Flood Geology

[Estrid]

Or it might be that, and this is a crazy idea, that your position is completely nonsensical in the face of the evidence we actually have and that your position of embedded age is just an attempt to force fit that evidence into your idea of the Earth being only 6,000 years old when it clearly isn't.

That helps explain why creationists always
claim bad faith on the part of actual researchers.

 

[dlamberth]

And as I pointed out, you even confused dlamberth with your line of questioning.

Now he's confused even more.

Thanks for nothing.

Could you help us out and please clarify as clearly as you can?

 

[AV1611VET]

Or it might be that, and this is a crazy idea, that your position is completely nonsensical in the face of the evidence we actually have and that your position of embedded age is just an attempt to force fit that evidence into your idea of the Earth being only 6,000 years old when it clearly isn't.

Show me where I said the earth is only 6000 years old.

You're confused too.

 

[AV1611VET]

That would be imaginary age.

Looks like Merle has you confused too.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Show me where I said the earth is only 6000 years old.

You're confused too.

To say that it was created 6000 years ago, but has been in embedded with billions of years of history, still means that it was created 6000 years ago.

You say it every time you speak about it. No-one is confused. We are saying what you say, but just pointing out that it's a nonsensical, extra-Biblical and non-Biblical position.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Looks like Merle has you confused too.

No, they're right. It's not real age. It's fake.

 

[AV1611VET]

Could you help us out and please clarify as clearly as you can?

1. Embedded Age = maturity without history.

2. Apparent Age can take a hike: it involves God planting fake fossils into His creation.

3. Earth is as old as God willed it; but it has only been in existence since 4004 BC.

4. Age is also a noun, and nouns can be embedded into other nouns.

 

[AV1611VET]

To say that it was created 6000 years ago, but has been in embedded with billions of years of history, still means that it was created 6000 years ago.

That's YOU saying that, not I.

You say it every time you speak about it.

That's YOU hearing that.

No-one is confused.

I beg to differ.

We are saying what you say,

Not even close.

... but just pointing out that it's a nonsensical, extra-Biblical and non-Biblical position.

YOUR version of it is, not mine.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, they're right. It's not real age. It's fake.

Would you know the difference?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That's YOU saying that, not I.



That's YOU hearing that.



I beg to differ.



Not even close.



YOUR version of it is, not mine.

No, it's all what you say and what others can plainly see. Saying "it has only been in existence since 4004 BC" means it was created that long ago. That is what you say in plain simple English.

No-one is confused.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Would you know the difference?

You definitely wouldn't since you claim God created fake history.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, it's all what you say and what others can plainly see.

What you see is not what I say.

Entropy is strong on this one, isn't it?

Saying "it has only been in existence since 4004 BC" means it was created that long ago.

The earth has only been in existence since 4004 BC, and that means it was created that long ago.

Congratulations for getting something right for a change.

That is what you say in plain simple English.

You betcha I do.

No-one is confused.

Except Merle, dlamberth, and you (so far).

 

[AV1611VET]

You definitely wouldn't since you claim God created fake history.

I'd accuse you of lying, but since you're confused, I won't.

I'll just ask you to link me to where I said that, and let the crickets chirp where they may.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What you see is not what I say.

Not at all. Of all things, you are a straightshooter in what you say and you don't use double-speak.
Although in this situation, the only one who's making that claim is you.

The earth has only been in existence since 4004 BC, and that means it was created that long ago.

Congratulations for getting something right for a change.

So we're only wrong in that the Earth WASN'T created 6000 years ago, it was created 4004 years ago. Good to know.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'd accuse you of lying, but since you're confused, I won't.

I'll just ask you to link me to where I said that, and let the crickets chirp where they may.

Your claim of embedded history is tantamount to fake history.
If the Earth hasn't been in existence for 14.5 billion years and only for 4004 years, then anything we see is not real history. It is fake history.

 

[AV1611VET]

So we're only wrong in that the Earth WASN'T created 6000 years ago, it was created 4004 years ago. Good to know.

Wow -- just wow.

You're confusing yourself even further.

First you say I said the earth was created in 4004 BC.

And when I agree, then you think I said it was created 4004 years ago.

That's sad.

That's very sad.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Wow -- just wow.

You're confusing yourself even further.

First you say I said the earth was created in 4004 BC.

And when I agree, then you think I said it was created 4004 years ago.

That's sad.

That's very sad.

... BWAHAHA!!

Yup. That was a bad one, now that you actually point it out. That's entirely on me. This is what 4 weeks of bad sleep will do to me.

So that's 6025 years ago. You're still saying the Earth was created just over 6000 years ago. Even if it is only 25 extra years, that's still a creation with fake history.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your claim of embedded history is tantamount to fake history.
If the Earth hasn't been in existence for 14.5 billion years and only for 4004 years, then anything we see is not real history. It is fake history.

I'm waiting for that link that you can't find.

 

[AV1611VET]

... BWAHAHA!!

Yup. That was a bad one, now that you actually point it out. That's entirely on me. This is what 4 weeks of bad sleep will do to me.

So that's 6025 years ago. You're still saying the Earth was created just over 6000 years ago. Even if it is only 25 extra years, that's still a creation with fake history.

I said the earth has been in existence since 4004 BC.

The more you argue against that, the more you're going to confuse yourself.

And others.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I'm waiting for that link that you can't find.

Why do I need to create a link to every post you make where you mentioned embedded history? Or do you want to me to link to two pages back where you say God put the dinosaurs on the Ark, had them released AFTER he cleaned up the place after the Flood and then somehow all the bones ended up in lower layers than what they would be?