Career Women - So far from what God intended

[faroukfarouk]

The point I was making, though, is what does the childless woman do while living at home with her parents while waiting on that spouse, or after the children have moved out, or if she stays single. ...if working is out of the question.

Well, exactly.

I think doctrinal issues are very important in missionary work, and what about women who are dedicated to service overseas and choose a single life to do so? surely becoming qualified in a career can help their future service overseas?

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

Well, exactly.

I think doctrinal issues are very important in missionary work, and what about women who are dedicated to service overseas and choose a single life to do so? surely becoming qualified in a career can help their future service overseas?

As well as to allow her to teach her skills to another and spread the wealth of ideas.

 

[faroukfarouk]

As well as to allow her to teach her skills to another and spread the wealth of ideas.

Yes; I was simply giving missionary work as one among many examples.

 

[Rebecca12]

In Biblical times there were women who were slaves. They certainly worked. That was not condemned as being ungodly.

I was highly educated and did not waste that education, I worked for a living doing meaningful work. I earned a lot more than my spouse. Who cares? It all went into the family pot. I contributed to the greater good. My SIL is a doctor. She also contributes to the greater good. Her husband stayed home with their children. That was the best choice for them, even though they both took flack for it.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

Yes; I was simply giving missionary work as one among many examples.

And I thank you for it. I was not trying to steal your thunder but was simply placing a bull horn in front of it, because it deserves to be broadcast farther.

 

[RDKirk]

Well, exactly.

I think doctrinal issues are very important in missionary work, and what about women who are dedicated to service overseas and choose a single life to do so? surely becoming qualified in a career can help their future service overseas?

An unmarried woman or a virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. Now I am saying this for your own benefit, not to put a restraint on you, but because of what is proper and so that you may be devoted to the Lord without distraction. -- 1
Corinthians 7

I don't see anything negative here about a woman who remains unmarried (or at least childless) in order to devote herself to the work of the Lord.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

Some of us have to eat. And one paycheck ain't cutting it these days. The majority of nurses are women..if you would rather we serve god at home, popping out kids instead of fixing your broken body though..maybe we can see what we can do.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

An unmarried woman or a virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But a married woman is concerned about the things of the world—how she may please her husband. Now I am saying this for your own benefit, not to put a restraint on you, but because of what is proper and so that you may be devoted to the Lord without distraction. -- 1
Corinthians 7

I don't see anything negative here about a woman who remains unmarried (or at least childless) in order to devote herself to the work of the Lord.

Should they be able to work and make a living or not. Or have other interest?

 

[Laury]

Punished? Did the OP say women go to hell who don't have children? Please xref that if you can.. missed it

thus, many blinded women have chosen not to get married, not to bear children and not to guide the house. It is evil.

*Staff edit* <article snip> Please continue reading the rest of the content in the above article link.

The Staff edited most of the rant out, so I can't quote the particular lines anymore, but it basically was a rant about how women who don't take care of the house and bear children are going to hell and act out "an active rebellion against god". It was edited out for a reason.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

This said absolutely nothing that is beyond the realm of misinterpretation.

But in your mind can they get a job or love other thing. And no it's not true that all women, that aren't married or is virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. That's not true. At least it's not true for me. Actually I couldn't be further from God.

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

But in your mind can they get a job or love other thing. And no it's not true that all women, that aren't married or is virgin is concerned about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. That's not true. At least it's not true for me. Actually I couldn't be further from God.

I am not interested in anyone else's interpretation of the Bible and I would suggest some of you guys google the author of the links you post here. The OP has inadvertently posted a link to a person who has been known to be called a heretic.

Here are the links I've found about him.

http://davidjstewartexposed.blogspot.com/

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/hereticDavidJStewart.htm

 

[AHH who-stole-my-name]

The Staff edited most of the rant out, so I can't quote the particular lines anymore, but it basically was a rant about how women who don't take care of the house and bear children are going to hell and act out "an active rebellion against god". It was edited out for a reason.

It's people like the author of this link that started this thread off that gives the media the ammo to shoot back at us. This is nothing new. Somebody likes what he said, once and then goes back to him expecting him to be profound, only to find out latter that he's pro-himself.

 

[RDKirk]

It was edited out for a reason.

Regarding your Sherlock Holmes signature quote:

One of my mentors in the military intelligence business long, long ago taught me: "Never fall in love with your own hypothesis. Love blinds you to facts that dispute it." In intel school they taught us: "Prove out all hypotheses."

 

[Cearbhall]

Young women who work when it is not a matter of life and death ,if they can manage at all to scherish their Young for at least the first years will gain in the long run as you have no regrets and your beloved children will grow up happier and with a basis of secure love the foundation of life .
Yes, there is going to be much 'wailing gnashing of teeth ' from the women who put off having good foundation's for the shallow materialistic pleasures which pass ,while love of a family and children is is of 'eternal life' .

I would agree with this to a certain degree if I lived in a socialist country, but I do not. I live in a steadfastly capitalist country, and I'm not willing to take the financial risks that come with being a SAHM. If my mother had chosen not to work, our whole family would probably be homeless right now because of things that happened later. Even if she had chosen to reenter the work force when those things occurred, her earning power would have been shot.

 

[Locutus]

I live in a socialist democracy, and perhaps that's reflected in my agreement with the idea of women staying at home to raise their kids.

My own position is that if we had depended on two full time salaries in order to have kids, we most likely wouldn't have had any. We chose to have ours because I was able to stay at home with them. I'm not sure I could have given any of my kids to someone else to 'mind', when they were pre school age - even for a few hours. Our first spent one hour with my mother at age 12 months, and it was torture. Keeping in mind we co-slept all our kids in the family bed, and I wore them in a sling during the day. They were also breastfed for at least 2 years - exclusively for the first 6 months. None had pacifiers, or bouncy swings, or any other distraction device designed to take the 'burden' off mother. I did it all - no one doing night feeds for me, no babysitters, no day care, no "sleepovers at Granny's", etc. There was no way I could have worked outside the home.

 

[TerranceL]

Career Women - So far from what God intended
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Womens Page/career_women.htm

Well sir you definitely have your convictions.

Now back them up by refusing to do business with any company that will hire women, refuse to reward behavior that you find abhorrent. To do otherwise would be hypocrisy.

Good luck.

 

[fat wee robin]

I would agree with this to a certain degree if I lived in a socialist country, but I do not. I live in a steadfastly capitalist country, and I'm not willing to take the financial risks that come with being a SAHM. If my mother had chosen not to work, our whole family would probably be homeless right now because of things that happened later. Even if she had chosen to reenter the work force when those things occurred, her earning power would have been shot.

Fair enough but if you have a choice at all .

 

[fat wee robin]

I live in a socialist democracy, and perhaps that's reflected in my agreement with the idea of women staying at home to raise their kids.

My own position is that if we had depended on two full time salaries in order to have kids, we most likely wouldn't have had any. We chose to have ours because I was able to stay at home with them. I'm not sure I could have given any of my kids to someone else to 'mind', when they were pre school age - even for a few hours. Our first spent one hour with my mother at age 12 months, and it was torture. Keeping in mind we co-slept all our kids in the family bed, and I wore them in a sling during the day. They were also breastfed for at least 2 years - exclusively for the first 6 months. None had pacifiers, or bouncy swings, or any other distraction device designed to take the 'burden' off mother. I did it all - no one doing night feeds for me, no babysitters, no day care, no "sleepovers at Granny's", etc. There was no way I could have worked outside the home.

You see this for me is too much . Next to a neglected child ,is the one suffocated by a mother who is too sensual .Neither one is good ,and they are both about the mother . The thought of remembering being breast fed by my mother would give me nightmares as I can remember fairly clearly after 18 months . I think a lot of problems stem from
mothers who use their children for their own needs . I would want to run a mile from
a smotherer .

 

[Cearbhall]

Fair enough but if you have a choice at all .

Ideally, my (theoretical) husband and I would split up the maternity/paternity leave after the adoption of each child. Or, one of us would work from home.

 

[fat wee robin]

I found out what sitting home all day is like...BORING!! I can't stand the boredom...I thought I'd enjoy being retired but the truth is that I'm bored out of my mind. Seriously out of my mind. After about 6 months of this, I'm ready to go back to work. Its not just the money, it's the having something to do.

Well I am too ,but I am not bored as I study things I had no time to do when I worked ,I have a chance to visite people far away ,again impossible before .I am studying the bible and have become an expert on a subject which links in with the bible and expands it .
I am doing up my house or rather helping in the process .I am more intellectual and read ll the time ,but am going to start painting the garden furniture ,and maybe some internal stuff and on and on .
The OP I assume, lives in America and I think he is probably correct that women have gone too far in the 'other direction ' . It seems that there is what I call the smotherer , versus the masculine copier . Anyway extremes always have 'fall out' in the long term, if not the short term, and society and children ,will pay for those .