Freedom of speech

[Moxie123]

What if youre wrong?

Eyewitness certainty turns out wrong all the time. Maybe my ball crossed paths with another, and its the other one that hit your car, yet to you it looked 100% like mine.

So, youve sworn it was mine. Ive sworn it wasnt. What happens next?

You hit it from your front yard next door and I was watching you.

 

[Moxie123]

And if he swears that it wasn't his golf ball, then what?

He is a liar.

 

[Moxie123]

Bottom line is, if that man lies after I have a written sworn statement that I saw him hit that golfball through my windshield from next door, my claim and my court is still the highest one.

 

[durangodawood]

You hit it from your front yard next door and I was watching you.

I'm asking you what happens in the situation I described, not some other situation.

 

[durangodawood]

Bottom line is, if that man lies after I have a written sworn statement that I saw him hit that golfball through my windshield from next door, my claim and my court is still the highest one.

Who determines which one of us is the liar?

 

[bhsmte]

He is a liar.

Prove it.

 

[bhsmte]

Bottom line is, if that man lies after I have a written sworn statement that I saw him hit that golfball through my windshield from next door, my claim and my court is still the highest one.

Who determines whether he is lying, or you are lying?

 

[bhsmte]

You hit it from your front yard next door and I was watching you.

No. The neighbor saw you through a golf ball through your window and then tried to blame it on him.

 

[durangodawood]

Bottom line is, if that man lies after I have a written sworn statement that I saw him hit that golfball through my windshield from next door, my claim and my court is still the highest one.

So to sum up, weve got 4 scenarios:

A. Moxie makes a truthful claim against Bhamster in his private court of record (PCOR). Bhamster concurs with your claim.

B. Dave makes a claim in his PCOR against Bhamster in which Dave genuinely believes he's being truthful. But in reality, the claim is false because what Dave was certain he really saw, wasnt quite what actually happened. Natually, Bhamster diputes Dave's claim.

C. Mendax knowingly makes a false claim in his PCOR against Bhamster. Bhamster of course diputes this claim.

D. Moxie makes a true claim against Mendax in his PCOR. Mendax lies and disputes the claim.
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The outcome of A should be obvious... to the point that a PCOR should not even be necessary as long as Bhamster is a decent moral person. He will simply volunteer proper restitution.

But what happens in the case of B?
And in the case of C?
And D?
Who decides which persons claim is true?

 

[bhsmte]

So to sum up, weve got 4 scenarios:

A. Moxie makes a truthful claim against Bhamster in his private court of record (PCOR). Bhamster concurs with your claim.

B. Dave makes a claim in his PCOR against Bhamster in which Dave genuinely believes he's being truthful. But in reality, the claim is false because what Dave was certain he really saw, wasnt quite what actually happened. Natually, Bhamster diputes your claim.

C. Mendax knowingly makes a false claim in his PCOR against Bhamster. Bhamster of course diputes his claim.

D. Moxie makes a true claim against Mendax in his PCOR. Mendax lies and disputes the claim.
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The outcome of A should be obvious... to the point that a PCOR should not even be necessary as long as Bhamster is a decent moral person. He will simply volunteer proper restitution.

But what happens in the case of B?
And in the case of C?
And D?
Who decides which persons claim is true?

The magic 8 ball???