So you make your conclusions with the obvious flaw you have stated. Perhaps you should look at the posts I have made on the (Sunni) Islamic forums I am a member on. Woops! Once again your making assumptions based on ignorance show a problem.
Ah yes, of course, every single Christian here deflec....I mean, "concerned" about Muslim homosexuals was off busily defending them on other boards, so I suppose I can't begrudge them from taking a moment off to defend their noble selves and correct Dan Savage
And yet despite the fact that many of these Christian posters are frequent posters on this board, none of them could be bothered to make a thread about this oh-so-pressing issue that they are just SOOOOOOO "concerned" about on this board. Of course.
In case that didn't make it adequately clear - you're conflating making an assumption for appealing to the most likely outcome. Hardly egregiously unreasonable
It does not matter. For it to be systematic it needs to be the majority who are doing it. A small amount of people in a group does not make it systematic.
Er.....systematic refers to frequency, not who is carrying it out, so it does not matter whether a group is the majority or not.
Even then, you still have failed to grasp my point. My point is that you referred to non-Christian discrimination. That's not a group, at least not in the same way as Christianity is, as the only thing that non-Christians have in common is their rejection of Christianity, not a set of claims about homosexuality.
please provide proof of this claim. the claim that christians are wrong in their treatment of homosexuals. by proof I expect you to provide proof of what my behaviour towards LGBT's is like. Ok I know you can't but at the end of the day you are making a statement from ignorance based on the actions of a few which is not agreed with by the majority. i do not personally know one christian who is aggressive towards gays or hateful. i do know non-christians who are.
Ok fine, I left out the word "some", although I've been careful for most of this thread to make it as clear as possible that I don't think all Christians behave badly towards homosexuals, although I do question the ones who instead of acknowledging Savage's point make red herrings ad infinitum about Muslims.
Those Christians that bully homosexuals are hardly being loving, and in terms of the actual effects of homosexuality there are no problems with it that aren't equally applicable to heterosexuality. If they want to claim it's morally wrong, they're going to have to do a bit better than Godsaidit.
But again, this is all just missing the point - the criticism was of the Bible and the verses used to inspire hatred. Play the no-true-Christian fallacy card all you like, it won't change the fact that these people were inspired by it, so Savage's criticism is still bang on.
it would be like expecting you not to have double standards and hypocrisy!
It would be great if you could actually correctly demonstrate whether or not I have any first
But no, you carry on talking about Muslims in a thread about Christians being bullies.
it is the exact same underlying behaviour at the end of the day. you can just look at surface if you want but I will look at the actual behaviour not the outcomes of the behaviour and be critical of both sides.
You think criticism is the same as threatening to kill someone?
try explaining that to Gadarene! He doesn't seem to understand that. i reckon I would fall in the category of evangelical and I am 100% certain Dan Savage would have no problem with my stance.
Yeah, er, I'm not the one who took criticism of a book to be equivalent to bullying of people, champ, nor did I intentionally conflate American Christians with Middle Eastern Muslims - and I've been pretty consistent on that since my first contribution here.
Sometimes I have to tell people online to read posts before they respond to them, but this is the first time in a long while I've had to tell someone to reread the entire thread before they respond further.
So, congratulations
