Some may argue that the Talmud or Oral Law puts things into place that usurp the Torah.
That the Torah should not be added to or subtracted from.
While I agree that Yeshua got on the Pharisees about traditions, was he really teaching there should be no 'fences' or was he just indicating that they shouldn't be held 'above' the Torah? I think the latter.
@visionary started a thread which lead me to finding out about Rabbi Avraham Feld who has been active for most of his life in the restoration of Judah and Israel. One of the articles I found spoke on the Karaites and how they are actually hindering this restoration and I got to wondering is the Messianic Movement also doing this?
Here in part is what he is saying:
Numerous times the Torah says to the Rabbinic leadership [Moses, Aaron, the Elders, Johsua, Kelev, Etamar, the Judges, the Prophets, etc.] to keep and guard that very selfsame Torah [i.e. Ex. 20:2, Lev. 29:3, Deut.17, Deut. 5:8].
The Torah injunction to the Guardians of the Torah, is depicted by the pictorial representation of the very letters of the Biblical word 'Shomer' (Guard). It represents a picture of a simple handmade corral or fence - a field fence made of inter connected branches, sticks, thorns and thistles. Our Torah leadership are comparable to Shepherds who need to fence in their beloved sheep, ‘from fear in the [dangerous] night' [Song of Songs 3:7 -8]. Thus the very concrete, physical black ink of the shape of the letters cry out for our leadership to protect and tangibly guard the Torah. That’s not adding, that’s just protecting.
Rabbinic leadership owns itself the Divinely mandated right to guard the Torah - not to add to or detract from it, No Rabbi anywhere calls such a protective measure (directive, hedge or fence), a Torah law. They are merely placing a hedge of roses around to save the Torah laws from being carelessly trampled. Thus it is a Biblical directive to make fences around the Torah Law values.
The Torah commands us in no uncertain terms to make whatever protective decrees that those in authority deem necessary [Deut.17]. Rabbis are often accused of making their own 'man-made' laws. The fence made by the Shepherd is man made for a specific purpose indeed, utilizing the Shepherd’s intelligence, creativity and wisdom. With these concepts now in mind, you can see, touch, feel and hear the deep Biblical basis for the following representation as defined by the Mishnah:
• Moses received the Torah from Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua;
• Joshua to the Elders;
• the elders to the Prophets;
• and the Prophets transmitted it to the Men of the Great Assembly (the 120 leading Prophets and Sages towards the end of the Tanach - O.T)
You can read the full article here.
That the Torah should not be added to or subtracted from.
While I agree that Yeshua got on the Pharisees about traditions, was he really teaching there should be no 'fences' or was he just indicating that they shouldn't be held 'above' the Torah? I think the latter.
@visionary started a thread which lead me to finding out about Rabbi Avraham Feld who has been active for most of his life in the restoration of Judah and Israel. One of the articles I found spoke on the Karaites and how they are actually hindering this restoration and I got to wondering is the Messianic Movement also doing this?
Here in part is what he is saying:
Numerous times the Torah says to the Rabbinic leadership [Moses, Aaron, the Elders, Johsua, Kelev, Etamar, the Judges, the Prophets, etc.] to keep and guard that very selfsame Torah [i.e. Ex. 20:2, Lev. 29:3, Deut.17, Deut. 5:8].
The Torah injunction to the Guardians of the Torah, is depicted by the pictorial representation of the very letters of the Biblical word 'Shomer' (Guard). It represents a picture of a simple handmade corral or fence - a field fence made of inter connected branches, sticks, thorns and thistles. Our Torah leadership are comparable to Shepherds who need to fence in their beloved sheep, ‘from fear in the [dangerous] night' [Song of Songs 3:7 -8]. Thus the very concrete, physical black ink of the shape of the letters cry out for our leadership to protect and tangibly guard the Torah. That’s not adding, that’s just protecting.
Rabbinic leadership owns itself the Divinely mandated right to guard the Torah - not to add to or detract from it, No Rabbi anywhere calls such a protective measure (directive, hedge or fence), a Torah law. They are merely placing a hedge of roses around to save the Torah laws from being carelessly trampled. Thus it is a Biblical directive to make fences around the Torah Law values.
The Torah commands us in no uncertain terms to make whatever protective decrees that those in authority deem necessary [Deut.17]. Rabbis are often accused of making their own 'man-made' laws. The fence made by the Shepherd is man made for a specific purpose indeed, utilizing the Shepherd’s intelligence, creativity and wisdom. With these concepts now in mind, you can see, touch, feel and hear the deep Biblical basis for the following representation as defined by the Mishnah:
• Moses received the Torah from Sinai and transmitted it to Joshua;
• Joshua to the Elders;
• the elders to the Prophets;
• and the Prophets transmitted it to the Men of the Great Assembly (the 120 leading Prophets and Sages towards the end of the Tanach - O.T)
You can read the full article here.
