Obama's out of control!Obama Is Renaming the Tallest Mountain in North America

cow451 · Aug 31, 2015

Red Fox said:
But... but... but...

Now aren't you embarrassed? Being on the same side of a issue as Sarah Palin. :swoon:

Although, I agree with the change. :oldthumbsup:

FreeSpirit74 · Aug 31, 2015

KWCrazy said:
It really takes a special kind of stupid to be enamored by this man.

That stands even more true for the people who are pro-Trump.

Red Fox · Aug 31, 2015

cow451 said:
Now aren't you embarrassed? Being on the same side of a issue as Sarah Palin.

Although, I agree with the change.

Oh wait... Oh yeah, that is embarrassing. :doh:

But I guess I'll have to buck it up because I'm all for the name change. :sorry:

FreeSpirit74 · Aug 31, 2015

OldWiseGuy said:
Flew around Denali in 1992 (couldn't fly 'over', no oxygen). Loaded with beautiful glaciers. Mountain was referred to as Denali then by many other than natives. Even our pilot called the mountain Denali. Hooray for the 'new' old name!

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Did you take that photo? That is an amazing shot!

Belk · Aug 31, 2015

The audacity of that man! Who does he think he is, the president?

cow451 · Aug 31, 2015

Red Fox said:
Oh wait... Oh yeah, that is embarrassing.

But I guess I'll have to buck it up because I'm all for the name change.

Even a blind hog sometimes roots up a turnip. So, Palin accidentally got something right.

Red Fox · Aug 31, 2015

cow451 said:
Even a blind hog sometimes roots up a turnip. So, Palin accidentally got something right.

LOL.

Supreme · Aug 31, 2015

Wow, what a stunning part of God's Earth that mountain is. Nothing make me more in awe of Him than such beauty.

Anyway, the name change is inevitable. Since Alaskans already call it Dinali anyway. It's good it's getting official recognition, though. Dinali is a much nice name than Mckinnely, a man I'd never even heard of, and someone with no connection whatsoever to the mountain.

This reminds me of the name change of Ayer's Rock back to the better, Aboriginal Uluru in Australia.

Red Fox · Aug 31, 2015

FreeSpirit74 said:
Better this than changing the name of something of importance to Native Americans to a white/European name.

I agree. This mountain was called Denali by the indigenous people of Alaska for hundreds of years before it was ever arrogantly renamed after a U.S. president.

Tallguy88 · Aug 31, 2015

Red Fox said:
I agree. This mountain was called Denali by the indigenous people of Alaska for hundreds of years before it was ever arrogantly renamed after a U.S. president.

Not even a president, a nominee (at the time).

It would be like naming it Mt. Dole.

Red Fox · Aug 31, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
Not even a president, a nominee (at the time).

It would be like naming it Mt. Dole.

Yes, I know. I think I was right to edit what I previously wrote in this post. It is probably best that I keep those thoughts to myself.

Chicken Little · Aug 31, 2015

Arcangl86 said:
Yeah President Obama really is out of control, you know with him using the powers specifically granted to him by legislation. On a more serious note, this is good I think. It's acknowledging the culture of the local area, which I think is more important then naming it after a President that has absolutely no connection to the mountain or state.

so he is going to do one thing legally his right is he ? ok.

Poor Beggar · Aug 31, 2015

grasping the after wind said:
Where is it written that the President of The United States gets to decide what a mountain is called? I really do not care what the mountain is called but I think that deciding what it ought to be called ought not to be the decision of one person.

Exactly. Not a big issue, but representative of the last 7 years.

Poor Beggar · Aug 31, 2015

FreeSpirit74 said:
The people of Alaska are almost unanimous in their support of this change, from what I understand.

Better this than changing the name of something of importance to Native Americans to a white/European name.

Did they come up with the change, then? If they came up with it, great. I had thought the President came up with the change unilaterally, which would be wrong even if the issue is not a major one. Whether the people supported it would be a side-point if he wrongly came up with this on his own.

Poor Beggar · Aug 31, 2015

GoldenBoy89 said:
Renaming a mountain to what was it's historical name given to it by the historical native inhabitants of the area and also is used by modern day Alaskans, is Obama being out of control?

I'm gonna say lay off the FOX news. You seem to be suffering from a condition known as ODS or Obama Derangement Syndrome.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Obama+Derangement+Syndrome

The acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the statements -- nay -- the very existence of Barack Obama.

I don't think they're arguing that what he's doing is morally wrong, but that it's an overextension of his authority. It could be called Kill-The-Injuns Mountain. He would still need to go through some sort of proper channels to do this. We're not a monarchy.
Is it important? Probably not. People are just angry because it's more of the same.

Red Fox · Aug 31, 2015

Poor Beggar said:
Did they come up with the change, then? If they came up with it, great. I had thought the President came up with the change unilaterally, which would be wrong even if the issue is not a major one. Whether the people supported it would be a side-point if he wrongly came up with this on his own.

No, the President did not do this on his own, as the OP seems to suggests. I explain what happened in my previous post here.

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...ntain-in-north-america.7905368/#post-68539308

Poor Beggar · Aug 31, 2015

trunks2k said:
Well it's located in a national park, which is controlled by the National Park Service, which under the executive branch. So I would assume that absent an act of Congress, the president has the power to tell the NPS what to call it in some way, and what the NPS calls it is what it will be generally known as. Alaskans already call it Denali and have been trying to get previous admins or congress to change the name.

EDIT: Apparently the Department of the Interior, which falls under the executive branch, has the power to do this. Interior Secretary Sally Jewell is going to issue an order Board on Geographic Names. So there's where the President can essentially decide what a mountain is called.

Good to know. So the whole thing might be a non-issue then. He might actually be using proper channels and authority.

GoldenBoy89 · Aug 31, 2015

Poor Beggar said:
Did they come up with the change, then? If they came up with it, great. I had thought the President came up with the change unilaterally, which would be wrong even if the issue is not a major one. Whether the people supported it would be a side-point if he wrongly came up with this on his own.

The mountain was already named Denali for like... hundreds of years before Obama was ever born, even before Alaska was ever a US State. The people of Alaska call it Denali. The park the mountain is in is called Denali.

I mean... this could not be any more of a non-issue.

Oafman · Aug 31, 2015

I want to hear more about this 'decades-old conflict' between Alaska and Ohio, which the Blaze article in the OP mentions but fails to expand on. Does Canada get caught in the crossfire?

Red Fox · Aug 31, 2015

It could be called .... Mountain.

With all due respect and I sincerely mean it, please do not use that particular phrase. I would appreciate it very much.

And I am not directly quoting the person who said it on purpose, because I have no intention of calling that person out or shaming them for using it.

I am simply asking, out of respect and honor, not to use that particular phrase. I find it hurtful and disrespectful. And I mean no offense by asking.

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