Planet Fitness sees $400 MILLION wiped off value just five days after banning member who exposed 'trans woman' shaving in the female locker room

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At this point, I would trust personal anecdotes over wild rants gleaned from low-quality inflammatory media outlets. I also know a number of trans people and don't see what the big deal is. For whatever reason, the folks I've known have nearly all been men transitioning to women, and they've all been inclined to over-share about their experience (I'm starting to wonder if there's a hormonal thing behind the sharing, because it's starting to look like a pattern). And it's not about the act of sex or who they get to have sex with. I've known people who were really into ~sex~ and this is not that. For all of the trans people I've known, it's been about personal identity and finally feeling comfortable with themselves.

To those of us who know trans people, the vitriol coming from the right just looks like more of the ignorant bigotry that they spew at outside groups all the time. Every 5-10 years you guys pick a new group to hate on and trans people happen to be the targets du jour.
I watched interviews of trans people explaining it all.

The current objections are men invading women's sports and private spaces, being told how to talk, and transexualism being foisted on school children.
 
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I watched interviews of trans people explaining it all.

Oh, did you now? Which interviews would those have been?

The current objections are men invading women's sports and private spaces, being told how to talk, and transexualism being foisted on school children.
How does one "foist" transgenderism on school children?
 
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I suppose your're right. To me they're just friends and acquaintances. Perhaps that has blinded me to the truth that they are degenerate sex-crazed monsters after my children.
Most of the time people don't realize someone is a child molester until it's too late. So someone not seeming like whatever isn't always the best metric to go by.

And why do you keep talking about your children as if they are young when you say that you're 81? Doesn't make much sense.
 
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Oh, did you now? Which interviews would those have been?
I've mentioned them and even posted them. There's plenty I've learned from like Addison Rose Vincent. I'd have to look up the other names.
How does one "foist" transgenderism on school children?
By making it part of the curriculum including graphic erotica. There's plenty of videos of school board meetings and senate hearings going over all of it.

This what I've been talking about, people who argue this stuff with me don't have a clue. They just do a lot of uninformed supposing.
 
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Most of the time people don't realize someone is a child molester until it's too late. So someone not seeming like whatever isn't always the best metric to go by.

And why do you keep talking about your children as if they are young when you say that you're 81? Doesn't make much sense.
I have grandchildren still in preschool, grandnieces and nephews, all whom I care for and would not see come to harm. Certainly I would protect them from those who wished to molest them, physically or mentally.
 
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I concede that one drag queen out of hundreds has claimed to be heterosexual. But considering Daniel Truitt is referred to as "she", that's tenuous at best and certainly doesn't go with a man being straight.
Do you understand that like Robin Williams is a person and Mrs. Doubtfire was a role he played, the same is true of Daniel Truitt and Maddy Morphosis?

Truitt identifies as heterosexual and cisgender,[14] and uses the pronouns she/her when in drag.
 
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I have grandchildren still in preschool, grandnieces and nephews, all whom I care for and would not see come to harm. Certainly I would protect them from those who wished to molest them, physically or mentally.
That's true of most. Yet it still happens a lot because it goes on undetected, unrecognized.
 
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You think they should've allowed somebody to continue taking photos inside the locker room?
That's not the issue I'm talking about. Though I'm sure that is what they want to reduce it to.
 
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That's not the issue I'm talking about. Though I'm sure that is what they want to reduce it to.
You said that you cancelled your membership - I assumed that was to protest their action, which was to cancel the membership of somebody who violated club rules by taking photos in the locker room.
 
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Do you understand that like Robin Williams is a person and Mrs. Doubtfire was a role he played, the same is true of Daniel Truitt and Maddy Morphosis?

Truitt identifies as heterosexual and cisgender,[14] and uses the pronouns she/her when in drag.
They're nothing alike. Robin Williams didn't make a career and lifestyle out of playing Mrs. Doubtfire. And Truitt, as pointed out already, is the exception the rarity. All the other drag queens were astonished by it.


Getting back to Mrs. Doubtfire and Tootsie etc, those where one off movie roles and therefore are hardly comparable to drag queens.
 
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Personally Anthony Perkins is my favorite drag queen.

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And Truitt, as pointed out already, is the exception the rarity.
This started with you challenging "Betcha you can't name one."

So I retire from the field victorious.
 
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Obscene gay erotica being supplied to school children is alright as long as they're not being forced at gunpoint to read it? Is that your reasoning?
No, I asked if they were being made to read these. As I understood from other posts, this particular case was a book found in the library? Perhaps I'm mixing things up with some other case. If it's a book in a school library, I hardly see the outrage here. If it's not age appropriate, than the librarians should just deal with the matter and if it's a book in a library, the amount of kids who will even know it exists is vanishingly small. Details have been quite lacking in this thread about what exactly this case was about.
I'll need to look up more about it, but I always take claims by Americans about "sexually explicit" stuff with a grain of salt. No offence, but as a society, the US is collectively a bit of a prude when it comes to sex and sexuality.
I think they're obviously out to pervert the minds of children. What do you think the aim is?
All trans people are out to pervert children? Is that what you are saying? I don't think there's an aim really at play here, outside of inclusivity. There's always people with every cause and thought who take things too far, that's nothing new and uncommon.
 
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Again, brief one time movie roles. Not comparable to full time drag queens.
Full time? Tony Curtis was gay and dressed like a woman to play a role. Just like those two below. You don't suppose they dress like that at home all the time, do you?
And definitely not comparable to this:

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Or this:

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They certainly both look very dangerous. I'm quaking in my Kinky Boots.
 
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Full time? Tony Curtis was gay and dressed like a woman to play a role. Just like those two below. You don't suppose they dress like that at home all the time, do you?

They certainly both look very dangerous. I'm quaking in my Kinky Boots.
Disgusting. This garbage doesn’t need to be around children.
 
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Full time? Tony Curtis was gay and dressed like a woman to play a role. Just like those two below. You don't suppose they dress like that at home all the time, do you?
They do it a whole lot of the time over a very extended period of time. Unlike Tony Curtis who did it once in a movie studio. They are not comparable.
They certainly both look very dangerous. I'm quaking in my Kinky Boots
The idea is to get little kids as comfortable as possible with extreme bizarre kinky weirdness. It's a system of desensitizing.
 
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No, I asked if they were being made to read these. As I understood from other posts, this particular case was a book found in the library? Perhaps I'm mixing things up with some other case. If it's a book in a school library, I hardly see the outrage here. If it's not age appropriate, than the librarians should just deal with the matter and if it's a book in a library, the amount of kids who will even know it exists is vanishingly small. Details have been quite lacking in this thread about what exactly this case was about.
I'll need to look up more about it, but I always take claims by Americans about "sexually explicit" stuff with a grain of salt. No offence, but as a society, the US is collectively a bit of a prude when it comes to sex and sexuality.
It's happening in schools all over the place. It's clear that the woke left and LGBTQIA2+ wants children reading graphic erotica and are throwing tantrums over it being banned from schools. There are US Senate hearings over it. Go to YouTube and look up Senator John Kennedy reads from children's books. I can't post such a video here because what he reads out loud from children's school books is way too obscene.
All trans people are out to pervert children? Is that what you are saying? I don't think there's an aim really at play here, outside of inclusivity. There's always people with every cause and thought who take things too far, that's nothing new and uncommon.
Those who are involved are and it's not just trans people but those on the woke left in general who are involved.

 
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