Noah's Flood was 23 ft (Gen 7:20)

[Nathan Poe]

Yep, it's all just desperate necessity. It's amazing how dogmatically AVET can declare something like this to be true and expects us to regard it as obvious, despite the Bible not even mentioning anything about it.

because for folks like AV and his ilk, the Bible is irrelvant -- it's all about power, and the perception (even self-perception) thereof.

As long as they feel like they can yank on God's leash and have Him do a trick whenever they want Him to, why should they care if it's in the Bible or not?

 

[Orogeny]

No.

Science works hard to make what they see fit what they think

 

[Jazer]

Interpreting as hills would mean that the King James and the American Standard translators made a common mistake.

The "hills" that we are talking about was mostly the dirt that was pushed by the glaciers. When the ice melted the "hills" held the water back for a while. Later in time they gave way and that is one common cause of floods. Mountains are formed by tectonic plates crashing into each other and there is no flood or water there at all. This is why we can find fossils that should be on the bottom of an ocean on top of a mountain. They were pushed up by the force of the plates.

 

[Jazer]

Will a picture do?John 17:17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Do you have a picture of the wind? john16:13 However, when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.

 

[mklhawley]

The "hills" that we are talking about was mostly the dirt that was pushed by the glaciers. When the ice melted the "hills" held the water back for a while. Later in time they gave way and that is one common cause of floods. Mountains are formed by tectonic plates crashing into each other and there is no flood or water there at all. This is why we can find fossils that should be on the bottom of an ocean on top of a mountain. They were pushed up by the force of the plates.

Hi Jazer,

The glacial hills, such as moraines and drumlins, could never hold back the glacial meltwaters. Glacial till is too permiable, which has an accelerating effect upon erosion. In a matter of days, rills would turn into escape channels for an ever increasing volume of stream discharge. Now, this has nothing to do with Genesis, since glaciation never occurred in the Middle East. The ancient Hebrews certainly were talking about the local hills in this case, but of a different origin.

Mike

 

[Jazer]

glaciation never occurred in the Middle East. The ancient Hebrews certainly were talking about the local hills in this case, but of a different origin.

Ok, but the current Black Sea deluge theory is that the flood was caused by water from the glaciers.

"In 1997, William Ryan and Walter Pitman published evidence that a massive flooding of the Black Sea occurred about 5600 BC through the Bosporus, following this scenario.[3] Before that date, glacial meltwater had turned the Black and Caspian Seas into vast freshwater lakes which were draining into the Aegean Sea. As glaciers retreated, some of the rivers emptying into the Black Sea declined in volume and changed course to drain into the North Sea"