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Jacob the twister.....
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i am not alone in failing to see your invention of a supposed contradiction that doesn't exist , you think responsibilty to repent rules out repentence is a gift , even though scripture texts say it , with that type of narrow blinkered reasoning , it is easy to see why you always quote only those scriptures that support ONE SIDE of the truth , you are without a doubt lopsided in your understanding expressed online ben.
but scripture does say the "faith OF GOD" , not merely faith in God , so again selective proof texting proves you are nothing but biased !
you did't generate saving faith ben , God gave it to you , without Him you can do nothing remember!
there are many verses but you refuse to believe God's Word ben ,
Saving Faith is God's gift ;
We are told that Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith - Hebrews 12:2 "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith."
Acts 3:16 "yea, the faith which is by him (not just 'in' him, but BY Him) hath given him this perfect soundness "
Acts 18:27 "he helped them much which had believed THROUGH GRACE." It wasn't just that they believed "in" grace, by it was 'through grace' that they believed.
1 Cor 4
[7] For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?
....... so you choose to remain tunnel visioned because of your unbelief
yes even those creeds that are not Calvinist say Faith is God's gift , it is far too clear for any other than those with an axe to grind , an aggenda , to be open enough to believe anything beyond their own shibboleths.
it has been shown over and over ben ............... what exactly is the point in showing you a dozen scriptures when you refuse to believe , but instead see it as a game to re-interpret many texts to deny their obvious meaning ?
yours is not an inquiring open mind but one set and fixed on opposing an ism , Calvinism , at all costs......... but I accept man's responsibility and God's ABSOLUTE SOVEREIGNTY without reservation , they are in harmony
scriptures says "not all men have faith" , but ben says they all have it but choose not to excercise it ......
scripture says the "faith OF GOD" seems pretty clear what "of" means . it means faith comes to us - from God , recall , faith comes by hearing the Word Of God , we don't already have it at birth !!!
scripture says it is granted , that we not only believe on Christ but suffer ..... but you spite God's declaration and say granted means ONLY "permit" , such falsification is sin.
scriptures says we are saved "by grace through faith and that not of ourselves it is the gift of God , ie , saved by Grace through faith is NOT of ourselves .
scripture says we are chosen for salvation , but you cannot bear to hear it .
scripture says God has mercy upon those He will have mercy upon and hardenes those He will , but you will not have it so you contradict it by extracting a scripture out of context , that God has mercy upon all , which would contradict with Romans 9!
on and on ........................ one contradiction of scripture after the next , with no serious thought about the judgement of tampering with God's word you even add to it , hack and hew it to suit your one and only aggenda , to overturn predestination and election , which your soul hates.
saving faith is a wonderful gift , you really think you created it ben , rofl!!
"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith" - Hebrews 12:2. He is its source, its fountain, the giver, and the perfector of our faith. Every good and perfect gift is from above, and faith is a gift from God. "A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven." John 3:27.
Philippians 1:29 "For unto you IT IS GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but also to suffer for his sake."
2 Peter 1:1 "to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ". They obtained this faith, they did not have it to begin with and then did their part to exercise it.
2 Corinthians 10:15 "when your faith is increased". This is a passive verb. Someone else increases our faith. It is the Lord, as even the apostles recognized when they said to Him in Luke 17:5 "Lord, increase our faith."
scripture says that person/s are said to be FOREKOWN , ie, those whom He foreknew ........... fine , now show us where in scripture does it state anything like "what men do is forseen and then God chooses on the basis of what is forseen !
it is persons not actions that are said to be foreknown and chosen
there are no scriptures , not even one that states anything about what is forseen being the ground of God's decision , Grace not forseen faith is the reason for our salvation !
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