you meant goof off?
If so, what activities would be involved?
What does this mean?
Does the Bible say that if we do not pray enough we are in danger of hellfire?
Granted, prayer is key to not be led into temptation so as not to sin.
But if it is a sin and still be saved Christian praying, they need to understand the reality of the below verse.
Proverbs 28:9
“He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer
shall be abomination”
Go to sleep when I should be staying up praying. Really just doing anything Christ would not do in my place.
That is noble. Paul says we are to have the mind of Christ and Jesus never justified the idea that He could sin and still enter the Kingdom. Yet, when I talk with Christians today, they ask if I sin, which is no doubt a question asked to justify their own sin on a regular basis because they do not believe one can overcome sin as the Bible teaches. They also no doubt believe they are saved despite their committing sin all because they have a belief alone on Jesus as their Savior. So they hold to a view that they can sin on some level as a way of life as a believer, and yet, they believe they are saved.
I make excuses, but in the end ask God to forgive me and try to be more pleasing to God, next time.
Do you believe we need to overcome sin in order to make it into God’s Kingdom?
Revelation 22:14-15 says,
“Blessed
are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without
are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.”
I promise you it will not be for one unintentional moment mistake, since there is never just one bad seed in our hand, we sow.
So you are saying it is impossible to obey God?
Matthew 19:25-26 says,
”When his disciples heard
it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld
them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.”
Were you hell bound all the time in your past?
I am not a Univeralist. So yes. Most Christians believe they were not saved prior to accepting Jesus Christ. This does not prove you are correct by any means.
What about when David was goofing off walking on his rooftop when he should have been with his army or serving his family?
Whatever sin the Bible does not specifically condemn, then it is not really a sin that leads to hell then. David was abiding in spiritual death when he committed murder, and adultery, and he became alive again spiritually by seeking forgiveness with the Lord in Psalms 51.
God judges the hearts of people and is perfectly just, fair and merciful.
Yes, He can. Not sure how that proves your right.
I believe John is addressing false teacher, who would have been like the Pharisees (teaching obedience and not obeying themselves. Liars and hypocrites will not be saved.
I understand that sounds comforting to you, but what if it was more stricter in meaning than that?
Meaning, imagine if not keeping His commands applies to any believer and if they are not truly on that walk with Christ by keeping His commands, they are not abiding in spiritual life. That’s how I understand it. Meaning, if we are not keeping His commandments today and we claim to know Him, we are a liar. This applies to me, you, and every other believer on the planet. We have to keep His commands in this life and if not, we are not going to make it into the Kingdom. But Christianity teaches that all you have to do is believe in Jesus and nothing else and you are saved. No commandment keeping is required and they see that as works salvation.
God judges the hearts of people and is perfectly just, fair and merciful, I am not able.
Jesus says if we do not receive His words, those words will judge us on the last day in John 12:48. This means that Jesus (God) does expect us to be held accountable to what He said, and we should be able to judge ourselves to walk accordingly and not justify sin like the majority of Christianity out there.
If it is vitally necessary for a Christian to mentally ask for forgiveness, just prior to dying than my understand of God’s Love would cause God to miraculously allow each Christian that time to do so.
But it’s more than just seeking forgiveness as if it was something we must check off the box. It is our lifeline to staying forgiven (saved). This confessing of sin is done with the intention of forsaking sin and never desiring to do it again.
Does your understanding of God allow Him to provide that ability and time for each of us? I am not saying all previous Christian and now sinners would ask on their death bed for forgiveness.
I believe a person can accept Christ on their deathbed and be saved.
But if they say to themselves that is their plan while they live in sin, it’s not going to work.
God will know they desire to love their sin more than God.
You might have too liberal of a definition of Christian.
Not at all. There are self professing Christians (fake believers) and real genuine Christians.
Obviously self professors are not saved. The real Christians are saved.
There are also Christians who start out good, but they later either justify sin or false doctrine and later abide in spiritual death.
So it’s not how you start, but how you finish.
Believers must fight the good fight of faith and lay hold on eternal life.
But Christians today do not even know that we are supposed to be in a fight as a part of eternal life.
They are biblically illiterate, and they just follow whatever their pastor or church says.
If we are doing good stuff to avoid doing sins of omission that might be a sin, since we must do good, really being compelled by Love. 1 Cor 13: 1-3.
Luke 9:62 is basically telling you that if you put your hand to the plow (i.e., preaching the gospel), and you turn back you are not fit for the Kingdom of God. Meaning, if one turns back from spreading the good news of Jesus Christ to others, they are not going to enter God’s Kingdom. Plain and simple.
Matthew 25 in the Parable of the Sheep and Goats, it teaches that if we are not helping the poor in this life, we are not doing so unto Christ, and we will be told to go away into everlasting punishment. Meaning, we will not be saved, but we will face the Lake of Fire instead.
1 John 3:15 says if we hate our brother we are like a murderer and no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. 1 John 1:7 says if we walk in the light as He is in the light, the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. So it’s conditional. The indirect wording in 1 John 2:9-11 tells us that walking in the light = loving your brother. So we have to love our brother in order for the blood of Jesus to continue to cleanse us from all sin. This is why Jesus asked to Peter, if he love him three times and then concluded with stating how Peter was to feed His sheep (Loving them by nurturing them with the Word of God and meet their physical needs if he could or if applicable).
These are three major sins of omission that can keep us out of God’s Kingdom.
Granted, if we love Christ, it will be nature to do these things, but we must realize that these are actually sins that can keep us out of His Kingdom if we are not partaking of them on some level.