Syria: Broken Nation

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

If the previous posts, also quoted below, don't convince you, you can also contact one of the former prisoners of Assad's regime yourself. Here is some of the account he gave on his twitter:

reading Amnesty report reminds me of 5months 2 times) i spent in regime prisons (branches 235,215 in Damascus) with same details >> the systematic and punctual schedule of torture,execution,beating is what kill the detainees everyday and make them feel so hopeless >> wake up, stand to make space for another to sleep, eat moldy food, taken to interrogation, beaten, electric shocking, hanged by legs, back to cell,
trying to heal wounds, help others, listening to cries, try to sleep, scratch my body(Scabies), make space for others but they didn't came back, trying to think of what to say tomorrow (can't snitch friends) thinking of how to stop bleeding of a16yo boy sodomized with a stick>> i failed &he died,try to remember his family details (what was his father name?) sleeping, dreaming of sweet death,making space for others>> thinking what went wrong (all this just to stop corruption and have free elections?), eat 2bread loafs (hooray a win) torture, passing out, telling someone my family details (who will leave first of us), two people fighting for a space (both already bleeding) trying to sleep>

horror(guards wants fun)walking to a room watching guys being raped(am i next?)electricity noise(i know i will pass out&it happened)>> back to cell,sleeping.cockroachs all over my body(i envy them)and so days go until i'm meeting judge accusing me of terror,sign papers>> given back ID,and released,haven't seen the sun for weeks,no taxi for home(smell like poop),roaming the streets and people looking at me

if you think we(ex-detainees) will ever forget and let the regime unpunished then you are wrong,eye for an eye Putin is not here forever

my mission was telling families,searched a lot and shared bad news(no good news that someone still living this)at least people had closure. i saw the father of that 16yo kid,i told him his son attacked guards(i lied)and got killed&he said"i always knew he is brave"(was i wrong?)

i was 63Kg before and 34 when i was released with several broken rips&fingers,dislocated shoulder,concussion,scabies and 6electric burns

second time in Palestine branch(resistance huh?)was much worse(double everything)lsurvived with a failed kidney nearly blind(left eye)

no i don't accept other to be tortured even when armed opposition commit this(they did)any human being can't accept this >> those pro-Assad have seen this for 5 years but still accept it and cheer it aren't human at all,parasites follow their evil terrorist Assad

the 16yo kid was from a small village near Marj al-sultan airbase in ghouta,he was making funny comments during Baath ideology class>>> and outside the school he was also saying childish stuff,he was arrested inside the school,female teacher came with officers and took 5 kids

my friend Waseem Abu Zenah genius Palestinian programmer was offered job at Google ME office,arrested at university&killed under torture

Waseem was from al-Yarmouk camp in Damascus,opened his own business in programming,arrested while he was receiving certificate at university

another friend Fadi Murad an artist from Homs #Syria was killed under torture in 2014

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So comforting remembering that Allaah is never forgetful.

Before and after: a Saydnaya detainee. Photograph: Amnesty

After the pulverising bombings, the brutal sieges and the barbaric chemical weapons attacks, you might think nothing could shock you now about the catastrophic conflict in Syria. You’d be wrong.

Amnesty has learned from prisoners who were detained there and released and former guards about what they describe as a calculated programme of extermination taking place in one of President Bashar al-Assad’s military prisons – Saydnaya, in Damascus. Here, they have told Amnesty, thousands of civilians considered opponents of the regime are systematically starved, deliberately dehumanised, mercilessly tortured and finally hanged in the utmost secrecy in the dead of night, 20 to 50 at a time. These witnesses have described executions and the conditions in the prison before December 2015 but they could be continuing.

It’s like something from a grindingly bleak horror film – a grotesque series of depraved acts that almost defies description. I wish it weren’t true. But I’ve sat and talked to one of the survivors of Saydnaya, and I know it’s all horribly real. Amnesty has gathered testimony from 31 former Saydnaya detainees as well as former guards, and we calculate that between 5,000 to 13,000 people have been hanged at Saydnaya since the uprising against Assad began, possibly many more.

Assad’s slaughterhouse defies description, but it’s horrifyingly real

The report said: "Throughout this process, they remain blindfolded. They do not know when or how they will die until the noose was placed around their necks."

Most of the victims were civilians believed to be opposed to the government of President Bashar al-Assad.

"They kept them [hanging] there for 10 to 15 minutes," a former judge who witnessed the executions said.

"For the young ones, their weight wouldn't kill them. The officers' assistants would pull them down and break their necks," he said.

Syria hanged 13,000 in Saydnaya prison: Amnesty

'Hamid', a former military officer who was detained at Saydnaya:

"If you put your ears on the floor, you could hear the sound of a kind of gurgling. This would last around 10 minutes… We were sleeping on top of the sound of people choking to death. This was normal for me then."

Syria conflict: Thousands hanged at Saydnaya prison, Amnesty says

“Many of the prisoners said they were raped or in some cases forced to rape other prisoners. Torture and beatings are used as a regular form of punishment and degradation, often leading to life-long damage, disability or even death,” the report says. “The cell floors are covered with blood and puss from prisoners’ wounds. The bodies of dead detainees are collected by the prison guards each morning, around 9 a.m.”

Syria has secretly executed thousands of political prisoners, rights group says

And an excerpt from Amnesty International's site:

"Not one of the detainees condemned to hang at Saydnaya Prison is given anything that resembles an actual trial. Before they are hanged, victims are put through a perfunctory, one- or two-minute procedure at a so-called “Military Field Court”. These proceedings are so summary and arbitrary that they don’t even constitute a judicial process. The convictions issued by this so-called court are based on false confessions extracted from detainees under torture. Detainees are not allowed access to a lawyer or given an opportunity to defend themselves - most have been subjected to enforced disappearance, held in secret and cut off from the outside world. Those who are condemned to death do not find out about their sentences until minutes before they are hanged. One former judge from told Amnesty that the “court” operates outside the rules of the Syrian legal system:

“The judge will ask the name of the detainee and whether he committed the crime. Whether the answer is yes or no, he will be convicted … This court has no relation with the rule of law. This is not a court.”

Syria: 13,000 secretly hanged in Saydnaya military prison - shocking new report

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

Syrian regime forces have executed the Syrian paediatrician Mahmoud Satu after he was indicted for treating and feeding the children of Aleppo when its eastern districts were controlled by the opposition, the Jordanian Assabeel newspaper reported yesterday.

...local sources in Aleppo said that Satu and another Syrian resident called Ahmed Assad were executed two months after they were arrested.

...According to Al-Araby Al-Jadeed, Satu wrote on his Facebook page before he was arrested: “What is going on in Aleppo is heart-breaking and a savage and barbaric act which is not being done except by a dog dealing with pigs. He [Al-Assad] forgets that God is watching.”

Syria regime executes paediatrician for treating Aleppo children

May God accept him and the others as martyrs:

 

[Paul Yohannan]

Speaking of martyrs, let us consider how the terrorism in Syria has reduced the country's Christian population by 66%.

The Syrian "civil war" is really just a genocide against religious minorities, like Christians and Yazidis.

 

[Orthodoxjay1]

Speaking of martyrs, let us consider how the terrorism in Syria has reduced the country's Christian population by 66%.

The Syrian "civil war" is really just a genocide against religious minorities, like Christians and Yazidis.

yes, what has happened in Syria is a Genocide, a 1/3rd of the alawite population has been either killed or wounded, the Christian population has been reduced by 66% , and the yazidis has been decimated beyond belief. Let's not forget these so called "freedom Fighters" John McCain, the Obama administration, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Qatar backed where the ones screaming "Alawites to the grave, Christians to Beirut", how that Arab Spring working out now?

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

Speaking of martyrs, let us consider how the terrorism in Syria has reduced the country's Christian population by 66%.

The Syrian "civil war" is really just a genocide against religious minorities, like Christians and Yazidis.

yes, what has happened in Syria is a Genocide, a 1/3rd of the alawite population has been either killed or wounded, the Christian population has been reduced by 66% , and the yazidis has been decimated beyond belief. Let's not forget these so called "freedom Fighters" John McCain, the Obama administration, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Qatar backed where the ones screaming "Alawites to the grave, Christians to Beirut", how that Arab Spring working out now?

Flabbergasting that even when some Christians are taking the side of the genocidal oppressor in Syria and helping to oppress the majority of the population, some Christians still cry about a genocide against themselves. Despite the mountain of evidence that mainly Sunnis have been targeted deliberately and Christians largely have not.

Like, I get it. You want to be the persecuted ones desperately. So go on. Offer to take the Sunnis' place in Syria and scream to the world that you're going through a genocide. But until then, please tell us who the majority of the non-combatants dead are:

Of the (at least) "56 major massacres displaying obvious sectarian or ethnic cleansing traits......49 were carried out by Syrian government forces or local and foreign militia allies of President Bashar al-Assad."

A Damning Indictment of Syrian President Assad’s Systematic Massacres

 

[Paul Yohannan]

and helping to oppress the majority of the population,

The majority of the population has increased in their majority over Christians by an alarming degree. The Christian population is now 33% of what it used to be. There is simply no basis for complaining of a genocide against Sunnis.

 

[Paul Yohannan]

Offer to take the Sunnis' place in Syria and scream to the world that you're going through a genocide.

We are. 2/3rds of Christians in Syria in 2010 have either been killed or exiled.

 

[Orthodoxjay1]

Flabbergasting that even when some Christians are taking the side of the genocidal oppressor in Syria and helping to oppress the majority of the population, some Christians still cry about a genocide against themselves. Despite the mountain of evidence that mainly Sunnis have been targeted deliberately and Christians largely have not.

Like, I get it. You want to be the persecuted ones desperately. So go on. Offer to take the Sunnis' place in Syria and scream to the world that you're going through a genocide. But until then, please tell us who the majority of the non-combatants dead are:

Of the (at least) "56 major massacres displaying obvious sectarian or ethnic cleansing traits......49 were carried out by Syrian government forces or local and foreign militia allies of President Bashar al-Assad."

A Damning Indictment of Syrian President Assad’s Systematic Massacres

Sorry but it's those in Sunni community that are the headchoppers, and the ones trafficking in kidnapped Assyrian women, it the Sunni Muslims who turn on their Christian neighbors when the ISIS folks come rolling into town, it's the Alawites who lost a 1/3rd of population either to injuries or being killed, it the 66% of Christians who been emptied from Syria, it the yazdis who had acts of genocide committed against them, recognized as acts of Genocide committed by Sunni rebels. It the Sunnis who scream "Christians to Beirut, alawites to the grave", it mostly Sunnis all over the worldwho act out in jihadist terrorism, 90% of terrorists are Sunnis. Hamas = Sunnis, Al Qaeda = Sunnis, Muslim Brotherhood = Sunnis, Taliban =Sunnis, ISIS = Sunnis, Abu Sayaff = Sunnis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad = Sunnis, Book Harm = Sunnis. Sorry, most Sunni Muslims are probably great folks, however those are the facts, many of them are responsible for acts of Genocide, and jihadist terrorism.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

It's been 4 years since the revolution started with at least 220,000 dead and half the population displaced. This little documentary by Al-Jazeera, which dedicated the month of March to talking more about Syria since it's the 4-year anniversary of the genocide, is not graphic but it is very heart-wrenching. Most of the stories here are tragic, but Farid's was particularly devastating to me. Poor baby:

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153264364398690

They are a little late, although I would like to think that is because people have been diligent exposing these things even despite heavy labelling and dismissal from the public.

But, everything is still going according to a plan put in place a while ago.

And, cross reference which "rogue" nations had central banks before, then after they were "liberated" by freedom.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

The majority of the population has increased in their majority over Christians by an alarming degree. The Christian population is now 33% of what it used to be. There is simply no basis for complaining of a genocide against Sunnis.

We are. 2/3rds of Christians in Syria in 2010 have either been killed or exiled.

I've asked you this before and I didn't get a response: .....Yeah, so tell me how many of the (at least) 200k non-combatants dead in Syria are non-Sunnis.

If the Christians in Syria were receiving a fraction of the same treatment as the Sunnis there and their non-combatants were being deliberately slaughtered like the Sunnis are, the whole Western world would've risen up and demanded that this atrocity be over 6 years ago. But nah. It's just Sunni lives so it doesn't matter....actually, not only do they not matter, but why not go ahead and demonize them as well and try to portray their genocidal, sectarian slaughterers as the best option.

Sorry but it's those in Sunni community that are the headchoppers, and the ones trafficking in kidnapped Assyrian women, it the Sunni Muslims who turn on their Christian neighbors when the ISIS folks come rolling into town, it's the Alawites who lost a 1/3rd of population either to injuries or being killed, it the 66% of Christians who been emptied from Syria, it the yazdis who had acts of genocide committed against them, recognized as acts of Genocide committed by Sunni rebels. It the Sunnis who scream "Christians to Beirut, alawites to the grave", it mostly Sunnis all over the worldwho act out in jihadist terrorism, 90% of terrorists are Sunnis. Hamas = Sunnis, Al Qaeda = Sunnis, Muslim Brotherhood = Sunnis, Taliban =Sunnis, ISIS = Sunnis, Abu Sayaff = Sunnis, Palestinian Islamic Jihad = Sunnis, Book Harm = Sunnis. Sorry, most Sunni Muslims are probably great folks, however those are the facts, many of them are responsible for acts of Genocide, and jihadist terrorism.

You should be sorry since it is the Sunnis who have been deliberately targeted for slaughter, torture, starvation, imprisonment, etc. as the following infographics show (and I completely disagree with the lumping of Fatah ash-Sham with ISIS. It's unfair to do that to them since if they're shown separately, they usually have figures lower than the YPG & co and they're a significant fighting force):

They are a little late, although I would like to think that is because people have been diligent exposing these things even despite heavy labelling and dismissal from the public.

But, everything is still going according to a plan put in place a while ago.

And, cross reference which "rogue" nations had central banks before, then after they were "liberated" by freedom.

I've said before in response to that video: They did a really poor job of "invading" Syria. Assad gave them every reason to with all of his atrocities, but they found every excuse to not go in to topple him. The only one the US has intentionally targeted besides ISIS is the opposition. It has not once deliberately attacked Assad or its allies.

 

[Ygrene Imref]

I've asked you this before and I didn't get a response: .....Yeah, so tell me how many of the (at least) 200k non-combatants dead in Syria are non-Sunnis.

If the Christians in Syria were receiving a fraction of the same treatment as the Sunnis there and their non-combatants were being deliberately slaughtered like the Sunnis are, the whole Western world would've risen up and demanded that this atrocity be over 6 years ago. But nah. It's just Sunni lives so it doesn't matter....actually, not only do they not matter, but why not go ahead and demonize them as well and try to portray their genocidal, sectarian slaughterers as the best option.



You should be sorry since it is the Sunnis who have been deliberately targeted for slaughter, torture, starvation, imprisonment, etc. as the following infographics show (and I completely disagree with the lumping of Fatah ash-Sham with ISIS. It's unfair to do that to them since if they're shown separately, they usually have figures lower than the YPG & co and they're a significant fighting force):

I've said before in response to that video: They did a really poor job of "invading" Syria. Assad gave them every reason to with all of his atrocities, but they found every excuse to not go in to topple him. The only one the US has intentionally targeted besides ISIS is the opposition. It has not once deliberately attacked Assad or its allies.

That is because the US didn't expect that Russia (and even China, and other SCO nations) would "silently" (relative to public awareness) oppose an encroaching of the West into those Eastern longitudes.

If it was the time to go hot with [nuclear] war with the East, the US would not have held back. The reason it "failed," is that the US AND West is not going to risk nuclear war right now - since the fruition of overall plan has not been reached yet.

The "back channels" of war are hot right now. We are all technically in WWIII, it just isn't on global display.

WHEN it is time for the war to go extremely hot, you can be sure that those countries US is "gingerly and delicately" oppressing will be struck with an iron rod. Then, the US will fall. I wouldn't even be surprised if the thing that makes the US enter war is a false flag blamed on muslims.

There is certainly enough hate for them, and a strong belief that a handful of them could outsmart all of the US intelligence agencies to cause an attack.


The point of this upcoming war is to completely destroy the morale of people, and to destroy all religions - including atheism - and replacing it.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

That is because the US didn't expect that Russia (and even China, and other SCO nations) would "silently" (relative to public awareness) oppose an encroaching of the West into those Eastern longitudes.

If it was the time to go hot with [nuclear] war with the East, the US would not have held back. The reason it "failed," is that the US AND West is not going to risk nuclear war right now - since the fruition of overall plan has not been reached yet.

The "back channels" of war are hot right now. We are all technically in WWIII, it just isn't on global display.

WHEN it is time for the war to go extremely hot, you can be sure that those countries US is "gingerly and delicately" oppressing will be struck with an iron rod. Then, the US will fall. I wouldn't even be surprised if the thing that makes the US enter war is a false flag blamed on muslims.

There is certainly enough hate for them, and a strong belief that a handful of them could outsmart all of the US intelligence agencies to cause an attack.


The point of this upcoming war is to completely destroy the morale of people, and to destroy all religions - including atheism - and replacing it.

Russia's opposition to US actions didn't stop the US and others from putting sanctions on Russia over Ukraine. Yet when Assad used chemical weapons (likely sarin) in 2013, Obama used the first available opportunity to give Assad an out. Russia scrambled to provide an alternative to signatories of the Genocide Convention from following through on it by saying Assad would give up his chemical weapons (4 years later, he still uses chemicals on the people) and Obama took them up on that offer. Russia was not threatening the US but the US gave way to Russia's immorality.

The fact of the matter is, Obama just didn't want to act on Syria against Assad. To do so would jeopardize the Iran deal and disrupt the status quo. It seems as though many in the west are content having dictators and/or genocidal, sectarian tyrants rule Muslim countries so long as anyone even remotely a religious, non-token, non-mouthpiece Sunni doesn't get into an leadership position. It doesn't matter how just they are and how much they avoid killing or torturing non-combatants; if they're religious Sunnis, a genocide against that group is preferable to them gaining power.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Russia's opposition to US actions didn't stop the US and others from putting sanctions on Russia over Ukraine. Yet when Assad used chemical weapons (likely sarin) in 2013, Obama used the first available opportunity to give Assad an out. Russia scrambled to provide an alternative to signatories of the Genocide Convention from following through on it by saying Assad would give up his chemical weapons (4 years later, he still uses chemicals on the people) and Obama took them up on that offer. Russia was not threatening the US but the US gave way to Russia's immorality.

The fact of the matter is, Obama just didn't want to act on Syria against Assad. To do so would jeopardize the Iran deal and disrupt the status quo. It seems as though many in the west are content having dictators and/or genocidal, sectarian tyrants rule Muslim countries so long as anyone even remotely a religious, non-token, non-mouthpiece Sunni doesn't get into an leadership position. It doesn't matter how just they are and how much they avoid killing or torturing non-combatants; if they're religious Sunnis, a genocide against that group is preferable to them gaining power.

One would think these religious Sunnis would get the point that the entire world is against them because they don't automatically flip out on those who do kill and torture non-combatants -which should be an automatic reaction. Instead, they all mingle together, and everyone knows it.

The world has had enough of these human shields working as full time martyrs for terrorists. They're working interdependently. That's the real reason why nobody reacts or really cares.

...but I know, I know... It's everyone elses fault. Assad, Russia, Obama -everyone but ISIS and their willful human sheilds.

 

[Landon Caeli]

You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor... You will have war.

Winston Churchill

 

[Landon Caeli]

They are a little late, although I would like to think that is because people have been diligent exposing these things even despite heavy labelling and dismissal from the public.

But, everything is still going according to a plan put in place a while ago.

And, cross reference which "rogue" nations had central banks before, then after they were "liberated" by freedom.

So where do you say the Jews stand on this? Are they involved in this central banking scandal you seem to be suggesting..? Just curious...

 

[Landon Caeli]

That is because the US didn't expect that Russia (and even China, and other SCO nations) would "silently" (relative to public awareness) oppose an encroaching of the West into those Eastern longitudes.

If it was the time to go hot with [nuclear] war with the East, the US would not have held back. The reason it "failed," is that the US AND West is not going to risk nuclear war right now - since the fruition of overall plan has not been reached yet.

The "back channels" of war are hot right now. We are all technically in WWIII, it just isn't on global display.

WHEN it is time for the war to go extremely hot, you can be sure that those countries US is "gingerly and delicately" oppressing will be struck with an iron rod. Then, the US will fall. I wouldn't even be surprised if the thing that makes the US enter war is a false flag blamed on muslims.

There is certainly enough hate for them, and a strong belief that a handful of them could outsmart all of the US intelligence agencies to cause an attack.


The point of this upcoming war is to completely destroy the morale of people, and to destroy all religions - including atheism - and replacing it.

Sounds like a conspiracy theory. Who's behind it?

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

One would think these religious Sunnis would get the point that the entire world is against them because they don't automatically flip out on those who do kill and torture non-combatants -which should be an automatic reaction. Instead, they all mingle together, and everyone knows it.

I mean, that's actually what they're doing in fighting Assad. Or didn't you get the memo that Assad and allies have been the biggest killers and torturers (and starvers and imprisoners) of non-combatants in Syria? They're worse than ISIS in each of those ways.

But yeah, the Assadists all mingle together and everyone knows it. And obviously they're not going to flip out on those they support even though they're condoning/ignoring a genocide. Both the far right and the far left finally unite!

...but I know, I know... It's everyone elses fault. Assad, Russia, Obama -everyone but ISIS and their willful human sheilds.

You really have no idea what you're talking about. There are 25 pages on this thread, you know. The world is your oyster.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I mean, that's actually what they're doing in fighting Assad. Or didn't you get the memo that Assad and allies have been the biggest killers and torturers (and starvers and imprisoners) of non-combatants in Syria? They're worse than ISIS in each of those ways.

But yeah, the Assadists all mingle together and everyone knows it. And obviously they're not going to flip out on those they support even though they're condoning/ignoring a genocide. Both the far right and the far left finally unite!



You really have no idea what you're talking about. There are 25 pages on this thread, you know. The world is your oyster.

Tu Quoque... Irrelevant to my post.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

Tu Quoque... Irrelevant to my post.

No, it directly addresses it because the figures support my claims, not yours.

 

[LoveBeingAMuslimah]

The United Nations has accused the Syrian government of deliberately attacking an aid convoy near Aleppo last September, and labeled a forced evacuation of opposition-held parts of the east of the city as a “war crime”.

In a report covering the capture of Aleppo by forces supporting the Syrian regime, the UN also accused Damascus of repeatedly using chemical weapons and cluster munitions, and systematically destroying hospitals.

Forced evacuation of east Aleppo was war crime, says UN

Ya don't say! Now what is going to be done about it? For most of the world - turning a blind eye to or even supporting the genocide, ethnic cleansing, mass torture, imprisonment, and deathly sieges by Assad's regime and its allies.