Detroit Tiger ballplayer would be "uncomfortable" with openly gay teammate

[HalupkiMonster]

If I had to take a shower with multiple females, I will admit, I would have a serious hard time keeping my eyes from wandering.

That's your problem, not theirs.

 

[Wolseley]

I had a fellow vet (we'll call him Max) tell me a story about the showers at a base in Vietnam...

Max said he was heading into the shower when a big guy came charging out of the shower, looking kind of pale; Max went inside and found one other guy there, slipping something in between the boards of the wall (the shower room, just like the whole base, was pretty primitive, consisting of sandbags and plywood for the most part, although they did have rudimentary plumbing and electricity). Max looked sort of quizzically at the guy, and the guy gave him a grim sort of grin and asked, "Did you you see the guy who just left here?"

Max said that yes, he had, and added that the guy had looked sort of sick. The other guy said, "He's a (derogatory term for a homosexual)---tried to come on to me."

Max asked him, "What did you do?"

The other guy said, "I told him I didn't have sex with anybody who had a penis---but we could take care of that easily enough."

Max said at that point the guy reached back in between the boards and produced a bayonet that had been sharpened to a razor consistency and was dripping with weapons oil.

Max said, "So you threatened to.....?", and the guy replied, "You're damned right I did."

Then he said they both stood there and laughed; the other guy packed up his soap, his towel, and his bayonet and left, and Max took his shower.

 

[Elysium]

im sorry i dont see the humor in that
he got propositioned so he pulled out a weapon and threatened to cut the guys penis off?
that isnt hilarious
thats frighteningly violent

men proposition women all the time
women say "no" and men who are decent ppl will back off
(as in leave them alone and not rape them)

this guy gets asked for sex by someoen and he pulls out a knife like weapon?
seriously
thats messed up

are we supposed to laugh at ppl being so homophobic that they threaten gay guys w weapons now?

 

[HalupkiMonster]

im sorry i dont see the humor in that
he got propositioned so he pulled out a weapon and threatened to cut the guys penis off?
that isnt hilarious
thats frighteningly violent

men proposition women all the time
women say "no" and men who are decent ppl will back off
(as in leave them alone and not rape them)

this guy gets asked for sex by someoen and he pulls out a knife like weapon?
seriously
thats messed up

are we supposed to laugh at ppl being so homophobic that they threaten gay guys w weapons now?

Wait, that was supposed to be funny?

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

Obviously never been in the military.

Now with things being out in the open, I'm curious to know how many military guys are open to taking a shower with a homosexual.

That's your problem, not theirs.

Not really. What guarantee do you have to offer that a homosexual wouldn't gawk at other guys, get aroused, or worse, hit on them? I mean, if you're cool with homosexuals taking showers with the sex they attracted to, then why not just have co-ed showers?

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

There's a lesson in that story! LOL

I had a fellow vet (we'll call him Max) tell me a story about the showers at a base in Vietnam...

Max said he was heading into the shower when a big guy came charging out of the shower, looking kind of pale; Max went inside and found one other guy there, slipping something in between the boards of the wall (the shower room, just like the whole base, was pretty primitive, consisting of sandbags and plywood for the most part, although they did have rudimentary plumbing and electricity). Max looked sort of quizzically at the guy, and the guy gave him a grim sort of grin and asked, "Did you you see the guy who just left here?"

Max said that yes, he had, and added that the guy had looked sort of sick. The other guy said, "He's a (derogatory term for a homosexual)---tried to come on to me."

Max asked him, "What did you do?"

The other guy said, "I told him I didn't have sex with anybody who had a penis---but we could take care of that easily enough."

Max said at that point the guy reached back in between the boards and produced a bayonet that had been sharpened to a razor consistency and was dripping with weapons oil.

Max said, "So you threatened to.....?", and the guy replied, "You're damned right I did."

Then he said they both stood there and laughed; the other guy packed up his soap, his towel, and his bayonet and left, and Max took his shower.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Exactly! Brooklyn, you couldn't said this any better! I always crack up at how the extreme Far Left tries to portray gays as this classy group of intellectual, dignified, awesome group with so much to offer civilization. Gay pride parades look like some sickening Sodom and Gomorrah complete with men in leather, drag queens, naked men, giant phallic imagery, and utter hedonistic tripe. They're utterly disgusting and yet we're all supposed to suck it up, as you say here so well, and enjoy watching this filth? I'm with you, bro....

Honestly, how would you feel if you had to take a shower with a heterosexual male?

If I had to take a shower with multiple females, I will admit, I would have a serious hard time keeping my eyes from wandering.

Also, just because you're fine with it doesn't mean everyone should get with the supposed program. Those gay pride parades come around town and there they are, a few guys wearing chaps with their rear-ends exposed.

To the people who think it's disgusting, should they also suck it up?



Sure you can: have them take shower by themselves or take a shower when they aren't close-by.

 

[HalupkiMonster]

Not really. What guarantee do you have to offer that a homosexual wouldn't gawk at other guys, get aroused, or worse, hit on them? I mean, if you're cool with homosexuals taking showers with the sex they attracted to, then why not just have co-ed showers?

You mean...a homosexual soldier might actually hit on another soldier? The horror!

Honestly, it is that big of a deal? It's been my experience in the showers that most guys just mind their own business. If someone gets aroused (in high school and college, it happens,) no one minds. Everyone just does their own thing.

If someone gets hit on by a gay guy, turning them down does the trick. It's really not a big deal.

Also, different genders have different hygienic needs and such. There are more reasons to segregate showers based on gender than mere attraction.

 

[HalupkiMonster]

Exactly! Brooklyn, you couldn't said this any better! I always crack up at how the extreme Far Left tries to portray gays as this classy group of intellectual, dignified, awesome group with so much to offer civilization. Gay pride parades look like some sickening Sodom and Gomorrah complete with men in leather, drag queens, naked men, giant phallic imagery, and utter hedonistic tripe. They're utterly disgusting and yet we're all supposed to suck it up, as you say here so well, and enjoy watching this filth? I'm with you, bro....

We're not all like that, and if you believe that those stupid parades represent the gay community completely, you've got a lot to learn.

I'm gay. I'm not effeminate. I don't hit on guys in the showers or stare. I just mind my own business, as I would expect from everyone in this situation, gay or straight.

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

im sorry i dont see the humor in that
he got propositioned so he pulled out a weapon and threatened to cut the guys penis off?
that isnt hilarious
thats frighteningly violent

men proposition women all the time
women say "no" and men who are decent ppl will back off
(as in leave them alone and not rape them)

this guy gets asked for sex by someoen and he pulls out a knife like weapon?
seriously
thats messed up

are we supposed to laugh at ppl being so homophobic that they threaten gay guys w weapons now?

How many women have you known come out of the closet and hit on you...in the shower? What would your honest reaction be, standing there naked?

Not everyone one can brush it off, not everyone takes a homosexual hitting on them as a "compliment."

I told this story a while ago: I had a homosexual hit on me, told him that I wasn't gay, him and his sister go ballistic wanting to fight me, and for some oddball reason, I only laughed at them. Take away the sister and put us both in a shower room and I - in all likelihood - put him in the hospital.

 

[HalupkiMonster]

How many women have you known come out of the closet and hit on you...in the shower? What would your honest reaction be, standing there naked?

Not everyone one can brush it off, not everyone takes a homosexual hitting on them as a "compliment."

Yes, now I see. Threatening to cut the homosexual's penis off is the best way to deal with this situation.

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

You mean...a homosexual soldier might actually hit on another soldier? The horror!

Honestly, it is that big of a deal? It's been my experience in the showers that most guys just mind their own business. If someone gets aroused (in high school and college, it happens,) no one minds. Everyone just does their own thing.

And do you know for a fact most of those guys were homosexual? You're fine with it? Great, but don't expect others to be cool with it.

If someone gets hit on by a gay guy, turning them down does the trick. It's really not a big deal.

Ha, there are multiple stories of homosexuals not being able to take no for an answer. So, you end up with them being threatened or getting assaulted.

Also, different genders have different hygienic needs and such. There are more reasons to segregate showers based on gender than mere attraction.

Different hygienic needs?

You know what is in a woman's shower room? A shower head, soap, and shampoo.

You know what's in a man's shower room? A shower head, soap, and shampoo.

I mean, if we're going to be okay with homosexuals showering together with heterosexuals, mind as well let women and men shower together.

 

[Wolseley]

im sorry i dont see the humor in that
he got propositioned so he pulled out a weapon and threatened to cut the guys penis off?

Max said the homosexual was a big guy---he intimated that he apparently tried to force himself on the other guy in the shower, who was not as large (no pun intended).

that isnt hilarious
thats frighteningly violent

And homosexual rape isn't?

men proposition women all the time
women say "no" and men who are decent ppl will back off
(as in leave them alone and not rape them)

Evidently this wasn't a decent person.

this guy gets asked for sex by someoen and he pulls out a knife like weapon?
seriously
thats messed up

Self-defense.

are we supposed to laugh at ppl being so homophobic that they threaten gay guys w weapons now?

Are we supposed to be indifferent when a homosexual wants to force himself on someone who wants nothing to do with him?

From what I could gather, the homosexual tried to have his way with the other guy; the other guy produced a weapon and told the homosexual to back off or be prepared to collect some scars. The homosexual left just as Max arrrived, who got the story from the other guy.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

Yes, now I see. Threatening to cut the homosexual's penis off is the best way to deal with this situation.

Depending on what was said, how it was done, and where it was done - in this case the shower room - I don't condone it, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn't threaten the guy as well. Not really cutting it off, but giving them a pair of Irish sunglasses.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

I don't recall saying that the parades "completely" represent the entire gay community. I was bouncing off something Brooklyn said about it. Context....

I never thought all gays are effeminite either. I've met some who weren't. I actually prefer it when they are, so I can stay clear! My wife has a great gadar, fortunately, and she can spot 'em like infrared...

I find the lifestyle repugnant. The actual act is repulsive and disordered. I am Orthodox, but find the Catholic teachings spot-on. However, I sympathize with people who suffer with SSA. It's sinful, but so is pornography, sex addiction amongst heterosexuals, and adultery. But it still is a serious sin. It's a tough challenge. I can't imagine what it's like to have those feelings and wrestle with them. They are a true thorn in one's side, as Paul would say. If someone has same sex attraction and those urges (not I don't want to label them as "gay" or "homosexual" as that language legitimizes it as their entire being and ontologically destined to live that way), I think it's one heck of a tough battle to fight. As long as they fight, and don't try to legitimize it as normal, healthy, and especially as God-given, I have the upmost respect for them....

We're not all like that, and if you believe that those stupid parades represent the gay community completely, you've got a lot to learn.

I'm gay. I'm not effeminate. I don't hit on guys in the showers or stare. I just mind my own business, as I would expect from everyone in this situation, gay or straight.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Irish sunglasses!? LOL!!!

I'm picturing some black and blue action...

Depending on what was said, how it was done, and where it was done - in this case the shower room - I don't condone it, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn't threaten the guy as well. Not really cutting it off, but giving them a pair of Irish sunglasses.

 

[HalupkiMonster]

And do you know for a fact most of those guys were homosexual? You're fine with it? Great, but don't expect others to be cool with it.



Ha, there are multiple stories of homosexuals not being able to take no for an answer. So, you end up with them being threatened or getting assaulted.



Different hygienic needs?

You know what is in a woman's shower room? A shower head, soap, and shampoo.

You know what's in a man's shower room? A shower head, soap, and shampoo.

I mean, if we're going to be okay with homosexuals showering together with heterosexuals, mind as well let women and men shower together.

As I'm not a member of your denomination, I'm not going to engage in debate with you. I just hope you can wise up. If you've been in the military, you've showered with homosexuals. They might not have been open about it, but I guarantee they've been there.

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God." Matthew 5:9

 

[Wolseley]

Depending on what was said, how it was done, and where it was done - in this case the shower room - I don't condone it, but I would be lying if I said I wouldn't threaten the guy as well. Not really cutting it off, but giving them a pair of Irish sunglasses.

I'm afraid I'd probably have done the same thing as well. Something like that was probably why the guy had the bayonet with him to begin with.

There was a homosexual in my BMTS squadron when I was in basic; he wasn't in my flight, but we heard about it. Apparently he tried to crawl into another guy's bunk in the middle of the night, and the guy threw him out of the bunk and then proceeded to beat the crap out of him. The homosexual was processed out with an administrative discharge (it was still prohibited for homosexuals to serve in the military back then), and the other guy got some sort of non-judicial punishment, I never found out exactly what.

Again, this incident didn't happen in my flight; it happened in another flight, but I do remember there being some sort of ruckus one night in the adjacent barracks. Some of us got up and asked the barracks guard what was going on, and he said, "Beats me. There was some noise, and then a couple of T.I.s and a bunch of people from the C.Q. went in there and hauled two dudes out. I don't know what's going on." We found out later, of course.

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

As I'm not a member of your denomination, I'm not going to engage in debate with you. I just hope you can wise up. If you've been in the military, you've showered with homosexuals. They might not have been open about it, but I guarantee they've been there.

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God." Matthew 5:9

Haven't been in the military. Have been taking showers in high school and college, and with one person acting gayish, it created a toxic environment; only when it came to taking a shower.

I wonder what that quote has to say with homosexuals openly hitting on someone in the shower.

 

[Brooklyn Knight]

I'm afraid I'd probably have done the same thing as well. Something like that was probably why the guy had the bayonet with him to begin with.

There was a homosexual in my BMTS squadron when I was in basic; he wasn't in my flight, but we heard about it. Apparently he tried to crawl into another guy's bunk in the middle of the night, and the guy threw him out of the bunk and then proceeded to beat the crap out of him. The homosexual was processed out with an administrative discharge (it was still prohibited for homosexuals to serve in the military back then), and the other guy got some sort of non-judicial punishment, I never found out exactly what.

Again, this incident didn't happen in my flight; it happened in another flight, but I do remember there being some sort of ruckus one night in the adjacent barracks. Some of us got up and asked the barracks guard what was going on, and he said, "Beats me. There was some noise, and then a couple of T.I.s and a bunch of people from the C.Q. went in there and hauled two dudes out. I don't know what's going on." We found out later, of course.

My uncle worked for the Port Authority Terminal back in the '80s. He recalls how - during breaks - him and his Haitian buddy would find a way to leave the grounds, drink alcohol, and attend some sex shows here in the city.

Back then, in Times Square, you could watch a porno movie, have a female perform for you, or watch a couple actually engage in sex.

One time, they went to one show - don't know which - but there were these Italian guys. With the way they were dressed, the money they were throwing down, all signs pointed to them being with the mafia. All of them left except for one little Italian. This small Italian was more interested in who was in the audience than what they were showing.

This guy of course walked up to both my uncle and his Haitian friend and propositioned sex. They were caught off-guard because they thought the mafia didn't allow homosexuals. They politely turned him down, even though they were drunk, my uncle still thought this guy was joking around. Little guy gets irritated and pulls out a gun on them.

I don't know how exactly they did it but I guess once they left the theater into the main hall, they just bolted, and when they ran outside, they kept running all the way down to the Financial District (Lower Manhattan).