Are King David and Solomon prophets?

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Where can I find a reliable list of which biblical people were prophets?

actually, and a little more gently, in a manner of speaking, there's a few teachers on earth in the last hundred years who may have said in their lessons who the prophets were.

the most unique and unexpected is corrie ten boom, but i doubt you can find her lessons anywhere (still, it's worth looking if possible).... her students were totally far beyond the regular pastors class, so far in fact that one or more pastors refused to test their own students with hers, as their own students didn't know 10 percent of what her students knew.

in some places, like forums on the internet, it is a lot more difficult to discuss Scripture and true facts because of the anonymous aspects of it and the widespread false teachers and prophets that abound for no other reason than to (it seems) make life harder for everyone. and everything must absolutely be tested, no exception, trusting ABBA YHVH the CREATOR through grace by faith in Yahushua the Messiah.

 

[Sammy-San]

the only way to know (see preceding) is if ABBA grants it. Judas the betrayer and the disciples who walked away from Messiah Yeshua were told the truth by Yeshua Himself, but they denied Him and walked away anyway, and Judas betrayed Him. only a few disciples remained followers of Yeshua, and they suffered greatly as He says they would.

Torah is the only reliable source, as Yhvh permits. (sorry, any list, you still have to read Torah thoroughly to find out, prayerfully seeking Yhvh Himself)

a very few people on earth can give you some answers that are in line with Yhvh's Word without contradicting Him, but even if they were sent by Yhvh (an apostle) you still have to read Torah to verify what message they deliver.
(like Paul an apostle of Yahushua says concerning any message received from Paul or from Apollos or even from an angel of light).

Why do some poeple view Joshua as a prophet, if he was actually just a military commander under Moses? I dont get that either.

 

[Dan61861]

Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

In Christ
Daniel

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

re 42: (before preceding post)

don't be surprised that people are so confusing. especially religious people. (see all the scatteredness and confusion on the internet ??? )

many people are living in darkness , and not seeking light. when someone in the light talks to them and reveals the light, the people who love darkness seek to stone them. of did everyone forget already what they did to Yahushua, and to the disciples who followed Him? and what Yahushua said would happen to those who follow Him ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

most excellent Scripture ! thank you. simply and humbly --- as it is written, David was a prophet, a sure word.

Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

In Christ
Daniel

 

[Sammy-San]

Delivering a God-inspired message is not prophecy. A prophet, especially in the days before Jesus, was a special person who communicated revelations from God to mankind. He was a person who spoke the word and will of God (i.e. "thus saith the Lord"). Although Psalms and proverbs and pronouncement from an earthly king's throne are inspired, they are not the word and will.

Modern Catholic Dictionary:

PROPHET. The biblical term "nabi" means one who spoke, acted, or wrote under the extraordinary influence of God to make known the divine counsels and will. Yet commonly associated with this primary function to proclaim the word of God, a prophet also prophesied by foretelling future events. His role, then, was to both proclaim and to make the proclamation credible.

Im not a catholic nor do I agree with them on every issue, but the fact is some Christians have a definition of what defines a prophet, that may include David and Solomon.

 

[BryanW92]

Modern Catholic Dictionary:



Im not a catholic nor do I agree with them on every issue, but the fact is some Christians have a definition of what defines a prophet, that may include David and Solomon.

That definition agrees with that I said. Note the word "extraordinary". That word is what this whole discussion hinges on. Psalms and proverbs are not extraordinary revelations. They are songs and bumper sticker slogans.

But, as has been already pointed out, scripture states that David was a prophet.

 

[Sammy-San]

That definition agrees with that I said. Note the word "extraordinary". That word is what this whole discussion hinges on. Psalms and proverbs are not extraordinary revelations. They are songs and bumper sticker slogans.

But, as has been already pointed out, scripture states that David was a prophet.

How could David have been a prophet, if, as you said, he didnt receive extraordinary revelations?

 

[BryanW92]

How could David have been a prophet, if, as you said, he didnt receive extraordinary revelations?

Apparently he did and it wasn't recorded. Oral history. They were a lot closer to David in the first century than we are today.

 

[Sammy-San]

Apparently he did and it wasn't recorded. Oral history. They were a lot closer to David in the first century than we are today.

So if the Psalms were revelations on the level of a prophet, why arent Solomons writings considered such? The Bible doesnt say he is a prophet.

 

[BryanW92]

So if the Psalms were revelations on the level of a prophet, why arent Solomons writings considered such? The Bible doesnt say he is a prophet.

Psalms aren't revelations on the level of a prophet. They are prayers. Divinely inspired--yes. Prophecy--no. Oh sure, some evangelicals who try to link every word in the OT to the NT will point at various Psalms and say, "See, this is a description of Jesus or the cross or the Little Drummer Boy..." But, they were the book of prayers. Have you read the OT books that are called the books of the prophets? Those guys were prophets. God spoke to them and told them to say certain things. He didn't give them feelings or inspirations. He gave them instructions. Did David receive instructions? I guess so because the NT explicitly says that he was a prophet. Did Solomon receive instructions? I guess not. Could you imply that he did? Perhaps.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

King Solomon - Jewish History

While Solomon was in Gibeon, G-d appeared to him and asked him what he desired. Solomon replied that all he asked was an understanding heart to lead and judge his people. Solomon's request pleased G-d, since Solomon had not asked for long life, nor for riches, nor for the death of his enemies, but for wisdom to rule his people with justice and understanding. G-d fulfilled his request and, in addition, assured him riches and honor, if he would continue to cling to the ways of the Torah.

Solomon was now gifted with Divine wisdom, which made him the wisest of all men that had ever lived.
... ...

Solomon was not only a great king and ruler; he was also a Divinely inspired writer and philosopher. As the disciple of the prophet Nathan??(subject to verify), Solomon wrote with prophetic wisdom the books of Proverbs, Song of Songs, and Ecclesiastes, all three of which form part of our holy Bible. The knowledge and study of the Torah attained a high level during the lifetime of King Solomon, Solomon's last words with which he concludes his book of Ecclesiastes, "Fear G-d and keep His commandments for this is the whole purpose of man" truly reflect his great wisdom and personality......

 

[Sammy-San]

Psalms aren't revelations on the level of a prophet. They are prayers. Divinely inspired--yes. Prophecy--no. Oh sure, some evangelicals who try to link every word in the OT to the NT will point at various Psalms and say, "See, this is a description of Jesus or the cross or the Little Drummer Boy..." But, they were the book of prayers. Have you read the OT books that are called the books of the prophets? Those guys were prophets. God spoke to them and told them to say certain things. He didn't give them feelings or inspirations. He gave them instructions. Did David receive instructions? I guess so because the NT explicitly says that he was a prophet. Did Solomon receive instructions? I guess not. Could you imply that he did? Perhaps.

So why are you saying Psalms are a higher level of revelation than Proverbs?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

of the MESSIAH YAHUSHUA, note that there are almost 100 prophesies in the Psalms by David ... he was truly a man after Yhvh's Own Heart.

365 Messianic Prophecies

 

[Sammy-San]

Psalms aren't revelations on the level of a prophet. They are prayers. Divinely inspired--yes. Prophecy--no. Oh sure, some evangelicals who try to link every word in the OT to the NT will point at various Psalms and say, "See, this is a description of Jesus or the cross or the Little Drummer Boy..." But, they were the book of prayers. Have you read the OT books that are called the books of the prophets? Those guys were prophets. God spoke to them and told them to say certain things. He didn't give them feelings or inspirations. He gave them instructions. Did David receive instructions? I guess so because the NT explicitly says that he was a prophet. Did Solomon receive instructions? I guess not. Could you imply that he did? Perhaps.

Regardless of what revelations from God he received, how could David have been a prophet, if he didnt serve the role as a messenger of God? Prophets like Isaiah and Ezekiel preached to the people-David was just a king.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

since God's Word calls David a prophet, he is a prophet....

still, if you want a more recent authority, here's one with several references in it as well , all acknowledge David as a prophet.

(part of the difficulty today is almost no one today knows a prophet or teaches the truth about them).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David
>>>>
Prophets in the Hebrew Bible
Pre-Patriarchal

Abel
Kenan
Enoch
Noah (in rabbinic literature)

Patriarchs / Matriarchs

Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Joseph
Sarah
Rebecca
Rachel
Leah

Israelite prophets
in the Torah


Moses (in rabbinic literature)
Aaron
Miriam
Eldad and Medad
Phinehas

Mentioned in the
Former Prophets


Joshua
Deborah
Gideon
Eli
Elkanah
Hannah
Abigail
Samuel
Gad
Nathan
David
Solomon
Jeduthun
Ahijah
Elijah
Elisha
Shemaiah
Iddo
Hanani
Jehu
Micaiah
Jahaziel
Eliezer
Zechariah ben Jehoiada
Huldah

Major

Isaiah (in rabbinic literature)
Jeremiah
Ezekiel
Daniel (in rabbinic literature)

Minor

Hosea
Joel
Amos
Obadiah
Jonah (in rabbinic literature)
Micah
Nahum
Habakkuk
Zephaniah
Haggai
Zechariah
Malachi

Noahide

Beor
Balaam
Job (in rabbinic literature)

Other

Amoz
Beeri
Baruch
Agur
Uriah
Buzi
Mordecai
Esther (in rabbinic literature)
Oded
Azariah

 

[Sammy-San]

since God's Word calls David a prophet, he is a prophet....

still, if you want a more recent authority, here's one with several references in it as well , all acknowledge David as a prophet.

(part of the difficulty today is almost no one today knows a prophet or teaches the truth about them).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David
>>>>
Prophets in the Hebrew Bible
Pre-Patriarchal

Abel
Kenan
Enoch
Noah (in rabbinic literature)

Patriarchs / Matriarchs

Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Joseph
Sarah
Rebecca
Rachel
Leah

Israelite prophets
in the Torah


Moses (in rabbinic literature)
Aaron
Miriam
Eldad and Medad
Phinehas

Mentioned in the
Former Prophets


Joshua
Deborah
Gideon
Eli
Elkanah
Hannah
Abigail
Samuel
Gad
Nathan
David
Solomon
Jeduthun
Ahijah
Elijah
Elisha
Shemaiah
Iddo
Hanani
Jehu
Micaiah
Jahaziel
Eliezer
Zechariah ben Jehoiada
Huldah

Major

Isaiah (in rabbinic literature)
Jeremiah
Ezekiel
Daniel (in rabbinic literature)

Minor

Hosea
Joel
Amos
Obadiah
Jonah (in rabbinic literature)
Micah
Nahum
Habakkuk
Zephaniah
Haggai
Zechariah
Malachi

Noahide

Beor
Balaam
Job (in rabbinic literature)

Other

Amoz
Beeri
Baruch
Agur
Uriah
Buzi
Mordecai
Esther (in rabbinic literature)
Oded
Azariah

Im not saying David wasnt a prophet, but I just dont understand why he is considered a prophet-since he didnt preach to people or have the traditional role that the other prophets had.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

none of God's Word is because what we consider right or wrong or normal or average.
our (almost everybody's) understanding is abominable(horrible and wrong) because practically
everything we've been taught by example, teaching, training, observation, media, schools, and so on
in the last 2000 years is basically wrong, except and unless
someone somewhere was
trained right as a child in the way he should go (haven't met anyone yet who qualifies, in over 40 years.. just under a few though I have heard about and their testimony is true.)

the few today who have good understanding is by sheer grace, in lives immersed in Yeshua's Name, devoted to Yhvh in service to Him in all things and in every area submitted to Him - work,sleep,worship,time all day long, all night, all week, all the year long, all the life long; nothing not
willingly and joyfully for all time and forever subjected to Him in Yeshua Messiah......

Im not saying David wasnt a prophet, but I just dont understand why he is considered a prophet-since he didnt preach to people or have the traditional role that the other prophets had.

 

[BryanW92]

Im not saying David wasnt a prophet, but I just dont understand why he is considered a prophet-since he didnt preach to people or have the traditional role that the other prophets had.

Bro. Buddy Martin - Studies

 

[Gunny]

In my humble opinion both David and Solomon were prophets.

In my humble opinion a prophet is a mediator between God and man and speaks only what he has heard by inspiration from God.