Man in women's locker room cites gender rule
- Thread starter Tallguy88
- Start date
Uncle Siggy
Promulgator of Annoying Tidbits of Information
Another book about this era is
And another good quote from a homosexual activist... “It was never a medical decision—and that’s why I think the action came so fast…It was a political move.” “That’s how far we’ve come in ten years. Now we even have the American Psychiatric Association running scared.”
(Barbara Gittings, Pro‐Sodomy Activist)
Upvote
0
Uncle Siggy
Promulgator of Annoying Tidbits of Information
You know how many "cited" things I've seen over the years that were pure garbage?
(If I had a dollar for every one of them I've seen I would be quite rich by now, most of them are just opinions by some political ideolog)...
Upvote
0
Do you know what a hermaphrodite is? You might want to look that up and tell me how it fits into your neat little package you describe as quoted. Please tell me all about their mental illness that takes place in their mind and how their DNA determines their sex.
Now what? Seems to me that a hermaphrodite kind of screws up your entire narrow classification system..
Upvote
0
Stop trying to make this a "left-right" issue. It's not. I assure you, I'm hard right, but still support treating transgender people with dignity and allowing their self determination.
I mean, you are capable of thinking about issues for yourself. You don't need to pigeonhole things as "left/right" to know what you think.
Upvote
0
Again and again, it always comes back to the public bathroom "arguement", and AGAIN I ask, what public bathrooms are all YOU people going to where people don't use stalls?
Upvote
0
Uncle Siggy
Promulgator of Annoying Tidbits of Information
The truth speaks for itself, it's up to people if they want to learn/embrace it or just fall back on their political ideology to tell them what to believe. Google is your friend...
Something I learned a long time ago is there are "usually" 3 sides to every story, the Pro lie, the Con lie and the Truth (which "usually' is found somewhere in between the other two).
Last edited:
Upvote
0
Uncle Siggy
Promulgator of Annoying Tidbits of Information
There seem to be quite a few of those here, so have you put them on "Ignore" or do you still read what they say to get your daily laughs???
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
Of course I know what a hermaphrodite is. That is a birth defect. Just like a extra appendage or blindness is. In that sad but very small minority case I believe it is best to leave the person alone until it can be better established by the body what the person's gender should be. I've read stories where they had surgery when very young, a lot of times when they were a baby but as they grew it was discovered they should have been the opposite sex. But that was a DNA problem as the DNA was defective and caused the issue. Transgenders do not have the DNA of the opposite sex. At least I haven't seen any scientific proof of it being a medical condition.
Upvote
0
Mayzoo
Well-Known Member
Declaring and believing that people are actually "left" or "right" makes one's life so much easier. They need to just look up how they or others feel about an issue rather than researching it and making a determination themselves or asking the other person about their reasons.
Upvote
0
One other thing I want to address is how transexuals are treated as people.
We as a society can treat people with respect while not catering to their illness. I find it interesting that we have great sympathy with the person who has cancer, but treat the mentally ill differently. We don't typically beat up blind people cause their blind, but we will beat up transgender people. That's just wrong. We have made some great progress in treating and helping the mentally ill. But we still have a long way to go. Mental illness still carries a stigma that physical illnesses do not.
I think instead of telling everyone that we have to help them believe in their delusions, we need to find ways to have more compassion for them. Stop calling them names and stop assaulting them. They are sick. Would we condone verbally abusing or physically assaulting a person who has cancer? Of course not.
My aim isn't to ostracise but to help. One of the things I've learned is that money talks. Very little has been done in regards to the treatment for these people when it comes to research and experimental treatment methods. The issue is its because it's such a small minority of people that have this condition. Money for research goes to the more prominent and acceptable projects. Such as global climate change or cancer or heart disease research. I would like to see more money funneled into medical research for the mentally ill.
The other problem we have is that transgender folks don't really push for that themselves. They don't see themselves as ill and so I think (I could be,wrong) they would have a problem with it. Just like they did back in the 70s. They don't want to be seen as ill. So why clamor for research when you can tell all of society they have to change for you including letting boys shower with girls at school or change with girls in a public swimming pool.
We as a society can treat people with respect while not catering to their illness. I find it interesting that we have great sympathy with the person who has cancer, but treat the mentally ill differently. We don't typically beat up blind people cause their blind, but we will beat up transgender people. That's just wrong. We have made some great progress in treating and helping the mentally ill. But we still have a long way to go. Mental illness still carries a stigma that physical illnesses do not.
I think instead of telling everyone that we have to help them believe in their delusions, we need to find ways to have more compassion for them. Stop calling them names and stop assaulting them. They are sick. Would we condone verbally abusing or physically assaulting a person who has cancer? Of course not.
My aim isn't to ostracise but to help. One of the things I've learned is that money talks. Very little has been done in regards to the treatment for these people when it comes to research and experimental treatment methods. The issue is its because it's such a small minority of people that have this condition. Money for research goes to the more prominent and acceptable projects. Such as global climate change or cancer or heart disease research. I would like to see more money funneled into medical research for the mentally ill.
The other problem we have is that transgender folks don't really push for that themselves. They don't see themselves as ill and so I think (I could be,wrong) they would have a problem with it. Just like they did back in the 70s. They don't want to be seen as ill. So why clamor for research when you can tell all of society they have to change for you including letting boys shower with girls at school or change with girls in a public swimming pool.
Upvote
0
Mayzoo
Well-Known Member
This public forum is not a classroom. This is a debate and discussion forum with specific guidelines. If you wish to be taken seriously, you need to provide sources for your claims. Until you choose to provide sources for your claims, your claims will stand as merely your isolated opinion.
This is a valid enough point, it is even in the "hints for effective debating" thread:
II. Citations
Arguments cannot stand alone. To make an effective argument, one must utilize logic and fact. To fulfill the latter, we often use citations.
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/some-helpful-hints-about-effective-debating.7425823/
Personally, I refuse to do the research for my claims, your claims, his claims, her claims, their claims, that guy over there claims, and that person ducking down over there claims. You see, that simply takes too much of my time. If all those other people do not value their claims enough to substantiate them, I do not value them enough to waste my time on them. It takes enough time to read posts, read the supporting citations for those posts, analyze the data, come to a conclusion, formulate my claim and then support my own claims. For those who choose to be lazy, I simply do not have the time to make up for their lack of initiative. I would suspect most self-sustaining adults do not have the time to make up for others lack of interest in completing their own work.
Last edited:
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
Uncle Siggy
Promulgator of Annoying Tidbits of Information
A very good point... And the reason is there are so many people out there that the first words that come out of their mouths is "That source/citation isn't credible" and use only their opinion to make that claim, no reality/facts are involved/provided. (This usually stems from their political ideology talking and their brain isn't engaged). So I.E. you're wasting your time on someone who doesn't want to learn...
If someone makes a statement/claim about something I'm not familiar with I will "Google" (I'm naturally a curious person and that leads to knowledge) to either increase or lessen what is stored in my brain, I.E. if what they said is credible it gets stored if it isn't it gets discarded...
The truth speaks for itself...
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
Jonathan Jarvis
Quoth The Raven
Going back to the OP.
You get off the coach at the service station. You're bursting to go. There is a long queue outside the Ladies but no queue for the Gents. Just as your starting to point Percy a group of women come into the Gents and dash into the cubicles muttering "Don't worry lads we've seen it all before.
Happened to me loads of times. No harm there other than a temporary disruption of the flow.
When you've got to go you've got to go. But what if it was the other way round?
You get off the coach at the service station. You're bursting to go. There is a long queue outside the Ladies but no queue for the Gents. Just as your starting to point Percy a group of women come into the Gents and dash into the cubicles muttering "Don't worry lads we've seen it all before.
Happened to me loads of times. No harm there other than a temporary disruption of the flow.
When you've got to go you've got to go. But what if it was the other way round?
Upvote
0
Similar threads
