Partial Preterist Only "En Route to Global Occupation" World Government

[Postvieww]

After reading through most of the posts here it appears many of the disagreements, are over semantics, terminology, and how much real estate AC will actually control.

Here are some facts to consider, some have already been discussed.

1. Islam desires and is doing everything in its power to rule over the entire earth, slaughtering Christians around the world daily.

2. The current Pope is promoting a one world government as well as trying to unite different religions. Even some in evangelical circles are promoting this.

3. The United Nations has the same goal of uniting the world under its leadership.

4. Out of open public view different groups such as the Bilderberg’s, Freemasons and countless others are working towards the same end.

All of these efforts are promoted from one source, that is the enemy, satan. Those that believe our world is just business as usual and we are not racing at a breakneck speed to some kind of climax are living in a delusional state of existence.

 

[Psalm3704]

Benjamin Newton and John Darby worked together for many years as leaders of the Plymouth Brethren movement. However, when Newton could not accept Darby's adoption of the "Secret Rapture" doctrine of the Irvingites or Darby's division of scripture into that for Israel and that for the Church, Darby make a personal attack on Newton.

Using only 1 Thessalonians 4-5, prove to us you don't have a John Darby fetish.

Origin of the Pretrib Rapture Doctrine
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/pretrib_history.pdf

Grant Jeffrey’s revision of early Church Posttrib viewpoints
http://www.answersinrevelation.org/Jeffrey.pdf

PROPHETIC DEVELOPMENTS
with particular reference to the early Brethren Movement.
F. Roy Coad (Brethren Historian) read pages 10-26
http://brethrenhistory.org/qwicsitePro/php/docsview.php?docid=418

Genesis of Dispensational Theology (on YouTube)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee4RS5pDntQ

Left Behind or Led Astray?
http://www.leftbehindorledastray.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9iRT91_pyo

Who Confirmed The Covenant?
http://christianmediaresearch.com/node/1023

What is New Covenant Theology?

How in the world did I forget to mention your one-size-fits-all youtube videos you constantly plaster all over this forum?

I'm sure you'll answer with a rebuttal on the verses below.

Matthew 26:28, Matthew 25:31, Matthew 25:32, Matthew 25:33, Hebrews 8:6, Hebrews 8:13, Hebrews 12:24, Hebrews 13:20, Romans 11:27,Jeremiah 31:31, Jeremiah 31:32, Jeremiah 31:33, Jeremiah 31:34, James 1:1, James 1:2, James 1:3, Daniel 9:24, Daniel 9:27, John 5:27, John 5:28, John 5:29, John 5:30.










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[BABerean2]

How in the world did I forget to mention your one-size-fits-all youtube videos you constantly plaster all over this forum?

I am obviously the problem, with my "one-size-fits-all..."

You on the other hand would be...
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[SilverBlade]

I don't think there can be a one world government.

Look at the leaders today: They can't agree on the simplest thing. I bet they can't agree on what kind of donuts to order when they are at these global leadership meetings like the United Nations.

There has to be a mountain of changes in every government on earth in order to agree on a single global one. I see that as a near impossibility..

 

[keras]

I don't think there can be a one world government.

Look at the leaders today: They can't agree on the simplest thing. I bet they can't agree on what kind of donuts to order when they are at these global leadership meetings like the United Nations.
There has to be a mountain of changes in every government on earth in order to agree on a single global one. I see that as a near impossibility..

Bible prophecy is clear: there will be a 10 region world government formed in the future. Daniel 7:23-24, Revelation 17:12-13
Re read the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17 How will the world look after the Day of the Lord's wrath? Many other prophesies describe that terrible Day and it will be a world changer. Many will die, but the survivors will see the best way to restore law and order, will be to establish a OWG.
But we who love the Lord have His great promises of protection on that Day and of our gathering into all of the holy Land. Look forward to it!

 

[Gnarwhal]

2. The current Pope is promoting a one world government as well as trying to unite different religions. Even some in evangelical circles are promoting this.

No.

 

[Postvieww]

No.

YES

https://shortlittlerebel.wordpress....en-hide-it-he-calls-for-one-world-government/

https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12819.2.0.0/pope-calls-for-new-world-government

 

[Gnarwhal]

I don't acknowledge either of those as credible sources.

 

[Postvieww]

I don't acknowledge either of those as credible sources.

Maybe you can trust this source.

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Thursday, June 18, 2015

Overview of the Encyclical Laudato si'


Vatican City, 18 June 2015 (VIS) – The following text offers an overview of the 191 pages of the Encyclical Laudato si' and its key points, along with a summary of each of its six chapters (“What is happening to our common home”, “The Gospel of Creation”, “The human roots of the ecological crisis”, “Integral ecology”, “Lines of approach and action”, and “Ecological education and spirituality”). The Encyclical concludes with an interreligious prayer for our earth and a Christian prayer for Creation.


“What kind of world do we want to leave to those who come after us, to children who are now growing up?” (160). This question is at the heart of Laudato si’ (May You be praised), the anticipated Encyclical on the care of the common home by Pope Francis. “This question does not have to do with the environment alone and in isolation; the issue cannot be approached piecemeal”. This leads us to ask ourselves about the meaning of existence and its values at the basis of social life: “What is the purpose of our life in this world? What is the goal of our work and all our efforts? What need does the earth have of us?” “Unless we struggle with these deeper issues – says the Pope – I do not believe that our concern for ecology will produce significant results”-.


The Encyclical takes its name from the invocation of St. Francis, “Praise be to you, my Lord”, in his Canticle of the Creatures. It reminds us that the earth, our common home “is like a sister with whom we share our life and a beautiful mother who opens her arms to embrace us”. We have forgotten that “we ourselves are dust of the earth; our very bodies are made up of her elements, we breathe her air and we receive life and refreshment from her waters.”


Now, this earth, mistreated and abused, is lamenting, and its groans join those of all the forsaken of the world. Pope Francis invites us to listen to them, urging each and every one – individuals, families, local communities, nations and the international community – to an “ecological conversion”, according to the expression of St. John Paul II. We are invited to “change direction” by taking on the beauty and responsibility of the task of “caring for our common home”. At the same time, Pope Francis recognises that “there is a growing sensitivity to the environment and the need to protect nature, along with a growing concern, both genuine and distressing, for what is happening to our planet”. A ray of hope flows through the entire Encyclical, which gives a clear message of hope. “Humanity still has the ability to work together in building our common home”. “Men and women are still capable of intervening positively”. “All is not lost. Human beings, while capable of the worst, are also capable of rising above themselves, choosing again what is good, and making a new start”.


Pope Francis certainly addresses the Catholic faithful, quoting St. John Paul II: “Christians in their turn “realise that their responsibility within creation, and their duty towards nature and the Creator, are an essential part of their faith”“. Pope Francis proposes specially “to enter into dialogue with all people about our common home”. The dialogue runs throughout the text and in chapter 5 it becomes the instrument for addressing and solving problems. From the beginning, Pope Francis recalls that “other Churches and Christian communities – and other religions as well – have also expressed deep concern and offered valuable reflections” on the theme of ecology. Indeed, such contributions expressly come in, starting with that of “the beloved Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew”, extensively cited in numbers 8-9. On several occasions, then, the Pope thanks the protagonists of this effort – individuals as well as associations and institutions. He acknowledges that “the reflections of numerous scientists, philosophers, theologians and civic groups, all […] have enriched the Church’s thinking on these questions”. He invites everyone to recognize “the rich contribution which the religions can make towards an integral ecology and the full development of humanity”.


The itinerary of the Encyclical is mapped out in n. 15 and divided into six chapters. It starts by presenting the current situation based on the best scientific findings available today, next, there is a review of the Bible and Judeo-Christian tradition. The root of the problems in technocracy and in an excessive self-centredness of the human being are analysed. The Encyclical proposes an “integral ecology, which clearly respects its human and social dimensions”, inextricably linked to the environmental question. In this perspective, Pope Francis proposes to initiate an honest dialogue at every level of social, economic and political life, that builds transparent decision-making processes, and recalls that no project can be effective if it is not animated by a formed and responsible conscience. Ideas are put forth to aid growth in this direction at the educational, spiritual, ecclesial, political and theological levels. The text ends with two prayers; one offered for sharing with everyone who believes in “God who is the all-powerful Creator”, and the other to those who profess faith in Jesus Christ, punctuated by the refrain “Praise be to you!” which opens and closes the Encyclical.


Several main themes run through the text that are addressed from a variety of different perspectives, traversing and unifying the text: the intimate relationship between the poor and the fragility of the planet, the conviction that everything in the world is connected, the critique of new paradigms and forms of power derived from technology, the call to seek other ways of understanding the economy and progress, the value proper to each creature, the human meaning of ecology, the need for forthright and honest debate, the serious responsibility of international and local policies, the throwaway culture and the proposal of a new lifestyle.


Chapter 1 – WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COMMON HOME (Pollution and climate change; Pollution, refuse and the culture of waste; Climate as a common good; The issue of water; Loss of biodiversity; Decline in the quality of human life and the breakdown of society; Global inequality; Weak responses; A variety of opinions).


The chapter presents the most recent scientific findings on the environment as a way to listen to the cry of creation, “to become painfully aware, to dare to turn what is happening to the world into our own personal suffering and thus to discover what each of us can do about it”. It thus deals with “several aspects of the present ecological crisis”.


Pollution and climate change: “Climate change is a global problem with serious implications, environmental, social, economic, political and for the distribution of goods; it represents one of the principal challenges facing humanity in our day”. If “the climate is a common good, belonging to all and meant for all”, the greatest impact of this change falls on the poorest, but “many of those who possess more resources and economic or political power seem mostly to be concerned with masking the problems or concealing their symptoms”. “Our lack of response to these tragedies involving our brothers and sisters points to the loss of that sense of responsibility for our fellow men and women upon which all civil society is founded”.


The issue of water: the Pope clearly states that “access to safe drinkable water is a basic and universal human right, since it is essential to human survival and, as such, is a condition for the exercise of other human rights”. To deprive the poor of access to water means to deny “the right to a life consistent with their inalienable dignity”.


Loss of biodiversity: “Each year sees the disappearance of thousands of plant and animal species which we will never know, which our children will never see, because they have been lost forever”. They are not just any exploitable “resource”, but have a value in and of themselves. In this perspective “we must be grateful for the praiseworthy efforts being made by scientists and engineers dedicated to finding solutions to man-made problems”, but when human intervention is at the service of finance and consumerism, “it is actually making our earth less rich and beautiful, ever more limited and grey”.


Decline in the quality of human life and the breakdown of society: in the framework of an ethics of international relationships, the Encyclical indicates how a “true “ecological debt” exists in the world, with the North in debt to the South. In the face of climate change, there are “differentiated responsibilities”, and those of the developed countries are greater.


Aware of the profound differences over these issues, Pope Francis shows himself to be deeply affected by the “weak responses” in the face of the drama of many peoples and populations. Even though there is no lack of positive examples, there is “a complacency and a cheerful recklessness”. An adequate culture is lacking as well as a willingness to change life style, production and consumption, while there are efforts being made “to establish a legal framework which can set clear boundaries and ensure the protection of ecosystems”.


Chapter Two – THE GOSPEL OF CREATION (The light offered by faith; The wisdom of the Biblical accounts; The mystery of the universe; The message of each creature in the harmony of creation; A universal communion; The common destination of goods; The gaze of Jesus).


To face the problems illustrated in the previous chapter, Pope Francis selects Biblical accounts, offering a comprehensive view that comes from the Judeo-Christian tradition. With this he articulates the “tremendous responsibility” of humankind for creation, the intimate connection among all creatures and the fact that “the natural environment is a collective good, the patrimony of all humanity and the responsibility of everyone”.


In the Bible, “the God who liberates and saves is the same God who created the universe, and these two divine ways of acting are intimately and inseparably connected”. The story of creation is central for reflecting on the relationship between human beings and other creatures and how sin breaks the equilibrium of all creation in its entirety: “These accounts suggest that human life is grounded in three fundamental and closely intertwined relationships: with God, with our neighbour and with the earth itself. According to the Bible, these three vital relationships have been broken, both outwardly and within us. This rupture is sin”.


For this, even if “we Christians have at times incorrectly interpreted the Scriptures, nowadays we must forcefully reject the notion that our being created in God’s image and given dominion over the earth justifies absolute domination over other creatures”. Human beings have the responsibility to ““till and keep” the garden of the world”, knowing that “the ultimate purpose of other creatures is not to be found in us. Rather, all creatures are moving forward, with us and through us, towards a common point of arrival, which is God”.


That the human being is not the master of the universe “does not mean to put all living beings on the same level and to deprive human beings of their unique worth and the tremendous responsibility it entails. Nor does it imply a divinisation of the earth which would prevent us from working on it and protecting it in its fragility”. In this perspective, “every act of cruelty towards any creature is “contrary to human dignity”. However, “a sense of deep communion with the rest of nature cannot be real if our hearts lack tenderness, compassion and concern for our fellow human beings”. What is needed is the awareness of a universal communion: “called into being by the one Father. All of us are linked by unseen bonds and together form a kind of universal family, a sublime communion which fills us with a sacred, affectionate and humble respect”.


The chapter concludes with the heart of Christian revelation: “The earthly Jesus” with “his tangible and loving relationship with the world” is “risen and glorious, and is present throughout creation by his universal Lordship”.


Chapter three – THE HUMAN ROOTS OF THE ECOLOGICAL CRISIS (Technology: creativity and power; The globalisation of the technocratic paradigm; The crisis and effects of modern anthropocentrism; Practical relativism; The need to protect employment; New biological technologies).


This chapter gives an analysis of the current situation, “so as to consider not only its symptoms but also its deepest causes”, in a dialogue with philosophy and the human sciences.


Reflections on technology are an initial focus of the chapter: the great contribution to the improvement of living conditions is acknowledged with gratitude. However it gives “those with the knowledge, and especially the economic resources to use them, an impressive dominance over the whole of humanity and the entire world”. It is precisely the mentality of technocratic domination that leads to the destruction of nature and the exploitation of people and the most vulnerable populations. “The technocratic paradigm also tends to dominate economics and political life”, keeping us from recognising that “by itself the market cannot guarantee integral human development and social inclusion”.


“Modernity has been marked by an excessive anthropocentrism”: human beings no long recognise their right place with respect to the world and take on a self-centred position, focused exclusively on themselves and on their own power. This results in a “use and throw away” logic that justifies every type of waste, environmental or human, that treats both the other and nature as simple objects and leads to a myriad of forms of domination. It is this mentality that leads to exploiting children, abandoning the elderly, forcing others into slavery and over-evaluating the capacity of the market to regulate itself, practising human trafficking, selling pelts of animals in danger of extinction and of “blood diamonds”. It is the same mentality as many mafias, of those involved in trafficking organs and drug trafficking and of throwing away unborn babies because they do not correspond to what the parents want.


In this light, the Encyclical addresses two crucial problems of today’s world. Above all work: “any approach to an integral ecology, which by definition does not exclude human beings, needs to take account of the value of labour”, because “to stop investing in people, in order to gain greater short-term financial gain, is bad business for society”.


The second problem regards the limitations of scientific progress, with clear reference to GMOs. This is a “complex environmental issue”. Even though “in some regions their use has brought about economic growth which has helped to resolve problems, there remain a number of significant difficulties which should not be underestimated”, starting from the “productive land being concentrated in the hands of a few owners”. Pope Francis thinks particularly of small producers and rural workers, of biodiversity, and the network of ecosystems. Therefore “a broad, responsible scientific and social debate needs to take place, one capable of considering all the available information and of calling things by their name” starting from “lines of independent, interdisciplinary research”.


Chapter four – INTEGRAL ECOLOGY (Environmental, economic and social ecology; Cultural ecology; Ecology of daily life; The principle of the common good; Justice between the generations).


The heart of what the Encyclical proposes is integral ecology as a new paradigm of justice; an ecology “which respects our unique place as human beings in this world and our relationship to our surroundings”. In fact, “nature cannot be regarded as something separate from ourselves or as a mere setting in which we live”. This is true as we are involved in various fields: in economy and politics, in different cultures particularly in those most threatened, and even in every moment of our daily lives.


The integral perspective also brings the ecology of institutions into play: “if everything is related, then the health of a society’s institutions affects the environment and the quality of human life. “Every violation of solidarity and civic friendship harms the environment”.


With many concrete examples, Pope Francis confirm his thinking that “the analysis of environmental problems cannot be separated from the analysis of human, family, work-related and urban contexts, and of how individuals relate to themselves”. “We are not faced with two separate crises, one environmental and the other social, but rather one complex crisis which is both social and environmental”.


“Human ecology is inseparable from the notion of the common good”, but is to be understood in a concrete way. In today’s context, in which, “injustices abound and growing numbers of people are deprived of basic human rights and considered expendable”, committing oneself to the common good means to make choices in solidarity based on “a preferential option for the poorest of our brothers and sisters”. This is also the best way to leave a sustainable world for future generations, not just by proclaiming, but by committing to care for the poor of today, as already emphasised by Benedict XVI: “In addition to a fairer sense of inter-generational solidarity there is also an urgent moral need for a renewed sense of intra-generational solidarity”.


Integral ecology also involves everyday life. The Encyclical gives specific attention to the urban environment. The human being has a great capacity for adaptation and “an admirable creativity and generosity is shown by persons and groups who respond to environmental limitations by alleviating the adverse effects of their surroundings and learning to live productively amid disorder and uncertainty”. Nevertheless, authentic development presupposes an integral improvement in the quality of human life: public space, housing, transport, etc.


Also “the acceptance of our bodies as God’s gift is vital for welcoming and accepting the entire world as a gift from the Father and our common home, whereas thinking that we enjoy absolute power over our own bodies turns, often subtly, into thinking that we enjoy absolute power over creation”.


Chapter five – LINES OF APPROACH AND ACTION (Dialogue on the environment; In the international community; Dialogue for new national and local policies; Dialogue and transparency in decision-making; Politics and economy in dialogue for human fulfilment; Religions in dialogue with science).


This chapter addresses the question of what we can and must do. Analyses are not enough: we need proposals “for dialogue and action which would involve each of us individually no less than international policy”. They will “help us to escape the spiral of self-destruction which currently engulfs us”. For Pope Francis it is imperative that the developing real approaches is not done in an ideological, superficial or reductionist way. For this, dialogue is essential, a term present in the title of every section of this chapter. “There are certain environmental issues where it is not easy to achieve a broad consensus. […] the Church does not presume to settle scientific questions or to replace politics. But I want to encourage an honest and open debate, so that particular interests or ideologies will not prejudice the common good”.


On this basis, Pope Francis is not afraid to judge international dynamics severely: “Recent World Summits on the environment have failed to live up to expectations because, due to lack of political will, they were unable to reach truly meaningful and effective global agreements on the environment”. And he asks “What would induce anyone, at this stage, to hold on to power only to be remembered for their inability to take action when it was urgent and necessary to do so?”. Instead, what is needed, as the Popes have repeated several times, starting with Pacem in terris, are forms and instruments for global governance: “an agreement on systems of governance for the whole range of the so-called “global commons”“, seeing that “environmental protection cannot be assured solely on the basis of financial calculations of costs and benefits. The environment is one of those goods that cannot be adequately safeguarded or promoted by market forces” (190, Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church).


In this fifth chapter, Pope Francis insists on development of honest and transparent decision-making processes, in order to “discern” which policies and business initiatives can bring about “genuine integral development”. In particular, a proper environmental impact study of new “business ventures and projects demands transparent political processes involving a free exchange of views. On the other hand, the forms of corruption which conceal the actual environmental impact of a given project in exchange for favours usually produce specious agreements which fail to inform adequately and do not allow for full debate”.


The most significant appeal is addressed to those who hold political office, so that they avoid “a mentality of “efficiency” and “immediacy” that is so prevalent today: “but if they are courageous, they will attest to their God-given dignity and leave behind a testimony of selfless responsibility”.


Chapter six – ECOLOGICAL EDUCATION AND SPIRITUALITY (Towards a new lifestyle; Educating for the covenant between humanity and the environment; Ecological conversion; Joy and peace; Civic and political love; Sacramental signs and the celebration of rest; The trinity and relationships between creatures; Queen of all creation; Beyond the sun).


The final chapter invites everyone to the heart of ecological conversion. The roots of the cultural crisis are deep, and it is not easy to reshape habits and behaviour. Education and training are the key challenges: “change is impossible without motivation and a process of education” (15). All educational sectors are involved, primarily “at school, in families, in the media, in catechesis and elsewhere”.


The starting point is “to aim for a new lifestyle”, which also opens the possibility of “bringing healthy pressure to bear on those who wield political, economic and social power”. This is what happens when consumer choices are able to “change the way businesses operate, forcing them to consider their environmental footprint and their patterns of production”.


The importance of environmental education cannot be underestimated. It is able to affect actions and daily habits, the reduction of water consumption, the sorting of waste and even “turning off unnecessary lights”: “An integral ecology is also made up of simple daily gestures which break with the logic of violence, exploitation and selfishness”. Everything will be easier starting with a contemplative outlook that comes from faith: “as believers, we do not look at the world from without but from within, conscious of the bonds with which the Father has linked us with all beings. By developing our individual, God-given capacities, an ecological conversion can inspire us to greater creativity and enthusiasm”.


As proposed in Evangelii Gaudium: “sobriety, when lived freely and consciously, is liberating”, just as “happiness means knowing how to limit some needs which only diminish us, and being open to the many different possibilities which life can offer”. In this way “we must regain the conviction that we need one another, that we have a shared responsibility for others and the world, and that being good and decent are worth it”.


The saints accompany us on this journey. St. Francis, cited several times, is “the example par excellence of care for the vulnerable and of an integral ecology lived out joyfully and authentically”. He is the model of “the inseparable bond between concern for nature, justice for the poor, commitment to society, and interior peace”. The Encyclical also mentions St. Benedict, St. Teresa di Lisieux and Blessed Charles de Foucauld.


After Laudato si’, the regular practice of an examination of conscience, the means that the Church has always recommended to orient one’s life in light of the relationship with the Lord, should include a new dimension, considering not only how one has lived communion with God, with others and with oneself, but also with all creatures and with nature.


The full text of the encyclical in English can be consulted at:

http://w2.vatican.va/content/france...-francesco_20150524_enciclica-laudato-si.html

 

[Gnarwhal]

None of that affirms your position.

 

[Postvieww]

None of that affirms your position.

I've seen nothing from you that affirms yours.

 

[Gnarwhal]

I've seen nothing from you that affirms yours.

Onus probandi fallacy.

 

[Postvieww]

Onus probandi fallacy.

The “Onus probandi” is on you to prove these statements are fallacy.


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SEPTEMBER 22, 2015

Pope Francis Doesn’t Even Hide It- He Calls For One World Government

Pope Francis Wants One World Government Just Like Obama Does

Hey, with the Pope visiting, thought I’d wake up and smell the coffee. Been asleep at the helm with this rape case. While I’ve been asleep these last months, Pope Francis has been issuing statements that truly rock the world. From June 2015:


” Interdependence obliges us to think of one world with a common plan. Yet the same ingenuity which has brought about enormous technological progress has so far proved incapable of finding effective ways of dealing with grave environmental and social problems worldwide. A global consensus is essential for confronting the deeper problems, which cannot be resolved by unilateral actions on the part of individual countries….. International negotiations cannot make significant progress due to positions taken by countries which place their national interests above the global common good.. Global regulatory norms are needed to impose obligations and prevent unacceptable actions, for example, when powerful companies or countries dump contaminated waste or offshore polluting industries in other countries…What is needed, in effect, is an agreement on systems of governance for the whole range of so-called “global commons… The twenty-first century, while maintaining systems of governance inherited from the past, is witnessing a weakening of the power of nation states, chiefly because the economic and financial sectors, being transnational, tends to prevail over the political. Given this situation, it is essential to devise stronger and more efficiently organized international institutions, with functionaries who are appointed fairly by agreement 50 among national governments, and empowered to impose sanctions…. there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago… One authoritative source of oversight and coordination is the law, which lays down rules for admissible conduct in the light of the common good. (here is the best part) …Here, continuity is essential, because policies related to climate change and environmental protection cannot be altered with every change of government. Results take time and demand immediate outlays which may not produce tangible effects within any one government’s term. That is why, in the absence of pressure from the public and from civic institutions, political authorities will always be reluctant to intervene, all the more when urgent needs must be met.”


That last part basically means, “We need to have laws that will force countries to do whatever we tell them to do because the People of those nations are too stupid to know what is best. Thus, every time they change leadership, they will do stupid things. Therefore, since we are smarter than any of those dirty, stupid, ignorant plebeian, we must take full control of all nations of the world and simply put all the ‘important’ laws above their reach. see? We are just children to them. This, my friends, is the very essence, the very soul of Progressive thinking. And it exists on both sides of our political spectrum. The real political divide today is Progressive vs. Conservative.


“It’s a bold aim for a bold document. Following on from the pope’s earlier criticism of capitalism in his encyclical Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel), it is a subtle bid for much greater Catholic control over the global economy, global politics and even the whole globe in general.” said Richard Palmer of the Philadelphia Trumpet.


Pope Francis’ most recent calls for a one world government to control global warning is nothing new for the Vatican- it’s just new for the world. The Vatican is using their Rock-n-Roll Pope, who is wildly popular with Hollywood now due to 180 degree turn on homosexuality and abortion, to make their ambitions known to the world. He is the right messenger, it appears. Here is the statement announced by Pope Bennedict XVI in 2011, yet another corrupt priest:


“Time has come to conceive of institutions with universal competence, now that vital goods shared by the entire human family are at stake, goods which the individual States cannot promote and protect by themselves. So conditions exist for definitively going beyond a ‘Westphalian’ international order in which the States feel the need for cooperation but do not seize the opportunity to integrate their respective sovereignties for the common good of peoples. It is the task of today’s generation to recognize and consciously to accept these new world dynamics for the achievement of a universal common good.


Of course, this transformation will be made at the cost of a gradual, balanced transfer of a part of each nation’s powers to a world Authority and to regional Authorities, but this is necessary at a time when the dynamism of human society and the economy and the progress of technology are transcending borders, which are in fact already very eroded in a globalized world.


The birth of a new society and the building of new institutions with a universal vocation and competence are a prerogative and a duty for everyone, with no distinction. What is at stake is the common good of humanity and the future itself. In this context, for every Christian there is a special call of the Spirit to become committed decisively and generously so that the many dynamics under way will be channelled towards prospects of fraternity and the common good. “


The Vatican had its sights on the world in 2011, People, but no one listened. So, I guess they are using the language of Global Warming. They know that Hollywood and the Liberal Left will jump right in. And what is more powerful than regulating the air we breath and the water we breath? Forget oil- heck, let’s go for the jugular, here, People. Without air and water, no one lives. Control those and you have everyone by the proverbial balls. That’s why Progressives love to use the environment. Very clever move by the Vatican. Just give the Progressives ‘God’ on their side and there won’t be any shutting them up now. Kind of like the terrorists like to do.


Here’s what Pope Francis says about you and me, Conservative Christians, just because we don’t buy into the global warming pseudoscience or wish our nation to be destroyed and taken over by the United Nations:


” Obstructionist attitudes, even on the part of believers, can range from denial of the problem to indifference, nonchalant resignation or blind confidence in technical solutions. We require a new and universal solidarity……The same mindset which stands in the way of making radical decisions to reverse the trend of global warming also stands in the way of achieving the goal of eliminating poverty. “


See? We are obstructionists who don’t even want to eliminate poverty. Nice, huh?


Here are some direct quotes from Pope Francis’ speech from the Vatican in June 2014 on his recent visit. Apparently, if you don’t belong to the Catholic Church, it is ABSURD to think you can have a personal, direct relationship with Jesus Christ- dangerous, even. Nice, very nice…


“Some “think they can have a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ outside of the communion and the mediation of the Church. Such temptations are dangerous and harmful. They are, in the words of the great Pope Paul VI, absurd dichotomies.”

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“”We cannot love God without loving our brothers and sisters; we cannot love God outside of the Church; we cannot be in communion with God without being in the Church; and we cannot be good Christians if we are not with all those who seek to follow the Lord Jesus, as one people, one body. And this is the Church.”

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You know, when the Holy Spirit is with you, you know pretty quick when something foul is near. I knew this Pope was bad news from the very start- ditto for his predecessor. And here, look, they want a New World Government. Apparently, the United States Government, the one that is outlined in our Constitution, is ‘outdated’. I read the entire speeches of both Popes- you are free to do so as well. I am not lying. Those are their words. No soldier can back those statements unless they are TRAITORS to this nation. (I say this because apparently, my rapist’s attorney is waving around my articles about Pope Francis as proof of my unreliability in court. Why would my rapist, an ex Army colonel, support a Pope who thinks the United States Government should be subjected and ended in favor of a World Government? Isn’t that treason for a soldier? Just saying.) Oh, and he also said that you can’t have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ unless you belong to the Catholic Church.


That, my friends, is blasphemy against Jesus Christ himself. It is simply untrue. Say that to the thief who was saved beside Jesus on the cross. He most certainly was not Catholic.


My rapist is lying in court concerning my opinions about Catholics. I don’t believe all followers of the Catholic Church are ‘going to hell’. But I do believe that this Pope and the one before him are evil. They don’t represent Christianity but they do represent the ambitions of powerful men intent on harming this beloved nation. Their words injure the weak faith of many people. What they propose is treasonous in our nation and I fully reject their words. All soldiers sworn to uphold this nation and our constitution should do so. Many patriotic Americans and Catholics themselves agree with me wholeheartedly. I have stood for Catholics because I know too many of them- they love Jesus every bit as much as I do. We will all see Jesus one day. But not these Popes. They are only men- and all men can be temped to do great evil. That is just the truth, my friends.

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Article sources:

http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...rnment-to-tackle-climate-change-10330124.html


Another article to see is: https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12819.2.0.0/pope-calls-for-new-world-government


http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/


Concerning his comments about salvation, here is that link:http://www.asianews.it/news-en/For-...not-love-God-outside-of-the-Church-31455.html


full text: http://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-the-pontif

 

[Gnarwhal]

The “Onus probandi” is on you to prove these statements are fallacy.


https://shortlittlerebel.wordpress....en-hide-it-he-calls-for-one-world-government/


SEPTEMBER 22, 2015

Pope Francis Doesn’t Even Hide It- He Calls For One World Government

Pope Francis Wants One World Government Just Like Obama Does

Hey, with the Pope visiting, thought I’d wake up and smell the coffee. Been asleep at the helm with this rape case. While I’ve been asleep these last months, Pope Francis has been issuing statements that truly rock the world. From June 2015:


” Interdependence obliges us to think of one world with a common plan. Yet the same ingenuity which has brought about enormous technological progress has so far proved incapable of finding effective ways of dealing with grave environmental and social problems worldwide. A global consensus is essential for confronting the deeper problems, which cannot be resolved by unilateral actions on the part of individual countries….. International negotiations cannot make significant progress due to positions taken by countries which place their national interests above the global common good.. Global regulatory norms are needed to impose obligations and prevent unacceptable actions, for example, when powerful companies or countries dump contaminated waste or offshore polluting industries in other countries…What is needed, in effect, is an agreement on systems of governance for the whole range of so-called “global commons… The twenty-first century, while maintaining systems of governance inherited from the past, is witnessing a weakening of the power of nation states, chiefly because the economic and financial sectors, being transnational, tends to prevail over the political. Given this situation, it is essential to devise stronger and more efficiently organized international institutions, with functionaries who are appointed fairly by agreement 50 among national governments, and empowered to impose sanctions…. there is urgent need of a true world political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some years ago… One authoritative source of oversight and coordination is the law, which lays down rules for admissible conduct in the light of the common good. (here is the best part) …Here, continuity is essential, because policies related to climate change and environmental protection cannot be altered with every change of government. Results take time and demand immediate outlays which may not produce tangible effects within any one government’s term. That is why, in the absence of pressure from the public and from civic institutions, political authorities will always be reluctant to intervene, all the more when urgent needs must be met.”


That last part basically means, “We need to have laws that will force countries to do whatever we tell them to do because the People of those nations are too stupid to know what is best. Thus, every time they change leadership, they will do stupid things. Therefore, since we are smarter than any of those dirty, stupid, ignorant plebeian, we must take full control of all nations of the world and simply put all the ‘important’ laws above their reach. see? We are just children to them. This, my friends, is the very essence, the very soul of Progressive thinking. And it exists on both sides of our political spectrum. The real political divide today is Progressive vs. Conservative.


“It’s a bold aim for a bold document. Following on from the pope’s earlier criticism of capitalism in his encyclical Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel), it is a subtle bid for much greater Catholic control over the global economy, global politics and even the whole globe in general.” said Richard Palmer of the Philadelphia Trumpet.


Pope Francis’ most recent calls for a one world government to control global warning is nothing new for the Vatican- it’s just new for the world. The Vatican is using their Rock-n-Roll Pope, who is wildly popular with Hollywood now due to 180 degree turn on homosexuality and abortion, to make their ambitions known to the world. He is the right messenger, it appears. Here is the statement announced by Pope Bennedict XVI in 2011, yet another corrupt priest:


“Time has come to conceive of institutions with universal competence, now that vital goods shared by the entire human family are at stake, goods which the individual States cannot promote and protect by themselves. So conditions exist for definitively going beyond a ‘Westphalian’ international order in which the States feel the need for cooperation but do not seize the opportunity to integrate their respective sovereignties for the common good of peoples. It is the task of today’s generation to recognize and consciously to accept these new world dynamics for the achievement of a universal common good.


Of course, this transformation will be made at the cost of a gradual, balanced transfer of a part of each nation’s powers to a world Authority and to regional Authorities, but this is necessary at a time when the dynamism of human society and the economy and the progress of technology are transcending borders, which are in fact already very eroded in a globalized world.


The birth of a new society and the building of new institutions with a universal vocation and competence are a prerogative and a duty for everyone, with no distinction. What is at stake is the common good of humanity and the future itself. In this context, for every Christian there is a special call of the Spirit to become committed decisively and generously so that the many dynamics under way will be channelled towards prospects of fraternity and the common good. “


The Vatican had its sights on the world in 2011, People, but no one listened. So, I guess they are using the language of Global Warming. They know that Hollywood and the Liberal Left will jump right in. And what is more powerful than regulating the air we breath and the water we breath? Forget oil- heck, let’s go for the jugular, here, People. Without air and water, no one lives. Control those and you have everyone by the proverbial balls. That’s why Progressives love to use the environment. Very clever move by the Vatican. Just give the Progressives ‘God’ on their side and there won’t be any shutting them up now. Kind of like the terrorists like to do.


Here’s what Pope Francis says about you and me, Conservative Christians, just because we don’t buy into the global warming pseudoscience or wish our nation to be destroyed and taken over by the United Nations:


” Obstructionist attitudes, even on the part of believers, can range from denial of the problem to indifference, nonchalant resignation or blind confidence in technical solutions. We require a new and universal solidarity……The same mindset which stands in the way of making radical decisions to reverse the trend of global warming also stands in the way of achieving the goal of eliminating poverty. “


See? We are obstructionists who don’t even want to eliminate poverty. Nice, huh?


Here are some direct quotes from Pope Francis’ speech from the Vatican in June 2014 on his recent visit. Apparently, if you don’t belong to the Catholic Church, it is ABSURD to think you can have a personal, direct relationship with Jesus Christ- dangerous, even. Nice, very nice…


“Some “think they can have a personal, direct, immediate relationship with Jesus Christ outside of the communion and the mediation of the Church. Such temptations are dangerous and harmful. They are, in the words of the great Pope Paul VI, absurd dichotomies.”

————————————-

“”We cannot love God without loving our brothers and sisters; we cannot love God outside of the Church; we cannot be in communion with God without being in the Church; and we cannot be good Christians if we are not with all those who seek to follow the Lord Jesus, as one people, one body. And this is the Church.”

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You know, when the Holy Spirit is with you, you know pretty quick when something foul is near. I knew this Pope was bad news from the very start- ditto for his predecessor. And here, look, they want a New World Government. Apparently, the United States Government, the one that is outlined in our Constitution, is ‘outdated’. I read the entire speeches of both Popes- you are free to do so as well. I am not lying. Those are their words. No soldier can back those statements unless they are TRAITORS to this nation. (I say this because apparently, my rapist’s attorney is waving around my articles about Pope Francis as proof of my unreliability in court. Why would my rapist, an ex Army colonel, support a Pope who thinks the United States Government should be subjected and ended in favor of a World Government? Isn’t that treason for a soldier? Just saying.) Oh, and he also said that you can’t have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ unless you belong to the Catholic Church.


That, my friends, is blasphemy against Jesus Christ himself. It is simply untrue. Say that to the thief who was saved beside Jesus on the cross. He most certainly was not Catholic.


My rapist is lying in court concerning my opinions about Catholics. I don’t believe all followers of the Catholic Church are ‘going to hell’. But I do believe that this Pope and the one before him are evil. They don’t represent Christianity but they do represent the ambitions of powerful men intent on harming this beloved nation. Their words injure the weak faith of many people. What they propose is treasonous in our nation and I fully reject their words. All soldiers sworn to uphold this nation and our constitution should do so. Many patriotic Americans and Catholics themselves agree with me wholeheartedly. I have stood for Catholics because I know too many of them- they love Jesus every bit as much as I do. We will all see Jesus one day. But not these Popes. They are only men- and all men can be temped to do great evil. That is just the truth, my friends.

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Article sources:

http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...rnment-to-tackle-climate-change-10330124.html


Another article to see is: https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12819.2.0.0/pope-calls-for-new-world-government


http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/10/25/the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/


Concerning his comments about salvation, here is that link:http://www.asianews.it/news-en/For-...not-love-God-outside-of-the-Church-31455.html


full text: http://www.news.va/en/news/full-text-note-on-financial-reform-from-the-pontif

Apparently you don't know what an onus probandi fallacy is. The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim, not the one who denies it.

 

[Postvieww]

Apparently you don't know what an onus probandi fallacy is. The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim, not the one who denies it.

You made the claim what I posted is not true, and have offered nothing to support that claim.

 

[Gnarwhal]

You made the claim what I posted is not true, and have offered nothing to support that claim.

Wrong.

You're claiming that the Pope is trying to establish a New World Order. A claim by definition is:

"A new statement of truth made about something, usually when the statement has yet to be verified."
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/claim

The reality is that the Pope is doing none of what you claim. Your claim is the new "information", ergo the burden of proof is on you.

 

[Postvieww]

Wrong.

You're claiming that the Pope is trying to establish a New World Order. A claim by definition is:

"A new statement of truth made about something, usually when the statement has yet to be verified."
​

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/claim

The reality is that the Pope is doing none of what you claim. Your claim is the new "information", ergo the burden of proof is on you.

My original statement on this topic was from Post # 101” The current Pope is promoting a one world government”

You’re statements:

Post #106 “No”

Post #108 “I don't acknowledge either of those as credible sources”

Post #110 “None of that affirms your position”

Post # 112 “Onus probandi fallacy”

Post #114 “Apparently you don't know what an onus probandi fallacy is. The burden of proof is on the one who makes the claim, not the one who denies it”

Post# 116 “Wrong.

You're claiming that the Pope is trying to establish a New World Order. A claim by definition is:

"A new statement of truth made about something, usually when the statement has yet to be verified."

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/claim

The reality is that the Pope is doing none of what you claim. Your claim is the new "information", ergo the burden of proof is on you.

In posts #107, #109, and #113 I offered evidence with links to sources and quotes some of which were straight from “the horse’s mouth” so to speak. Just claiming they are wrong, fallacy or not credible does nothing to refute them only states your opinion. Your Opinion is your claim which you have not supported at all. So my opinion is this is a settled topic until such time as you stop the word game charade and offer some real information. Vale!