Flood Geology

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I said the earth has been in existence since 4004 BC.

The more you argue against that, the more you're going to confuse yourself.

And others.

Let's take this slowly then.

So, if the Earth has been in existence since 4004 BC, the Earth was created 6025 years ago. Is that a true statement, yes or no?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why do I need to create a link to every post you make where you mentioned embedded history?

You can't.

So I wouldn't worry about it.

Just enjoy the sounds of the crickets chirping.

 

[dlamberth]

4. Age is also a noun, and nouns can be embedded into other nouns.

I think that seeing age as nothing more than an noun is pretty short sighted.

I'm pretty certain that my and your own decades of life experiences is not a noun. That's because with age comes life experiences.

 

[AV1611VET]

Let's take this slowly then.

Sure thing.

You can confuse yourself slowly, or quickly, it's your choice.

And I'll help you as much as I possibly can by answering HONESTLY.

So, if the Earth has been in existence since 4004 BC, the Earth was created 6025 years ago. Is that a true statement, yes or no?

Yes.

Now say or ask something stupid.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think that seeing age as nothing more than an noun is pretty short sighted.

You can't embed verbs into nouns, no matter how good your sight is.

Unless, of course, you want gerunds.

I'm pretty certain that my and your own decades of life experiences is not a noun.

Are you equally pretty certain that you and I both GREW as old as we are now (I'm 67), and didn't have our ages embedded into us?

That's because with age comes life experiences.

And life experiences leaves behind a trail of history.

But embedded age does not.

It is maturity WITHOUT HISTORY.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Yes.

So if the Earth has been in existence for 6025 years, does that tally up with dinosaur bones dated to be from 65 million years ago?

 

[AV1611VET]

So if the Earth has been in existence for 6025 years, does that tally up with dinosaur bones dated to be from 65 million years ago?

No.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No.

Good progress.

So, if those numbers don't mesh (6025 years vs 65,000,000 years) then one must be wrong, since the latter cannot exist in the same time frame as the former? Yes or no.

 

[AV1611VET]

Good progress.

So, if those numbers don't mesh (6025 years vs 65,000,000 years) then one must be wrong, since the latter cannot exist in the same time frame as the former? Yes or no.

Before I answer this, I'd like to know what dinosaur bones have to do with the Creation Week.

Now to answer your question: I believe your dating methods are flawed. I don't know where the flaws are, but I believe they are flawed.

And a word of caution: If you continue along this side-issue of what transpired after the Creation Week, you're going to get confused.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Before I answer this, I'd like to know what dinosaur bones have to do with the Creation Week.

Now to answer your question: I believe your dating methods are flawed. I don't know where the flaws are, but I believe they are flawed.

And a word of caution: If you continue along this side-issue of what transpired after the Creation Week, you're going to get confused.

I very much doubt I'll get confused but let's try and answer the question. This isn't about Creation Week, just answer the question:

So, if those numbers don't mesh (6025 years vs 65,000,000 years) then one must be wrong, since the latter cannot exist in the same time frame as the former? Yes or no.

 

[dlamberth]

You can't embed verbs into nouns, no matter how good your sight is.

Unless, of course, you want gerunds.

Just an FYI: For American Indians and I believe most indigenous cultures, they experienced everything, trees, animals, rocks, mountains..ect...as Verbs. That's also my spiritual trajectory as a Panenthesit. So where you say noun I say verb.

Are you equally pretty certain that you and I both GREW as old as we are now (I'm 67), and didn't have our ages embedded into us?

Yes I'm certain of my life experiences.
I don't believe God has the capabilities to lie about such things.
There's a thing in God about Truth, especially Divine Truth that makes it impossible for less than honest and upfront presentations. And I take anything less than that is not being from God. The Earth has shown great age. The Universe even of a greater age. That's what God has shown us.

By the way, I've got a few years on you.

And life experiences leaves behind a trail of history.

But embedded age does not.

It is maturity WITHOUT HISTORY.

For something without history, it's that history of the Earth from which the geologist are able to find the oil and other minerals that we use.

 

[AV1611VET]

So, if those numbers don't mesh (6025 years vs 65,000,000 years) then one must be wrong, since the latter cannot exist in the same time frame as the former? Yes or no.

As applies to dinosaur bones, YES.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

As applies to dinosaur bones, YES.

Now you see why people, such as myself, easily and readily call your 'embedded age' stuff 'fake history'. Because two things that contradict each other cannot exist at the same time. It is impossible to explain a 14.5 billion year old Earth in light of the claim of a 6025 year old Earth. It does not work.

And unlike you, I refuse to accept the idea of my God being deceiver and him putting fake history into the world to fool us.

 

[AV1611VET]

For something without history, it's that history of the Earth from which the geologist are able to find the oil and other minerals that we use.

Your history is flawed.

You believe oil was FORMED over a period of eons, whereas I believe God put the oil ALREADY PERFECT in the ground during the Creation Week.

 

[AV1611VET]

Now you see why people, such as myself, easily and readily call your 'embedded age' stuff 'fake history'. Because two things that contradict each other cannot exist at the same time. It is impossible to explain a 14.5 billion year old Earth in light of the claim of a 6025 year old Earth. It does not work.

And unlike you, I refuse to accept the idea of my God being deceiver and him putting fake history into the world to fool us.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Thanks for the QED.

I mean, we could both be 100% wrong on this and only find out either on Judgement Day or when we die.

I'll still call your claim a nonsensical belief though since I can't see why God would do such a thing.

 

[dlamberth]

And unlike you, I refuse to accept the idea of my God being deceiver and him putting fake history into the world to fool us.

This is totally 100% what it's about for me and why I reject AV's argument.

 

[AV1611VET]

I mean, we could both be 100% wrong on this and only find out either on Judgement Day or when we die.

I'll still call your claim a nonsensical belief though since I can't see why God would do such a thing.

Okie dokie.

 

[AV1611VET]

This is totally 100% what it's about for me and why I reject AV's argument.

I'd say part of the reason you reject it, is because you don't understand it.

But even if you did, I still think you would reject it on principle.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'd say part of the reason you reject it, is because you don't understand it.

But even if you did, I still think you would reject it on principle.

No, we understand what you say fine. We just find the idea nonsensical and goes against what we know and believe about God.