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Why I refused the Covid-19 ‘vaccine’

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But this is not a conspiracy theory , read the thread , the vaccine did not have the proper testing period as did most vaccines in the past.
It's totally a conspiracy theory. Anti vax is going to anti vax. They are either poorly informed, liars or grifters. There is no other category.

Yeah, it did. Not as long in terms of time but in terms of test hours it was more than sufficient. I've had three jabs, my wiife has had four. Neither of us or anyone I know has died of the vaccine.
 
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It's totally a conspiracy theory. Anti vax is going to anti vax. They are either poorly informed, liars or grifters. There is no other category.

Yeah, it did. Not as long in terms of time but in terms of test hours it was more than sufficient. I've had three jabs, my wiife has had four. Neither of us or anyone I know has died of the vaccine.
Not everyone is dying but many are now ill , and those people I have spoken too say they know it was the jab.
A friend of mine had three doctors tell her they know it's the jab that's causing many of the probs they are seeing.

I guess in the end it's going to be a matter of what one wants to believe.
 
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Not everyone is dying but many are now ill , and those people I have spoken too say they know it was the jab.
A friend of mine had three doctors tell her they know it's the jab that's causing many of the probs they are seeing.
That might be the case for some people - and maybe they had underlying health issues or reacted to something that was in the vaccine.
But, like the above poster, I have had 4 jabs and am still here - as far as I'm aware I haven't even had Covid.

If people have had Covid, some are unlucky enough to get long Covid which causes fatigue, muscle problems etc. Some are unfortunate enough to be quite ill with Covid. How can someone prove that it was definitely the vaccine which caused their problems rather than the illness, or something else?
 
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Not everyone is dying but many are now ill , and those people I have spoken too say they know it was the jab.
A friend of mine had three doctors tell her they know it's the jab that's causing many of the probs they are seeing.

I guess in the end it's going to be a matter of what one wants to believe.
No. It’s what the evidence says. Not what people want to believe.
 
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How can someone prove that it was definitely the vaccine which caused their problems rather than the illness, or something else?
That's a good point . but then how are people recieving payouts for injuries from the vax?
 
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That's a good point . but then how are people recieving payouts for injuries from the vax?
I've no idea.
Like I asked, "how does someone prove .....?" Either some doctors have conceded that there is evidence, or lawyers are winning their cases based on something else?
 
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Well is this enough evidence.

I doubt one YouTube clip would be considered evidence of anything.
Saying that "thousands are lining up for compensation" and "thousands have medical, and legal grounds, for claiming compensation, because their symptoms were caused by the vaccination" are two different things.

What about the evidence of those who had the vaccine and had no ill effects at all.
All I ever got - with jab number 4 - was a slightly aching arm for a couple of hours.
 
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But this is not a conspiracy theory , read the thread , the vaccine did not have the proper testing period as did most vaccines in the past.
Its a bit more complicated. Only vaccines against diseases that do not mutate quickly, like for example whooping cough or tetanus, can be tested for years or even decades.

Vaccines against diseases that mutate quickly, like coronavirus or flu, must be updated almost every season, so only the general knowledge remains the same (of the coronavirus family or of the vaccination technology, for example).
 
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What about the evidence of those who had the vaccine and had no ill effects at all.
All I ever got - with jab number 4 - was a slightly aching arm for a couple of hours.
Yeah that's right , nobody seems to know why some people are effected and some not
 
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Its a bit more complicated. Only vaccines against diseases that do not mutate quickly, like for example whooping cough or tetanus, can be tested for years or even decades.

Vaccines against diseases that mutate quickly, like coronavirus or flu, must be updated almost every season, so only the general knowledge remains the same (of the coronavirus family or of the vaccination technology, for example).
I like what your saying here your making good sense. But did they change the vaccines to suit the different strains as they arrived..?
 
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I like what your saying here your making good sense. But did they change the vaccines to suit the different strains as they arrived..?
Yes, for example of February 2024:

 
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The vet refused to give me the vaccine!
Well there you go , you and me no vaccine and we are still here.
Kinda makes you wonder why people bothered taking it , oh thats right I almost forgot , the Gov put a gun to peoples heads and said you better take this boy or were gonna destroy your life , we will make sure that you never work again , you will loose your job and your house and anything else your paying off. So come here boy and take this.

And of course the sheeple did what they were told , not ever wondering how come the unvaxcinated like you and me are still walking around unaffected.

Now have you had your dinner?....would you like a bone ?....or maybe you just like to go for a walk.
It's ok for you to walk with me , I promise you won't get covid.
 
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the Gov put a gun to peoples heads and said you better take this boy or were gonna destroy your life , we will make sure that you never work again , you will loose your job and your house and anything else your paying off. So come here boy and take this.
What country/state said this? I have never heard about such measures. There were, for a time, temporarily, obligatory testing requirements for people who were coming to an office job, for example, and who were not vaccinated. Or for travelling between countries.
 
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