Nikki Haley seeks to clarify cause of Civil War comments as backlash mounts

[RoBo1988]

My goodness! What a lousy thing to say.

What a true thing to say.

 

[RDKirk]

Good answer. But I dont know how the senator would respond to having their query called "irrelevant."

That wouldn't be calling the query irrelevant, it would be calling a personal opinion irrelevant. And it would speak to the larger umbrella issue: The personal opinion of a Justice ought to be irrelevant on every issue brought before the Court. The Constitution and the law as they are written and as they have been interpreted should always take precedence over personal opinion. That's not uncommon...a judge may personally think a defendant should go to prison for life, but the law may say five years.

 

[RDKirk]

I dont think she'd have the slightest problem recognizing the great things we get from a capitalist economy. She also recognizes the systems huge blind spots. Thats my sense of her anyway.

The question is: Will her ideology allow her to admit to them in public?

 

[Bradskii]

My goodness! What a lousy thing to say.

'You' being the country as a whole. If the majority of any given population knowingly votes for someone who is a complete klutz then that's the guy who then represents your country. He (or she) is the person you (the country) has seen fit to elect. 'You' actually wanted the guy. If the US, as a whole, isn't smart enough to make sure that there are people on the ballot actually worth voting for then who is to blame? You personally? Of course not. But you as a country?

What can I say? Them's the rules.

 

[Bradskii]

Good answer. But I dont know how the senator would respond to having their query called "irrelevant."

Her personal opinion was irrelevant. The question was relevant and likewise the answer.

 

[Bradskii]

The question is: Will her ideology allow her to admit to them in public?

In my opinion she wouldn't be worth voting for if she didn't. I don't want my politicians wearing a black hat or a white one. If they only see the world that way then there'll be problems down the line.

 

[ralliann]

That was the point if their people had not sold them to begin with there would have been no market A market has two sides supply and demand. No matter what the market is people, drugs video games whatever it is.

It is the same, MONEY. They were sold to make money, and enslaved to make money.

 

[RDKirk]

In my opinion she wouldn't be worth voting for if she didn't. I don't want my politicians wearing a black hat or a white one. If they only see the world that way then there'll be problems down the line.

I don't want my politicians that way either, but that's what we've got. It's a two-party system.

 

[DaisyDay]

'You' being the country as a whole. If the majority of any given population knowingly votes for someone who is a complete klutz then that's the guy who then represents your country. He (or she) is the person you (the country) has seen fit to elect. 'You' actually wanted the guy. If the US, as a whole, isn't smart enough to make sure that there are people on the ballot actually worth voting for then who is to blame? You personally? Of course not. But you as a country?

What can I say? Them's the rules.

Yeah, well, it’s still lousy

 

[Bradskii]

Yeah, well, it’s still lousy

Certainly depressing if you end up with someone you know doesn't deserve the position.

I have to say that there's never been someone holding the Prime Minister's position here that I didn't think was at least up to the job. Some I have vehemently disagreed with on policy. But...it was the will of the people and so be it. And whoever it was treated the position with respect. They held their positions honestly and did what they thought was best for the country. There hasn't been one that I would say that I was embarrassed to have as a representative of my country.

And with the obvious exception, I'd say the same about the US if I was American. But the wheels seem to have fallen off recently. I don't know why it's happened. And I don't know how you can solve it.

 

[wing2000]

Trump thinks the Civil War could have been prevented....

“The Civil War was so fascinating, so horrible,” Trump said. “So many mistakes were made. See, there was something I think could have been negotiated, to be honest with you. I think you could have negotiated that. All the people died, so many people died. You know, that was the disaster.”

Trump went on to describe the Civil War as “vicious” and suggested that “Abraham Lincoln, of course, if he negotiated it, you probably wouldn’t even know who Abraham Lincoln was.”

[...yea, if only Lincoln was the negotiator that Donald Trump is ]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/06/trump-says-civil-war-could-have-been-negotiated-historians-disagree/

 

[Pommer]

Trump thinks the Civil War could have been prevented....

“The Civil War was so fascinating, so horrible,” Trump said. “So many mistakes were made. See, there was something I think could have been negotiated, to be honest with you. I think you could have negotiated that. All the people died, so many people died. You know, that was the disaster.”

Trump went on to describe the Civil War as “vicious” and suggested that “Abraham Lincoln, of course, if he negotiated it, you probably wouldn’t even know who Abraham Lincoln was.”

[...yea, if only Lincoln was the negotiator that Donald Trump is ]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/06/trump-says-civil-war-could-have-been-negotiated-historians-disagree/

I’ve said before (here) that he wants to be a “civil-war” President, like Lincoln, arising from the ashes of a nation in total turmoil, victorious!
Xi will love seeing us fight one another; Putin too.

 

[Bradskii]

Trump thinks the Civil War could have been prevented....

“The Civil War was so fascinating, so horrible,” Trump said. “So many mistakes were made. See, there was something I think could have been negotiated, to be honest with you. I think you could have negotiated that. All the people died, so many people died. You know, that was the disaster.”

Trump went on to describe the Civil War as “vicious” and suggested that “Abraham Lincoln, of course, if he negotiated it, you probably wouldn’t even know who Abraham Lincoln was.”

In the same speech he had a shot at Haley.

'She's a globalist. She loves the globe'.

No, honest. He said that.

 

[Hans Blaster]

'She's a globalist. She loves the globe'.

 

[RoBo1988]

Haley has Judge Judy's endorsement.

Judge Judy endorses Nikki Haley in 2024 presidential election

The legendary television court figure said Nikki Haley has the "illusive quality of real common sense" in her endorsement.

www.usatoday.com