Italy: Christians Told To 'Pray In Silence, Don't Disturb The African Migrants'

[Nithavela]

Is this an Italian thing? While granted, I haven't spent much time in a Catholic church in the last 15 years, but I was raised Catholic and I don't remember rosaries ever being said loudly (if aloud at all). Heck, I don't recall anyone praying or doing anything louder than a soft whisper when in the Church outside of services.

Maybe this can be answered when searches on the matter aren't drowned by the flood of lies surrounding this story. Give it a week.

By the way, it's gotten awfully quiet in here, hasn't it?

 

[Blondepudding]

I think that's wonderful. Unless someone can convince me why silent prayer is bad.

I'm sure if more was wanted about this story members here can seek it out. Google


A Catholic church years ago in Venice became a mosque every Friday so that Muslims could offer their prayers up during that day. I don't know how this latest news regarding immigrants from Africa would be a surprise. Isn't Francis teaching ecumenism in his capacity as the first Jesuit pope?

 

[Belk]

I'm sure if more was wanted about this story members here can seek it out. Google


A Catholic church years ago in Venice became a mosque every Friday so that Muslims could offer their prayers up during that day. I don't know how this latest news regarding immigrants from Africa would be a surprise. Isn't Francis teaching ecumenism in his capacity as the first Jesuit pope?

Can you tell us where it is reported that these migrants are Muslim or why that matters?

 

[Blondepudding]

Can you tell us where it is reported that these migrants are Muslim or why that matters?

Curtailment of religious rights? Christians told to pray silently in Italian church so as not to disturb Muslim migrants

 

[Tallguy88]

What a silly idea, praying in silence. ..and not at all what Jesus wanted. Christians need to get up to the front and pray loudly so that all can hear. They should especially make sure they thank God for not being a poor heathen refugee.

You're a Catholic. You know a communal recitation of the Rosary is a very common thing, especially at a Catholic Church.

Also, question: are these migrants being housed in the Nave of the church? They don't have a parish hall they can stay in so as not to disrupt the religious activities of the church?

 

[Tallguy88]

I think that's wonderful. Unless someone can convince me why silent prayer is bad.

Communal prayers cannot be effectively offered silently. At least one person needs to be speaking the prayers. The rest either pray along silently, or pray aloud part of the prayer if it is being offered responsorily (which the Rosary often is).

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

You're a Catholic. You know a communal recitation of the Rosary is a very common thing, especially at a Catholic Church.

Also, question: are these migrants being housed in the Nave of the church? They don't have a parish hall they can stay in so as not to disrupt the religious activities of the church?

I know, and I admit to being a bit snarky, I think the preponderance of threads like this claiming Christian persecution got to me a but, especially when as often is the case, there's much more to the story. Nithavela's post cleared up the details as to why this situation was a lot more reasonable than implied, I think.

 

[Blondepudding]

I think if Catholic's read the articles here the word, reasonable, probably isn't part of their thought process.

 

[Belk]

Curtailment of religious rights? Christians told to pray silently in Italian church so as not to disturb Muslim migrants

Funny how it appears they are just assuming the migrants are Muslim as well. Not to mention asserting some "right" to worship publically.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Was this a statement of an ongoing policy along the lines of "as long as there are migrants being housed here, no praying aloud," or was it a one time thing such as some of the migrants needing a quiet time due to being sick or traumatized or having worked a night shift or having napping youngsters.

I recall when visiting the chapel at a monastery with a tour group, one of the sisters interrupted her prayers to come speak to us. We apologized, but she replied that it was always preferable to do a good deed rather than pray if the opportunity presented itself. So, in that spirit, it would be better to pray in silence than to wake or disturb someone in need of hospitality. Yes?

 

[Belk]

Was this a statement of an ongoing policy along the lines of "as long as there are migrants being housed here, no praying aloud," or was it a one time thing such as some of the migrants needing a quiet time due to being sick or traumatized or having worked a night shift or having napping youngsters.

I recall when visiting the chapel at a monastery with a tour group, one of the sisters interrupted her prayers to come speak to us. We apologized, but she replied that it was always preferable to do a good deed rather than pray if the opportunity presented itself. So, in that spirit, it would be better to pray in silence than to wake or disturb someone in need of hospitality. Yes?

They were using the church as a processing center and they asked people to remain quite so there was not a cacophony while people were trying to explain the process.

 

[Glass*Soul]

They were using the church as a processing center and they asked people to remain quite so there was not a cacophony while people were trying to explain the process.

Thank you.

 

[Blondepudding]

They were using the church as a processing center and they asked people to remain quite so there was not a cacophony while people were trying to explain the process.

Where in any article posted is it said that this is only a processing center for the African immigrants? I must have missed that. Thank you in advance.

 

[rambot]

You're a Catholic. You know a communal recitation of the Rosary is a very common thing, especially at a Catholic Church.

Also, question: are these migrants being housed in the Nave of the church? They don't have a parish hall they can stay in so as not to disrupt the religious activities of the church?

Perhaps that area is full. If I recall this is happenning in that port city that is taking the WILD majority of mediterreanean refugees.

 

[mmksparbud]

Where in any article posted is it said that this is only a processing center for the African immigrants? I must have missed that. Thank you in advance.

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[Blondepudding]

I just love that --hyena is it???----crack up every time I see it!

Me too. Yes, it's a hyena.

 

[mmksparbud]

Me too. Yes, it's a hyena.

I want to enlarge it, frame it, and hang it on my front door!!!

 

[Blondepudding]

I want to enlarge it, frame it, and hang it on my front door!!!

You can do that. Cafe Press lets you make your own thing. Feel free to save it and have fun.
I like it as a bumper sticker myself. Great for that tailgater on the edge of breaking into road rage.

Imagine the expression on the face of the first Jehovah Witness that thinks to knock.

 

[TheBear]

What a silly idea, praying in silence. ..and not at all what Jesus wanted. Christians need to get up to the front and pray loudly so that all can hear. They should especially make sure they thank God for not being a poor heathen refugee.

Whatever they normally do in that church, whether it be singing, chanting, praying or reciting out loud, and whether you or I agree with it or not, it's their church and that's what the congregants do and have been doing for a long time before those ungrateful and demanding invaders "refugees" stepped foot in that welcoming church. If it were me, I'd kick them out once they started acting like demanding, petulant children, (and I guarantee they didn't act that way when they first begged for relief), direct them to a Krishna or Buddha temple, and see how that works out.

 

[Mountain_Girl406]

Whatever they normally do in that church, whether it be singing, chanting, praying or reciting out loud, and whether you or I agree with it or not, it's their church and that's what the congregants do and have been doing for a long time before those ungrateful and demanding invaders "refugees" stepped foot in that welcoming church. If it were me, I'd kick them out once they started acting like demanding, petulant children, (and I guarantee they didn't act that way when they first begged for relief), direct them to a Krishna or Buddha temple, and see how that works out.

Did you read the entire story? Additional posts give more details about who was requesting quiet, when, and why.